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Re: The ancient Egyptians and Romans knew the secret to a healthy diet and they passed it on to the French
Oh..probably that is why life expectancy in those times was like 35.

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Another modernist myth.
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Nope man...No Myth.. haha..

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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

maybe it's coz all the plant based saturated fat you guys use for soap and cosmetics?
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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

maybe it's coz all the plant based saturated fat you guys use for soap and cosmetics?
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well and part of that means human saturated fat in general...
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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

maybe it's coz all the plant based saturated fat you guys use for soap and cosmetics?
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well and part of that means human saturated fat in general...
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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

coz yeah you get it all from vegans?
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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

maybe it's coz all the plant based saturated fat you guys use for soap and cosmetics?
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well and part of that means human saturated fat in general...
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"vegans dont get enough saturated fat"

coz yeah you get it all from vegans?
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well, its more than that.

But certainly there are some sources of saturated fats that are plant based, being neglected...

but also, sprouting is part of that, and nobody wants to sprout "plants?"
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Im not gonna lie tho I thin many vegans are basically, focusing too much on diet, and not enough on other things.... because it's supposed to be a lifestyle and not only about food right?

But then there are those who only choose to focus on foods.
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Im not gonna lie tho I thin many vegans are basically, focusing too much on diet, and not enough on other things.... because it's supposed to be a lifestyle and not only about food right?

But then there are those who only choose to focus on foods.
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and I mean that's where some might start also, but it goes beyond just food, or think of food as what you consume, which is everything
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Im not gonna lie tho I thin many vegans are basically, focusing too much on diet, and not enough on other things.... because it's supposed to be a lifestyle and not only about food right?

But then there are those who only choose to focus on foods.
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and I mean that's where some might start also, but it goes beyond just food, or think of food as what you consume, which is everything
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and then you realize, saturated fats is part of the bigger picture as well, and maybe that's why vegans are "low in saturated fats"...

like I said, many of the saturated fats are used in things other than for food.. so maybe that's why.
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"...let’s talk about the health benefits of foie gras. There are three major types of nutrients that our bodies need to grow and maintain themselves: carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Sugars can cause diabetes. Some sugars, like fructose, are actually fairly toxic. Complex carbohydrates, like starch, are rapidly broken into sugars (the process actually starts in the mouth), so they can be equally problematic. Proteins, when broken down, yield nitrogenous waste products, like uric acid, which can crystallize in the joints and cause gout.

Fats come in two varieties: unsaturated and saturated. Unsaturated bonds are less stable than saturated ones and can react with other compounds resulting in toxicity. So the safest and healthiest food that we could possibly eat is saturated fats. This of course goes against the whole dietary consensus that arose after World War II – but that consensus is completely wrong, and is unraveling.

Getting most of your energy from fat is also the easiest way to stay lean, paradoxical as it sounds. If you are at all attuned to your body (so I am not talking about pathological conditions), what happens when you eat fat is that you get satiated very quickly. So if you eat a modest amount of fat as part of your meal, and eat it slowly, preferably accompanied by good wine and good conversation, you give your body an opportunity to send you the signal that things are good and you’ve had enough. So you end up consuming less energy. And that’s how you stay lean..." [less than 50%] [link to thisviewoflife.com (secure)]
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I'm writing a nutrition book right now.
You're right about everything except that it's not as simple as saturated fats this or unsaturated fats that

palmitic acid is a fatty acid found in saturated fats like tallow. It is extremely inflammatory. It has to be balanced with anti inflammatory fats like omega 3 and 7.

What people don't understand is we actually have receptors in our brain for those fatty acids. It's not even a physical or chemical process. Our hypothalamus literally has receptors for omega 3 fats that reduce inflammation. So are unsaturated fats less stable? Yes. But we need some omega 3 to produce resolvins and lower inflammation that dysregulates hunger and a host of other things.

It is cool to see someone who knows what they're talking about though.
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yup, omega 3s.

the thing is, the main source, or what would be the main source of it, Hempseed, is banned. or atleast prohibited or hard to get in sproutable form...
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yup, omega 3s.

the thing is, the main source, or what would be the main source of it, Hempseed, is banned. or atleast prohibited or hard to get in sproutable form...
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so that right there. I think if just hemp were not prohibited maybe it would be easier, but who knows.

because basically that's what I came to.. the Only way I could make my raw vegan keto diet sustainable.. is if I regularly ate sproutable hempseeds.

but Im not in a place where that is probably legal, or easy to get unless I get it from this one website that sells it only in 50 lbs?

So whatever.

Im no longer doing raw vegan.
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yup, omega 3s.

the thing is, the main source, or what would be the main source of it, Hempseed, is banned. or atleast prohibited or hard to get in sproutable form...
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so that right there. I think if just hemp were not prohibited maybe it would be easier, but who knows.

because basically that's what I came to.. the Only way I could make my raw vegan keto diet sustainable.. is if I regularly ate sproutable hempseeds.

but Im not in a place where that is probably legal, or easy to get unless I get it from this one website that sells it only in 50 lbs?

