.38 Snub Nose REVOLVER - ALL you REALLY need in a EDC CCW

S&W model 60, stainless version of model 36 "Chiefs special" in a pocket or IWB holster for 45 years.
No one ever knew, because I haven't needed it yet.
Great tool.

until you have to defend against 7 people...

I am all for quantity-(17) 147 gr star points.

Backed up with 12 230 gr JHP and 10 155gr HP .357.

no perfect solution really

until you have to defend against 7 people...

I am all for quantity-(17) 147 gr star points.

Backed up with 12 230 gr JHP and 10 155gr HP .357.

no perfect solution really

The latter isn't true. It takes adjustment to the revolver and double action trigger, but once you practice one can get fairly accurate out to 10 yards. Some snubbie pro's much farther.

The real question is if you were walking home at night and had to use a gun for self defense in a questionable area would you wait around and tell the cops? Or would you defend yourself and keep moving and go home. If your in the second category, its nice to have a small revolver. In many states you are not required to report this.

A 4 inch revolver isn't a snubbie, lol... A snubbie is usually a 2 inch barrel, i.e. a "Snub" barrel. Some consider up to a 3 inch j frame a snubbie. 4-6 inch is full size.

I want Taurus 627

.357 - .38

Im kinda excited about the new S&W CSX. I havent really wanted a new gun for a few years. ultra compact check, metal frame check, has a hammer not striker fired check. Sub 600$ price check.
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autos have much more sensitivity to ammunition type.

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This is true, I wont carry a pistol I haven't put at least 500 rounds of the ammo I'm going to carry through it without failure.
That said Ive never had a Glock, Sig, or m&P fail to fire or eject ever, with 10s of thousands of rounds through them. 1911s are the pickiest and need some "tuning" normally.

like I said earlier, revolvers have a place.

it's for people that want a simple tool that works
without a lot of training or effort.

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Ruger Security Six .357mag even better :D

I want a new revolver because my MP shield gets dirty so fast living in the woods and working outside.

I dont disagree. For me their purpose is not leaving shell casings behind. I carry a small S&W 642 in my left jacket pocket. I just dont believe they are any more reliable then a quality auto....and when they do fail its normally catastrophic and cant be brought back into action without taking the gun apart. Instead of rack, slap shoot.

Really neat gun.

My buddy owns one. And has enjoyed it.

A catastrophic failure of either auto or revolver IS a catastrophic failure. Period.

Small failures, as you've mentioned in your post, such as FTF, FTE these are COMMON failures of autos completely impossible in revolvers. Not catastrophic ones.

A catastrophic failure of either auto or revolver IS a catastrophic failure. Period.

Small failures, as you've mentioned in your post, such as FTF, FTE these are COMMON failures of autos completely impossible in revolvers. Not catastrophic ones.

Also has been some discussion on "accuracy".

I would argue there are two types of accuracy. Accuracy "in hand" of user. Which is a question of competence, training, and talent.

And then there is INHERENT accuracy. Inarguably revolvers are more INHERENTLY accurate.

The barrel, sights, and chamber of a revolver are FIXED through the same z axis. The action of a revolver does not cycle, the barrel does not upheld or rotate as autos do.

yes, but an auto is more likely to have a small common failure, even though like I said Ive fired 10s of thousands of rounds through all my autos and never had a failure. I dont even clean the things. Just spray them down and put them away. When your cylinder wont turn there isnt much you can do. When you mainspring breaks You have to take the revolver apart. When your firing really hot ammo and your cases stick in the cylinder its a major issue. With an auto mostly your worst case scenario is rack tap shoot, at the worse its change mags, rack slap bang.

and its tap rack bang . You want to tap the mag first before you re rack the slide incase the mag wasnt seated correctly .

when you tap after you rack the round may not have been picked up due to the mag not seated correctly .

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Respectfully this has not been the case of myself or any number of my friends. I don't know a single shooter who regularly practices, that has not had a FTE to FTF at some point in time from even the most reliable of auto pistols. And again, this isn't a knock on autos, they absolutely have many advantages in a vast number of situations.

I also do not know a serious shooter, enthusiast, or even collector who does not clean their weapons however.

It is akin to essentially purporting to be a car expert, while saying you've never had a flat tire in your life, and that you don't even bother to change your oil... because "well it's a Toyota."

Everything comes full circle again..

Yes, little J frames have been putting bad people on ice for over 100 years. No reason to think it can't still do it.

Tactics is what people should really study!

The gun part has always been simple and easy.

there's a few fixed barrel autos. my HK P7 was
the most accurate pistol Ive fired.

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Honors from Acme Gun School, lol?

If this is what they are teaching, I HOPE if ever I have to defend myself, my target is a graduate from your class..

It is the best choice.

Bringing a firearms discussion to GLP is akin to teaching pigeons to bowl.

I have been doin this shit for a minute.. that would be a bit over 50 years.

Wife daily carries a 442 that I load with 158 gr SJHP, over a stiff dose of 5.2 gr of Unique.

Super effective SD round, I used to load a 146 WC upside down with a gas check.. that was a bastard as well.. with the advent of mosern HP bullets I can now load for expansion out of the 2" gun no problem.

I carry a 3.5 inch 1911 daily. Govt model on occasion.

Load for both, I carry 230 ball... thats right ball. There are lots of dead germans and japs not complaining about the efficacy of 230 grain ball.

Shot placement is paramount in any encounter as those of us that take this seriously know.

I practice at 25 yards.. always have always will.. the silly trend of training at 7 yards was part of the "everyone gets a trophy" mantra.

At 15, 7 or 3 feet I have no issues doing even better.

Did you know the original colt 1851 was actually designed to be "on" at 75 yards? Thats why they shoot so fuckin high at 15...

The Jframe and a good load in a 38+P is an excellent choice for defensive carry.

Like I tell my students.. it is a "get the fuck off me gun, In todays world You simply have to be attacked to defend, when the bastard is on top of you, you screw that barrel in his ear and change his mind."

As you say.. for any more of an encounter than that where the odds are more than 1:1.. I will grab the 11.5" truck gun.

Too many dummies that don't know they are, here, when it comes to firearms and their use.

Taurus snub .357 that can chamber .38. You have options there.

No doubt they pack a punch. The problem is capacity, ruger sp only hold 5 rounds and so small smith and wessons. The new kimber k6s offers 6 rounds at a high price. Seven round revolvers are big and hard to carry. Therefore revolvers are thing of the past when you compared with a subcompact pistol like a Glock 26 with the ability to carry from 10 round magazine up to 33 round magazines. When you see hordes of 30 plus smash and grab hoodlums you have to think that 5 rounds won’t be enough to defend yourself and family.