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Were the spells in Harry Potter books real; if so, did they program the young readers for bad?

 
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Years ago, when Harry Potter came out, it was the strangest thing ever. You could walk into the classrooms and all of the kids loved the books. Now, this can happen with amazing books, but they really did take the generation by a storm.
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Certainly we are divided into two societies, and the "muggles" are in the majority. They cannot conceive of anything outside of their own world. If they do actually have a sudden insight or a sudden experience which indicates that there is whole other world, they might call this "magic", whereas it will actually be someone on a higher spiritual level exercising their (higher) spiritual powers.

The Harry Potter stories started off quite innocently - a sort of boarding school prank scenario - but it became more "dark" and disturbing as time went on, with a lot of violence. This might be seen as a method of gradual ensnarement.



Years ago, when Harry Potter came out, it was the strangest thing ever. You could walk into the classrooms and all of the kids loved the books. Now, this can happen with amazing books, but they really did take the generation by a storm.

Then I heard that the spells in the book might be real??? Lifted from sources or like when they do rituals of the Superbowl halftime show where they put in subliminal messages, etc???

So, I have to wonder--were the spells that were used in Harry Potter books part of the agenda?
Do they contribute to some of the brainwashing that we see in the generation that is young adults at this time?

Just asking.


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They're as real as a molinar or a force choke.
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OP has a good point, I do not trust Potter books either..
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A Gardner with a hair transplant = a hair re-potter!
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they were introduction to spellcraft, concocting poisonous tinctures is the end result. Living death are zombies using various peptide toxins from reptiles, bats, insects etc.

its vileness from the pit, lots of recipes still out there

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make your own labels, poison your schoolteachers, classmates

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you do realize this is exactly the agenda the cabal pushes now

to eat spiders, crickets, worms? next up is cannibalism folks

all of this crap was pre conditioning to make it acceptable
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its called 'dabbling in the occult' for a reason, these were step by step handholding procedure for leading children in it

a to z of drink tampering recipes

do you wonder why a whole generation spit on the fast food?

they learned this behavior in their public skool library

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its not ok to put noxious substances in others food & drink

and just because punk ass kids with crisp prep school accents
wearing capes & riding broomsticks are doing it, still not ok
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"Harry James Potter" born on July 31, 1980

"July 31 is the 212th day of the year (213th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar; 153 days remain until the end of the year."

When 1 = A and 26 = Z

Harry James Potter = 212
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Absolutely they were. How else can you explain the popularity of this inane drivel.
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I was the right age when the first book came out (12 yo). I remember being into sci fi mainly and seeing the long lines when the second book came out at the book stores as I just happened to be there when that night when "Chamber of Secrets" came out and thinking WTF are these kids dressed like this.

FORTUNATELY, my first fantasy book was "The Hobbit." Thank you Lord for protecting me!

Ive read the first 3 books twice when I was 16-17. I enjoyed them but glad the books never had a hold on me at a young age.
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I dont know about the spells in the book but reading the books used to be extremely addicting to my cousin who would buy the books the moment they came out. I was over his house when Order of the Phoenix came out and he read the whole book in like 2 days.

Me personally I could never get past the 4th book and never even finished reading the 4th book (goblet of fire). Something ALWAYS stops me and the spell wears off and I lose interest.
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Honestly the books highlight muggles (the 99%) and witches/wizards (the elite). The wizards live in a separate world just as our elite do and have infighting. Honestly Voldemart won the war IRL.
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Absolutely they were. How else can you explain the popularity of this inane drivel.
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The late 90s was a different time. And a better one.
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And? They had Burger King in the 90s too but you shouldn’t be waxing poetic about that either. Harry Potter is GARBAGE. You’d be better off reading the back of a cereal box.
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No and no. JK Rowling doesn't seem to know enough knowledge about metaphysical philosophy or any actual magical systems to even make a compelling read for those who have. There was more accuracy in the lore of "Supernatural" then any of the harry potter books.

The only thing it programmed it's readers to do was act like idiots mimicking magic without ever actually reading any books about it.
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Yes, the spells are real.

Every movie you watch where spells are cast is a spell being cast upon those watching/listening.

It's a brilliant strategy for those wishing to cast spells on the greatest number of people possible.

Think of how many movies you've seen where spells are cast in a language you don't understand. Those spells are for the unsuspecting audience.
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I agree that this is frequently true which is why I won't watch movies or TV shows that feature rituals or spells - because they may actually have an effect on ME or whoever is watching.
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Do you honestly think this woman became the best selling author in HISTORY by being an outsider; and interloper?