So whatever.

Im no longer doing raw vegan.
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since Long ass time ago.

Actually since I got my infection so, that's a big reason why also.
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yup, omega 3s.

the thing is, the main source, or what would be the main source of it, Hempseed, is banned. or atleast prohibited or hard to get in sproutable form...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


so that right there. I think if just hemp were not prohibited maybe it would be easier, but who knows.

because basically that's what I came to.. the Only way I could make my raw vegan keto diet sustainable.. is if I regularly ate sproutable hempseeds.

but Im not in a place where that is probably legal, or easy to get unless I get it from this one website that sells it only in 50 lbs?

So whatever.

Im no longer doing raw vegan.
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since Long ass time ago.

Actually since I got my infection so, that's a big reason why also.
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i have to cook everything you know, to make sure it's sanitized.

That's why I think, it's not always possible. If you have an infection, and Do have a requirement to cook your food, just to keep sanitized, i think you have no choice.
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yup, omega 3s.

the thing is, the main source, or what would be the main source of it, Hempseed, is banned. or atleast prohibited or hard to get in sproutable form...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


so that right there. I think if just hemp were not prohibited maybe it would be easier, but who knows.

because basically that's what I came to.. the Only way I could make my raw vegan keto diet sustainable.. is if I regularly ate sproutable hempseeds.

but Im not in a place where that is probably legal, or easy to get unless I get it from this one website that sells it only in 50 lbs?

So whatever.

Im no longer doing raw vegan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


since Long ass time ago.

Actually since I got my infection so, that's a big reason why also.
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i have to cook everything you know, to make sure it's sanitized.

That's why I think, it's not always possible. If you have an infection, and Do have a requirement to cook your food, just to keep sanitized, i think you have no choice.
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specially when like, you dont know wtf is going on with the foods you get from the store and shit.
Fuck that.
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so that right there. I think if just hemp were not prohibited maybe it would be easier, but who knows.

because basically that's what I came to.. the Only way I could make my raw vegan keto diet sustainable.. is if I regularly ate sproutable hempseeds.

but Im not in a place where that is probably legal, or easy to get unless I get it from this one website that sells it only in 50 lbs?

So whatever.

Im no longer doing raw vegan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


since Long ass time ago.

Actually since I got my infection so, that's a big reason why also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


i have to cook everything you know, to make sure it's sanitized.

That's why I think, it's not always possible. If you have an infection, and Do have a requirement to cook your food, just to keep sanitized, i think you have no choice.
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specially when like, you dont know wtf is going on with the foods you get from the store and shit.
Fuck that.
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and I dont have a fuckin, personal garden or whatever. and I can't travel either. so fuck it.
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since Long ass time ago.

Actually since I got my infection so, that's a big reason why also.
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i have to cook everything you know, to make sure it's sanitized.

That's why I think, it's not always possible. If you have an infection, and Do have a requirement to cook your food, just to keep sanitized, i think you have no choice.
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specially when like, you dont know wtf is going on with the foods you get from the store and shit.
Fuck that.
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and I dont have a fuckin, personal garden or whatever. and I can't travel either. so fuck it.
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Im tryna take care of my infection first, and then maybe, who knows. when Im about to die, I can uhh, just eat raw air or smtg.
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i have to cook everything you know, to make sure it's sanitized.

That's why I think, it's not always possible. If you have an infection, and Do have a requirement to cook your food, just to keep sanitized, i think you have no choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34577285


specially when like, you dont know wtf is going on with the foods you get from the store and shit.
Fuck that.
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and I dont have a fuckin, personal garden or whatever. and I can't travel either. so fuck it.
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Im tryna take care of my infection first, and then maybe, who knows. when Im about to die, I can uhh, just eat raw air or smtg.
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plus IM not in the best environment.

so I dont believe, like many do, 'oh it's so easy to be raw vegan"

yeah I thought so.
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"...let’s talk about the health benefits of foie gras. There are three major types of nutrients that our bodies need to grow and maintain themselves: carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Sugars can cause diabetes. Some sugars, like fructose, are actually fairly toxic. Complex carbohydrates, like starch, are rapidly broken into sugars (the process actually starts in the mouth), so they can be equally problematic. Proteins, when broken down, yield nitrogenous waste products, like uric acid, which can crystallize in the joints and cause gout.

Fats come in two varieties: unsaturated and saturated. Unsaturated bonds are less stable than saturated ones and can react with other compounds resulting in toxicity. So the safest and healthiest food that we could possibly eat is saturated fats. This of course goes against the whole dietary consensus that arose after World War II – but that consensus is completely wrong, and is unraveling.

