Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad?

I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well....

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Thank you. I will listen to that!

Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling".

All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true.

However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean.

And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.)

Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon.

Okay, perhaps I used the "social justice warrior" thing wrong--I can see that.
My question is actually bigger than that. I should have simply said, "If there are actual black spells in the books, could they have had an impact on the generation all reading the books?"

No and no. JK Rowling doesn't seem to know enough knowledge about metaphysical philosophy or any actual magical systems to even make a compelling read for those who have. There was more accuracy in the lore of "Supernatural" then any of the harry potter books.

The only thing it programmed it's readers to do was act like idiots mimicking magic without ever actually reading any books about it.

Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 08/13/2022 01:57 AM

i dont think your question IS the question you typed..

are you asking if the books were suspiciously popular?
or are you actually asking if i can fly stuff to my hand when i say "accio stuff"?

if the latter.. consider that anyone reading the book outloud would have cast a spell!

o wait.. WERE ALL MUGGLES

so for a moment assume that they are ALL ACTUALLY REAL...

we would never know since we are muggles with no wands?

i mean if the magic in HP is real then we gotta take the context with also right?

Hey, thank you for your thoughts on this. I had heard that they were real spells and it bothered me--left me wondering about influence.

one of my favorite spin-off or "head-canon" ideas from the HP fans on the 'net is that it is all real, AND JKR is Rita Skeeter in exile.
the other wizards finally kicked her out to muggle lands but she continues to trash-talk them.
the theory goes on to claim other ficticious characters as wizards in exile such as Dr Doolittle, and Willy Wonka

LOL - good stuff!
On the serious side though, when I was young, I was exposed to some negative spiritual things that I now know I would stay away from and avoid. As a youngster, I did not realize the impact of such things. But I learned. Part of the consequence of these experiences has been to be very suspicious/avoid such activities and ideas.

That is where part of my concern comes from.

Nothing in those movies were real....calm yer farm.

Well, I know the movies aren't real, but I guess I am referring to rituals like they do at the Superbowl halftime shows--things like that--where they put in subliminal messages

Those spells aren't real. Real spells require more than a waving stick and words. Offerings and actions are needed to perform inter dimensional activity. This is me by the way, I logged out to remain in the background.

Thank you!!!!! I appreciate the feedback.

Last Edited by wkk on 08/13/2022 02:24 AM

Every form of "mass" media creates it's own reality through the reader or viewer.

You would have to be completely off the grid (including off of this forum) to be rid of "spells"

See through it...move through it.

You are on the right track.

Never veer left.

Y'know, it's all fun and entertaining, but it is also sensationalizing and making us all comfortable with the mainstreaming of witchcraft. No matter how you slice it, that shit is an abomination against God, period. Know also, that each time you practice that crap you give up a little bit of your eternal soul.

I think that you are right when you mention that it did normalize things. There has been a lot of mainstreaming of witchcraft type ideas on television. You bring up an interesting point.

Last Edited by wkk on 08/13/2022 02:46 AM

ok cool!
in that case the books seem innocaent enough, no ouja board stuff goin on, seems to be mere fiction which as another poster pointed out, has no basis in "real" occultism

I appreciate all the replies and ideas. Lots to think about and a short video to watch.

Thanks to all!

I ALWAYS avoided that stuff, and kept my kids away from it. Not all "fun and games", in the end...

Certainly we are divided into two societies, and the "muggles" are in the majority. They cannot conceive of anything outside of their own world. If they do actually have a sudden insight or a sudden experience which indicates that there is whole other world, they might call this "magic", whereas it will actually be someone on a higher spiritual level exercising their (higher) spiritual powers.

The Harry Potter stories started off quite innocently - a sort of boarding school prank scenario - but it became more "dark" and disturbing as time went on, with a lot of violence. This might be seen as a method of gradual ensnarement.

Yes, I always discouraged it too. I just didn't know about the ultimate impact--

Books can have lots of influence.

Been a long time since I read any of those books - I read one or two. They are not full spells, they are what I would call "introductory spells" to get kids into the mindset of casting spells. The mindset is the most important thing, you can always learn the actual mechanics, words, materials, etc, later on. It's about conditioning people to accept this kind of thinking.

