Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83980284 United States 08/13/2022 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well.... Quoting: wkk Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling". All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true. However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean. And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.) Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon. Okay, perhaps I used the "social justice warrior" thing wrong--I can see that. My question is actually bigger than that. I should have simply said, "If there are actual black spells in the books, could they have had an impact on the generation all reading the books?" It’s all about manifestation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84007247 Australia 08/13/2022 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Years ago, when Harry Potter came out, it was the strangest thing ever. You could walk into the classrooms and all of the kids loved the books. Now, this can happen with amazing books, but they really did take the generation by a storm. Quoting: wkk Then I heard that the spells in the book might be real??? Lifted from sources or like when they do rituals of the Superbowl halftime show where they put in subliminal messages, etc??? So, I have to wonder--were the spells that were used in Harry Potter books part of the agenda? Do they contribute to some of the brainwashing that we see in the generation that is young adults at this time? Just asking. Every form of "mass" media creates it's own reality through the reader or viewer. You would have to be completely off the grid (including off of this forum) to be rid of "spells" See through it...move through it. You are on the right track. Never veer left. This. It's all subjective. How it is seen by different people. In a negative context, or a positive context. I read the first book. I found it delightful. Certainly more uplifting than most of Grimm's Faery Tales. Lots of kids learned to read because of it. That's a kind of magic spell, don't you think? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72134020 United States 08/13/2022 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably. Yup. I'm in my 30s now but I remember telling our teacher my folks wouldn't let me so I had to read some backshelf novel about the midwest in the back of the room. Come to think of it.. I'm one of the few who actually made something of myself. Interesting premise OP and entirely possible. 5* And really? Written by JK ROFL. Seriously? They're not even trying anymore. |
PetrovBG
User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 08/13/2022 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The killing curse: Avada Kedavra Quoting: Golbez (a-VAH-dah ke-DAH-vra) A made up magician word: Abracadabra (ab·ra·ca·dab·ra) That's the level of writing JK did here. There is no magic behind it. Well, what if Abracadabra isn't random either? Maybe both Abracadabra and Avada Kedavra are close, but not exact matches of (parts of) real spells. |
hankie
Everything User ID: 80628258 United States 08/13/2022 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is sort of putting a spell on you, propaganda works the same way also sort of hypnosis. It has been around for 5,000 years but it was used in France during the war after they figured out how to use it differently, they didn't name it as this but they were playing with this other before the event with a British spy had something done to him about some putting a metal, I think the cap on him and he lost all his memories after this until he was headed home, he remembered nothing about what they did to him, sound just like hypnosis. [link to hypnosis.edu (secure)] These are kind of strange type spells that do to people a similar thing to hypnosis even reading material can be used in the way it is printed to catch your eye and make it the most important part to read and stick in your brain, which can also change the meaning of the full articles. So, this is like putting a spell on you. Witchcraft is not good. Any type of witchcraft or sorcery. Moses cautioned the children of Israel: When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable way of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive those nations before you. You must be blameless before the Lord your God. The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the Lord has not permitted you to do so. Deuteronomy 18:9-14 They also called Jezebel a witch because of her practice which was having sacrifices to her god for Baal, she had male and female prostitutes who were for her god's temple, this was practiced before the flood. She was having Ahab murder the prophets. You ask God not the dead, this is what happen when Saul messed up bad, those witches called up Samuel from his rest and Saul didn't like the message. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
Peter Quill
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wkk
(OP) User ID: 58117152 United States 08/13/2022 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72134020 Yup. I'm in my 30s now but I remember telling our teacher my folks wouldn't let me so I had to read some backshelf novel about the midwest in the back of the room. Come to think of it.. I'm one of the few who actually made something of myself. Interesting premise OP and entirely possible. 5* And really? Written by JK ROFL. Seriously? They're not even trying anymore. Thank you!!! wkk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81030508 Spain 08/13/2022 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The significance of the author's pseudonym seems to go right over peoples' heads. JK Rowling = KRowling = Crowley (Most on this sight know, but if you don't know who Alestair Crowley was you should look him up) |
wkk