Do you really think they would have allowed her to outsell THE BIBLE? The Bible was the best selling book until Harry Potter FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

She has to be a Supreme Witch, has to be. And more.
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and do you honestly believe it wasn't written by a team that works at MARVEL? the yelling newspaper git in spiderman 1 with toby mcgwire wrote most of it.
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I would assume you are both right. No chance the official story is correct, an outsider would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be promoted to this level of success.

The author (or team?) behind the books is absolutely part of "the club".

But the books are actually pretty good. I've read all seven, and they're well written, with oodles of interesting characters and an engaging story.

My opinion, is that Harry Potter is "soft disclosure". Tell the truth in the form of fiction, for the purpose of hiding it.

The basic setting in Harry Potter, is that there exists a mundane world for normal people, and a hidden parallel world for the secret elites that run everything from behind the scenes, and these elites are engaging in occult practices. We outsiders are the "muggles" who go about our little lives, unaware of what's really going on. We think the prime minister is in power, but in Harry Potter we actually see a "wizard" entering his office and giving him orders.

The real world is exactly like that. But if you were to tell people that the real world prime minister answers to an unelected "handler" from a secret occult mystical sect, they will laugh at you and say you must have been watching too much Harry Potter.

And that's the reason they prompted this IMO. To better hide in plain sight.
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^^^THIS^^^


This is brilliant and I really think you nailed it. That IS how the world works. There are 2 separate worlds interacting with each other. The Muggle one, which is us and we think we control things and it's the only one, but there's the secret Wizard world of the occult that interacts with us and controls us via their use of the occult. Or at least their belief in the occult (note CULT in the word OCCULT) in their minds elevates them above us. What they really have is the advantage of secrecy and implausibility - people can't believe that a secret world of controllers could exist like this possibly for hundreds - maybe thousands - of years. But it obviously does, if we are honest, we see the evidence frequently and now it is becoming ever more open in their designs for Global power and control.
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Do you honestly think this woman became the best selling author in HISTORY by being an outsider; and interloper?

Do you really think they would have allowed her to outsell THE BIBLE? The Bible was the best selling book until Harry Potter FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

She has to be a Supreme Witch, has to be. And more.
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and do you honestly believe it wasn't written by a team that works at MARVEL? the yelling newspaper git in spiderman 1 with toby mcgwire wrote most of it.
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I would assume you are both right. No chance the official story is correct, an outsider would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be promoted to this level of success.

The author (or team?) behind the books is absolutely part of "the club".

But the books are actually pretty good. I've read all seven, and they're well written, with oodles of interesting characters and an engaging story.

My opinion, is that Harry Potter is "soft disclosure". Tell the truth in the form of fiction, for the purpose of hiding it.

The basic setting in Harry Potter, is that there exists a mundane world for normal people, and a hidden parallel world for the secret elites that run everything from behind the scenes, and these elites are engaging in occult practices. We outsiders are the "muggles" who go about our little lives, unaware of what's really going on. We think the prime minister is in power, but in Harry Potter we actually see a "wizard" entering his office and giving him orders.

The real world is exactly like that. But if you were to tell people that the real world prime minister answers to an unelected "handler" from a secret occult mystical sect, they will laugh at you and say you must have been watching too much Harry Potter.

And that's the reason they prompted this IMO. To better hide in plain sight.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk




^^^THIS^^^


This is brilliant and I really think you nailed it. That IS how the world works. There are 2 separate worlds interacting with each other. The Muggle one, which is us and we think we control things and it's the only one, but there's the secret Wizard world of the occult that interacts with us and controls us via their use of the occult. Or at least their belief in the occult (note CULT in the word OCCULT) in their minds elevates them above us. What they really have is the advantage of secrecy and implausibility - people can't believe that a secret world of controllers could exist like this possibly for hundreds - maybe thousands - of years. But it obviously does, if we are honest, we see the evidence frequently and now it is becoming ever more open in their designs for Global power and control.
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Like emma watson (hermione) who turned into a globalist dy *e pass around and slept with imf lezbo and power people - she is totally into the hand signals and goes around preaching it like a zombie.
They fkd em young and taught em to fk the top satanists. Harry turned out a nasty sht too.
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and do you honestly believe it wasn't written by a team that works at MARVEL? the yelling newspaper git in spiderman 1 with toby mcgwire wrote most of it.
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I would assume you are both right. No chance the official story is correct, an outsider would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be promoted to this level of success.

The author (or team?) behind the books is absolutely part of "the club".