Getting most of your energy from fat is also the easiest way to stay lean, paradoxical as it sounds. If you are at all attuned to your body (so I am not talking about pathological conditions), what happens when you eat fat is that you get satiated very quickly. So if you eat a modest amount of fat as part of your meal, and eat it slowly, preferably accompanied by good wine and good conversation, you give your body an opportunity to send you the signal that things are good and you’ve had enough. So you end up consuming less energy. And that’s how you stay lean..." [less than 50%] [link to thisviewoflife.com (secure)]
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Mickey Dees?
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Earth itself may not be hospitable for vegans...

regardless of what they think a human is supposd to be "carnivore" or "frugivore"
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Earth itself may not be hospitable for vegans...

regardless of what they think a human is supposd to be "carnivore" or "frugivore"
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Hell the universe itself.

but I digress
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Earth itself may not be hospitable for vegans...

regardless of what they think a human is supposd to be "carnivore" or "frugivore"
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Hell the universe itself.

but I digress
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God is not benevolent enough to allow vegans to live
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Nonsense.. Meat, Potatoes, Veggies, GRAVEY, Butter (lots), Olive oil (good), glass of wine and a good, nightly romping with your husband/wife.

THAT is the way to go.

Sesly, that's the way my grand parents and great grandparents etc ate and all lived to be over 100 and never had cancers or weird ailments.

Personally, I think it was the wine and a good banging every few nights.


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Earth itself may not be hospitable for vegans...

regardless of what they think a human is supposd to be "carnivore" or "frugivore"
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Hell the universe itself.

but I digress
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God is not benevolent enough to allow vegans to live
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oh yeah and you dont want to be "human"

because that is a "Monster"
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Earth itself may not be hospitable for vegans...

regardless of what they think a human is supposd to be "carnivore" or "frugivore"
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Hell the universe itself.

but I digress
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God is not benevolent enough to allow vegans to live
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oh yeah and you dont want to be "human"

because that is a "Monster"
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well, i was literally cursed from birth anyways, so I cant be vegan anyways....
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"...let’s talk about the health benefits of foie gras. There are three major types of nutrients that our bodies need to grow and maintain themselves: carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Sugars can cause diabetes. Some sugars, like fructose, are actually fairly toxic. Complex carbohydrates, like starch, are rapidly broken into sugars (the process actually starts in the mouth), so they can be equally problematic. Proteins, when broken down, yield nitrogenous waste products, like uric acid, which can crystallize in the joints and cause gout.

Fats come in two varieties: unsaturated and saturated. Unsaturated bonds are less stable than saturated ones and can react with other compounds resulting in toxicity. So the safest and healthiest food that we could possibly eat is saturated fats. This of course goes against the whole dietary consensus that arose after World War II – but that consensus is completely wrong, and is unraveling.

Getting most of your energy from fat is also the easiest way to stay lean, paradoxical as it sounds. If you are at all attuned to your body (so I am not talking about pathological conditions), what happens when you eat fat is that you get satiated very quickly. So if you eat a modest amount of fat as part of your meal, and eat it slowly, preferably accompanied by good wine and good conversation, you give your body an opportunity to send you the signal that things are good and you’ve had enough. So you end up consuming less energy. And that’s how you stay lean..." [less than 50%] [link to thisviewoflife.com (secure)]
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I'm writing a nutrition book right now.
You're right about everything except that it's not as simple as saturated fats this or unsaturated fats that

palmitic acid is a fatty acid found in saturated fats like tallow. It is extremely inflammatory. It has to be balanced with anti inflammatory fats like omega 3 and 7.

What people don't understand is we actually have receptors in our brain for those fatty acids. It's not even a physical or chemical process. Our hypothalamus literally has receptors for omega 3 fats that reduce inflammation. So are unsaturated fats less stable? Yes. But we need some omega 3 to produce resolvins and lower inflammation that dysregulates hunger and a host of other things.

It is cool to see someone who knows what they're talking about though.
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Grass-fed beef has good amount of omega 3.
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Hell the universe itself.

but I digress
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God is not benevolent enough to allow vegans to live
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oh yeah and you dont want to be "human"

because that is a "Monster"
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well, i was literally cursed from birth anyways, so I cant be vegan anyways....
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there's no like "religious freedom" like everyone thinks.

you are Cut into the cult, and if you leave you DIe.
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OP is correct.

I know the perfect food. It is over 70% fat--and has been around since before Rome-empire days anyway.

I'm getting to be a real geezer--in age. 10 years ago, I looked better than those 10 years younger than me. I just chalked it up to luck--or bad habits by some others. Today, I look almost exactly the same--minus some hair. I mean it is getting crazy. I am mortal so know I will die, but I will be one good looking and healthy SOB when I move on.

BTW, the magical food must be eaten in very small quantities. I have some 2 or three times a day. Some people would consume what would be a week supply for me in one sitting--because they are stupid gluttons that will likely die from over consumption of the super food.

The OP is on the right track with this. Those that disagree, well, I glad about that too--as you dumbass sheeple won't be waiting air much longer--or as long as you could.





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