(OP) User ID: 58117152 United States 08/13/2022 04:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is sort of putting a spell on you, propaganda works the same way also sort of hypnosis. It has been around for 5,000 years but it was used in France during the war after they figured out how to use it differently, they didn't name it as this but they were playing with this other before the event with a British spy had something done to him about some putting a metal, I think the cap on him and he lost all his memories after this until he was headed home, he remembered nothing about what they did to him, sound just like hypnosis. Quoting: hankie [link to hypnosis.edu (secure)] These are kind of strange type spells that do to people a similar thing to hypnosis even reading material can be used in the way it is printed to catch your eye and make it the most important part to read and stick in your brain, which can also change the meaning of the full articles. So, this is like putting a spell on you. Witchcraft is not good. Any type of witchcraft or sorcery. Moses cautioned the children of Israel: When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable way of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive those nations before you. You must be blameless before the Lord your God. The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the Lord has not permitted you to do so. Deuteronomy 18:9-14 They also called Jezebel a witch because of her practice which was having sacrifices to her god for Baal, she had male and female prostitutes who were for her god's temple, this was practiced before the flood. She was having Ahab murder the prophets. You ask God not the dead, this is what happen when Saul messed up bad, those witches called up Samuel from his rest and Saul didn't like the message. When I was young, I was exposed to bits and pieces of the things in your post--AND I learned about the negative consequences of those things. I also learned to turn away and not look back--even if i was curious. Because of my experiences, I have had real questions about the impact of the Harry Potter books--even though so many seem to love them. wkk |
wkk
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Srsbizns
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wkk
(OP) User ID: 58117152 United States 08/13/2022 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "J.K. Rowling is an Illuminati Monarch slave. She is an actress who has hardly put pen to paper regarding the Harry Potter books. The original author of the first four books hasn't seen a penny from it. Rowling was only ever a puppet actress to dupe the media, and wasn't allowed to keep 99% of the money generated from this massive industry. The book CELEBRITY CAT was used to program Rowling as the 'actress author' of Harry Potter. I was backstage at the Templar Castle at the time, as they led her on stage to be humiliated. She was only wearing a 'cat collar' with a bell. I didn't see what they actually did to her, on stage. She was also programmed as a PUFFIN because the graduates thought she looked like one. The real author of Harry Potter created the hellish prison 'Azkaban', including ‘the dementors’, after horrific OIL CULT mind control programming. It was based on her experience in Azerbaijan. Another note, Rowling was also present at the Templar rite in which Madeleine McCann died - hence her offer of a reward in public, was all the more sickening." Quoting: Srsbizns Okay, this really brings up some questions--both about JK and the original author. A poster above wrote that JK Rowling's name has hidden negative significance and is linked to Crowley. How about the original author? Was she also linked to negative rituals, etc? There are so many questions generated by your post. Last Edited by wkk on 08/13/2022 05:09 AM wkk |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81633991 Nigeria 08/13/2022 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "spells" are pure pussy imagination. Quoting: Peter Quill The real Mystery Schools are the OTO and The Golden Dawn. But we don't advertise. No, they throw alot of real stuff out there, as they know people will not know whats real or not. They mix it with loads of rubbish too. Plus humans are being conditioned for a new world, and new religion, based on freemasonry, ie witchcraft |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79780865 Canada 08/13/2022 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well.... Quoting: wkk Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling". All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true. However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean. And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.) Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon. A poster with a brain. |
^Mike
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KuvaszLove
User ID: 81002200 United States 08/13/2022 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did read in a separate book that THE WAY Harry Potter movie was showing how to make a spell was real. As example when Hermaine keeps trying to get it right and then she does. This book I was reading said it can take years and years to get a calling of or a spell perfectly correct to then make it work. It was actually spooky stuff and I threw the book away; it was a book about Harry Potter and other historical magic. It was actually quite interesting in the beginning as it explained how in Pre- Christian life magic and non magic were not separate societies, they all lived together and one could go and get a herb cocktail or spell like we go get a burger. You could go to a social gathering and it was a mixture of all types including wizards and pagan worshippers but When Christianity came it changed all that and a clear division was made and certain folks were pushed to one side of town. The best thing I remember was it saying that no harm can come to you unless you call it and it could take years to learn that. It is a real art. |
grannyB
User ID: 15969040 United States 08/13/2022 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "spells" are pure pussy imagination. Quoting: Peter Quill The real Mystery Schools are the OTO and The Golden Dawn. But we don't advertise. No, they throw alot of real stuff out there, as they know people will not know whats real or not. They mix it with loads of rubbish too. Plus humans are being conditioned for a new world, and new religion, based on freemasonry, ie witchcraft Truth!!! |