But the books are actually pretty good. I've read all seven, and they're well written, with oodles of interesting characters and an engaging story.

My opinion, is that Harry Potter is "soft disclosure". Tell the truth in the form of fiction, for the purpose of hiding it.

The basic setting in Harry Potter, is that there exists a mundane world for normal people, and a hidden parallel world for the secret elites that run everything from behind the scenes, and these elites are engaging in occult practices. We outsiders are the "muggles" who go about our little lives, unaware of what's really going on. We think the prime minister is in power, but in Harry Potter we actually see a "wizard" entering his office and giving him orders.

The real world is exactly like that. But if you were to tell people that the real world prime minister answers to an unelected "handler" from a secret occult mystical sect, they will laugh at you and say you must have been watching too much Harry Potter.

And that's the reason they prompted this IMO. To better hide in plain sight.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk




^^^THIS^^^


This is brilliant and I really think you nailed it. That IS how the world works. There are 2 separate worlds interacting with each other. The Muggle one, which is us and we think we control things and it's the only one, but there's the secret Wizard world of the occult that interacts with us and controls us via their use of the occult. Or at least their belief in the occult (note CULT in the word OCCULT) in their minds elevates them above us. What they really have is the advantage of secrecy and implausibility - people can't believe that a secret world of controllers could exist like this possibly for hundreds - maybe thousands - of years. But it obviously does, if we are honest, we see the evidence frequently and now it is becoming ever more open in their designs for Global power and control.
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Like emma watson (hermione) who turned into a globalist dy *e pass around and slept with imf lezbo and power people - she is totally into the hand signals and goes around preaching it like a zombie.
They fkd em young and taught em to fk the top satanists. Harry turned out a nasty sht too.
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They DID turn out rather nasty and I guess how could they not - they were so perfectly CONDITIONED.

It's a pity this thread didn't get more attention but that was probably deliberate - it's an important subject as it's had an enormous psychological affect on at least 2 generations of children/young people. SJWs definitely get brainwashed in college but they are conditioned into magickal thinking MUCH EARLIER THAN THAT...it's like marinating a steak. You get them thinking that whatever they imagine IS real if they believe in it hard enough - Harry Potter is what conditioned these generations, starting in the 90s to belief in this fantastical thinking in preference to....Muggle (mundane) Reality. Muggle does not sound like a very complimentary word, does it, and don't we all want to be part of the Elite Wizarding world?

I love one of the posts a couple of pages back that mentioned the generally dark and depressing tone of the novels, the world that they - the WIZARDS THEMSELVES live in , is dark and depressing. It's not full of beautiful light filled spirits and sprites and fairies etc...like Lord of the Rings has....it's set in dark, dreary places with creepy entities and an ultimately soul sapping energy.

I think Harry Potter IS very dark and very destructive and extremely ingeniously written and maybe the entire series of novels is a spell on the human race in its own right. I would NOT let children read these or watch the movies. They are not the innocent pastimes the naive would believe.
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The various opinions and comments hold lots of truth.

It seems like there is a lot of suspicion about the books and their dark impact. The suspicions about the books seem to encompass ideas from soft disclosure to negative magical impact, to information about JK Rowling being into some dark stuff and having connections with unsavory situations.

A few think it is only a fantasy that was fun.
For me, after reading through the comments, I will continue to steer away from the books. I loved Lord of the Rings. I love fantasy, but, the HP books just feel different to me and it concerns me.

As I mentioned earlier. As a youth, I was exposed to some ideas around some darker magic and, for me, I also quickly learned that there were negative consequences that I realized that I wanted to avoid--to not let my curiosity pull me in a direction that I would regret. This was part of the reason for my questions.

I am very grateful for the discussion.

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Yup.
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The various opinions of this are so varied.

It does seem like there is a lot of suspicion about the books and their impact. The suspicions are varied from soft disclosure to negative magical impact, to information about JK Rowling being into some dark stuff and having connections with unsavory situations.

A few think it is only a fantasy that was fun.
For me, after reading through the comments, I will steer away from the books. I loved Lord of the Rings. I love fantasy, but, the HP books just feel different to me and it concerns me.

As I mentioned earlier. As a youth, I was exposed to some ideas around some darker magic and, for me, I also quickly learned that there were negative consequences that I realized that I wanted to avoid--to not let my curiosity pull me in a direction that I would regret. This was part of the reason for my questions.