You might just call it magickal thinking in general, which is about not handling reality as it is, but thinking you can change reality through your emotions/actions and we can see by that that Harry Potter has had a tremendous negative influence on the last 2 generations of young people. There is magick, which is real and can be used, and there is magickal thinking, which is also real but very unhealthy as it's based largely on imagination and thinking that wishing makes it so.

The spells had some Latin. I don't know it in depth, so can not say they mean anything. The use of ceremony was pretty good. Circles, groups, candles...stuff like that. I think it was all close enough to be passable to anyone like me but anyone who knows stuff in depth would probably say, "no." But, just my educated guess.

I was a music teacher at the time and earned extra money teaching a computer web design class through a college, for children. I was thrown into the job the camp's first year and it was connected to an International Web Design Contest, so I decided to lead the children into a site about the second Harry Potter book. I think we named the site "Harry Potter Revealed."

I had two days to read the first book before the we had our first class. I absolutely fell in love with the book (and every book after.) The characters, the vivid settings and construction of the substories were just fabulous. We all met up, and I taught them a system for creating websites I developed called "Slaying the Invisible Dragon."

This was a live at home, come to the college daily, computer camp. We met up at 9pm at Barnes and Noble for the 12:00am release of book two. We created groups and developed our pages. We composed a song. We named the site and they learned about static domains, buying a domain name and how to populate meta tags and submitting to search engines.

The cool thing about the camp was the kids, after they created the content on paper, had to create everything. We taught them the old, unfettered programs, which got destroyed over the years with copyright stuff:, Itunes, Photoshop, Amadeus, Flash, and Premiere. We used Dreamweaver, since we were on Macs. That first year was pretty basic, but still complex for 8-13 year olds in 2002. As they returned year after year, the sites were prettying incredible. That first year, they were one of the top prize winners. One year, animated buttons and a whole from page in Flash, like Ellen DeGeneres' was back in 2003.

In a search, our page was always first when doing the search "Harry Potter Revealed." I can't find the pages anywhere, anymore. A Ha! In using the Donor name, ThinkQuest, and the WayBack Machine, I found it! Not formatted well anymore and no audio files : (

add the

http s:// to the next part

web.nopeorg/web/20020718095321/ [link to harrypotterrevealed.com]

Last Edited by Fhre A'an on 08/13/2022 03:30 AM

This is good information. You have given me insight into the question or into the question I was trying to ask (but did not phrase well!) Thank you.

The killing curse: Avada Kedavra
(a-VAH-dah ke-DAH-vra)
A made up magician word: Abracadabra
(ab·ra·ca·dab·ra)
That's the level of writing JK did here. There is no magic behind it.

I am sure that your students remember all you did!

And yet, your reply brings me back to the original question. While I loved "Lord of the Rings"/fantasy type books, I steered away from Harry Potter because of concern about opening doors/etc.

Last Edited by wkk on 08/13/2022 05:26 AM

Never saw harry potter

On topic, they are slowly conditioning a new world. Thats part of what harry potter films are about, and all magic.

They are slowly conditioning humans to give up on christianity and effectively move to a 1 world religion based on freemasonry.

On whether harry potter is based on real things. Some so, some not.

The hollywood people use this stuff to throw out real stuff based with unreal stuff, knowing most people will have no idea whats real and not.

Good job most people have no idea how any of this stuff works, and its very difficult to be outside of the group that know, to work out for yourself stuff.

Like i said they are slowly conditioning people to move to a 1 world religion based on freemasonry, and thats why they are bringing out such movies as harry potter.

Its also why they do not want discipline in kids, and they want really no laws in future.

I would not want to live in the world they envision.

I am glad i was born roman catholic, and it gave us a foundation in life, of decency. Most people do not like it, but i do.

That world is gone, and who knows what the real results will be.

But even though i never saw harry potter, these films and tv are slowly teaching people to the stuff behind the scenes.

Probably star wars was first to really start this, as a film.

Star wars shows the religious beliefs of ptb behind the scenes, that all religions are off shoots off.

I have no idea what harry potter shows, as i have never seen it, as when your a proper gang stalking person, you should never watch the media. You have no idea how they are playing with your life, and what they are grooming you for, lol

They are not grooming me for anything they want. They can use others.

They sure spend alot of time and effort grooming people, and who knows for what?

lol