grannyB
User ID: 15969040 United States 08/13/2022 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did read in a separate book that THE WAY Harry Potter movie was showing how to make a spell was real. As example when Hermaine keeps trying to get it right and then she does. This book I was reading said it can take years and years to get a calling of or a spell perfectly correct to then make it work. It was actually spooky stuff and I threw the book away; it was a book about Harry Potter and other historical magic. It was actually quite interesting in the beginning as it explained how in Pre- Christian life magic and non magic were not separate societies, they all lived together and one could go and get a herb cocktail or spell like we go get a burger. You could go to a social gathering and it was a mixture of all types including wizards and pagan worshippers but When Christianity came it changed all that and a clear division was made and certain folks were pushed to one side of town. The best thing I remember was it saying that no harm can come to you unless you call it and it could take years to learn that. It is a real art. Quoting: KuvaszLove |
grannyB
User ID: 15969040 United States 08/13/2022 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well.... Quoting: wkk Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling". All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true. However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean. And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.) Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon. A poster with a brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84003890 Australia 08/13/2022 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No and no. JK Rowling doesn't seem to know enough knowledge about metaphysical philosophy or any actual magical systems to even make a compelling read for those who have. There was more accuracy in the lore of "Supernatural" then any of the harry potter books. Quoting: themessengernevermatters The only thing it programmed it's readers to do was act like idiots mimicking magic without ever actually reading any books about it. well, smartarse, "JK Rowling" is a pseudonym, means Joke, Rolling on Floor Laughing and she was provided the esoteric arcana from the Creese dynasty down here in tasmania, which is an anagram of i am satan... so, hi soldier. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82230527 United Kingdom 08/13/2022 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y'know, it's all fun and entertaining, but it is also sensationalizing and making us all comfortable with the mainstreaming of witchcraft. No matter how you slice it, that shit is an abomination against God, period. Know also, that each time you practice that crap you give up a little bit of your eternal soul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83914953 Saw quite a few examples of magic in the bible. And quite a few total nutters as well. The 'God told me to do it' excuse for genocide prolly wouldnt wash right now. Hmm, actually they dont seem to need an excuse anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79368767 United States 08/13/2022 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every movie you watch where spells are cast is a spell being cast upon those watching/listening. It's a brilliant strategy for those wishing to cast spells on the greatest number of people possible. Think of how many movies you've seen where spells are cast in a language you don't understand. Those spells are for the unsuspecting audience. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80621339 Australia 08/13/2022 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that the spells were real. If they were and if so many kids were reading them and loving the books; well.... Quoting: wkk Technically, everything - every single thing - that a person says, thinks or writes is a spell. Just think of the word itself: "Spelling". All words and statements have a power far beyond what most people imagine to be true. However, if you're speaking strictly of paganism and/or witchcraft, in particular...No, the spells aren't actually real. At least, not at all in the sense that you mean. And, even if they were, I don't think I've come across any "spells" in the Harry Potter books that would lead to the creation of social justice warriors. (Not that I'm a fan, myself; I just had friends and family members who were.) Social justice warriors were created mostly by continuous propaganda on the part of schools, the entertainment industry, and social media - and many of today's SJWs were too young to have even been part of the Harry Potter phenomenon. It comes down to your 'intent'. People are casting spells and putting a curse on someone more than they realise, Christians included. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80364022 United States 08/13/2022 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, they were real, the demon names were real too. The author got supernatural revelation from real demonic spirits. That explains so much my messed up generation. If you have issues due to that book, look for a good deliverance ministry, there are not many around. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80777938 United States 08/13/2022 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I ALWAYS avoided that stuff, and kept my kids away from it. Not all "fun and games", in the end... Quoting: *SaintIn Yes HP cut quite the path across the church scape of the South in the mid 90s. my kids were little and i was away working most of the time. my kids were reading them, i was out on an oil rig somewhere reading them. i didn't think much about it other than. "That's nice Honey" lol butter beer is better than all the Jack Daniels i seemed to have such an affinity for. Soo many mistakes and misteps that have ricoched down through so many families. What we didn't know then... we dang sure know now |