I am very grateful for the discussion.
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I think that's a wise decision. As one astute poster said, the HP books have a very dark energy even though they pretend to be about friendship and sacrifice and bravery, etc, those are like trappings on an entire world which is depicted as very dark, depressing, and threatening. The only way one can defeat these things in that world is through the use of magick, not through faith in God or any standard religion, certainly. There is no "God"...or indeed, "Goddess" mentioned in the HP books nor any reference at all to actual religion. They mention a religious holiday like Christmas....but not anything about why it's a holiday although everything else in the books is pretty much described in minute detail.

I have ALWAYS been of the belief that JK Rowling, whatever her real origins or life story, DID NOT write these books and that was a fantasy in itself. A cover story. I always assumed they were written within the British intelligence service for their own nefarious, propaganda, population control purposes, but it might be more intricate than that as some of your posters have indicated. Some fascinating stuff here.

You actually DON'T come out of nowhere as a desperately poor single mother and become a billionaire writing amazingly popular novels with your first one a giant hit and you end up outselling the Bible. This does not happen unless someone WANTS it to happen and enables it to happen. The JK Rowling success story is fake. Life does not happen like that - you need connections and you need to serve a purpose to the overlords.

I find it interesting now that she seems to have found a voice of her own in taking on the transgenders....and has been roundly and viciously attacked for it by even the kids who grew up in the HP movies. You can never deviate from the SCRIPT.
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Magic costs too much.

You don't even get to see the bill until it is due.

Sticker shock doesn't even begin to explain it.
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I would assume you are both right. No chance the official story is correct, an outsider would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be promoted to this level of success.

The author (or team?) behind the books is absolutely part of "the club".

But the books are actually pretty good. I've read all seven, and they're well written, with oodles of interesting characters and an engaging story.

My opinion, is that Harry Potter is "soft disclosure". Tell the truth in the form of fiction, for the purpose of hiding it.

The basic setting in Harry Potter, is that there exists a mundane world for normal people, and a hidden parallel world for the secret elites that run everything from behind the scenes, and these elites are engaging in occult practices. We outsiders are the "muggles" who go about our little lives, unaware of what's really going on. We think the prime minister is in power, but in Harry Potter we actually see a "wizard" entering his office and giving him orders.

The real world is exactly like that. But if you were to tell people that the real world prime minister answers to an unelected "handler" from a secret occult mystical sect, they will laugh at you and say you must have been watching too much Harry Potter.

And that's the reason they prompted this IMO. To better hide in plain sight.
 Quoting: Lazy Monk




^^^THIS^^^


This is brilliant and I really think you nailed it. That IS how the world works. There are 2 separate worlds interacting with each other. The Muggle one, which is us and we think we control things and it's the only one, but there's the secret Wizard world of the occult that interacts with us and controls us via their use of the occult. Or at least their belief in the occult (note CULT in the word OCCULT) in their minds elevates them above us. What they really have is the advantage of secrecy and implausibility - people can't believe that a secret world of controllers could exist like this possibly for hundreds - maybe thousands - of years. But it obviously does, if we are honest, we see the evidence frequently and now it is becoming ever more open in their designs for Global power and control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82120709

Like emma watson (hermione) who turned into a globalist dy *e pass around and slept with imf lezbo and power people - she is totally into the hand signals and goes around preaching it like a zombie.
They fkd em young and taught em to fk the top satanists. Harry turned out a nasty sht too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50027238



They DID turn out rather nasty and I guess how could they not - they were so perfectly CONDITIONED.

It's a pity this thread didn't get more attention but that was probably deliberate - it's an important subject as it's had an enormous psychological affect on at least 2 generations of children/young people. SJWs definitely get brainwashed in college but they are conditioned into magickal thinking MUCH EARLIER THAN THAT...it's like marinating a steak. You get them thinking that whatever they imagine IS real if they believe in it hard enough - Harry Potter is what conditioned these generations, starting in the 90s to belief in this fantastical thinking in preference to....Muggle (mundane) Reality. Muggle does not sound like a very complimentary word, does it, and don't we all want to be part of the Elite Wizarding world?

I love one of the posts a couple of pages back that mentioned the generally dark and depressing tone of the novels, the world that they - the WIZARDS THEMSELVES live in , is dark and depressing. It's not full of beautiful light filled spirits and sprites and fairies etc...like Lord of the Rings has....it's set in dark, dreary places with creepy entities and an ultimately soul sapping energy.

I think Harry Potter IS very dark and very destructive and extremely ingeniously written and maybe the entire series of novels is a spell on the human race in its own right. I would NOT let children read these or watch the movies. They are not the innocent pastimes the naive would believe.
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It got progressively more dreary. I only like the first two or three. When they were little.





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