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Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study

 
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The Gospel is about FOLLOWING what Jesus actually SAID and DID.
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Uhhhh .. NO.

That is NOT the Gospel.
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Really?

Jesus came to teach AND set the example.

Jesus said....

"I am the way" - John 14:6

"Follow me" - Matthew 4:19 and 16 other verses

Jesus lived a sinless life. He even told people He healed to 'sin no more'.

ALL the writers of the NT said 'REPENT'.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Repentance - A Deeper Look - Definition of "Repent" & The Importance of Repentance

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

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As humans, we are to strive for the same.

The writers exhort us to refrain from sin...

Bible verses - avoiding sin

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The Gospel is about FOLLOWING what Jesus actually SAID and DID.
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Uhhhh .. NO.

That is NOT the Gospel.
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Jesus said 'follow me' and forgave others, and said to do the same as He did.

Thread: Forgiveness of Others is Almost Impossible for Many - Yet it's Necessary - Bible Study
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Jesus prayed to the Father and gave thanks to the Father.

We're supposed to do the same.

Matthew 26:36-42

36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.
37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Mark 14:32-39

32 And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.
33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;
34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?
38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
39 And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.

John 17

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

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Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.


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Rev 3:5-6
I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels. 6 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

Who's speaking? The Spirit. He identifies Himself as the Son of the Father. There is ONLY ONE Son. Thus, JESUS is the Spirit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44305164


Galatians 4:6
Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
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Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them
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Rev 3:5-6
I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels. 6 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
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Who's speaking?

Jesus? Or "the third element"/ "the third entity"?

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The Gospel is about FOLLOWING what Jesus actually SAID and DID.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Uhhhh .. NO.

That is NOT the Gospel.
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Look at what the Lord's Prayer has you say...

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study
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Jesus said....

"I am the way" - John 14:6

"Follow me" - Matthew 4:19 and 16 other verses
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Why don't you obey Him?

hmm
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John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Romans 8:14
For whosoever are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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Who are Christ's sheep? The sons of God.

Who is Christ? The Spirit of God.
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Galatians 4:6
Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75827624


Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


hmm
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Jesus said....

"I am the way" - John 14:6
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Ecclesiastes 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

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'as a man'?

Jesus doesn't know when He will return.

The Father is sovereign and has authority.

The Father SENT Jesus.
The Father SENDS the Holy Spirit.
The Father WILL send Jesus again.

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study
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Jesus- 7But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocatea will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you

8And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78393032

Jesus was reassuring the Apostles that the Holy Spirit would be sent.

Jesus said He would ask the Father to SEND the Holy Spirit

Thread: Jesus is NOT The Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost / Spirit of God - NOR is it His Own Spirit - Bible Study
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The Spirit of His Son is the Holy Spirit.
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Excerpts from the Pootine Bible

The Conception of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself".

The Baptism of Jesus

"Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...
...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...
...filled himself WITH himslef...
...then LED himself into the wilderness"


The Death of Jesus

"Holy Spirit Jesus died on the Cross"??

"Holy Spirit Jesus was resurrected"????

The Day of Pentecost

"And Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of the Apostles and disciples on the day of Pentecost"

.....

So...have you prayed to the

Flaming Sword Holy Spirit God Jesus today???

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Galatians 4:6
the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
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Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee;
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



hmm
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Galatians 4:6
the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
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Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee;
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


John 1:14
the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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'as a man'?

Jesus doesn't know when He will return.

The Father is sovereign and has authority.

The Father SENT Jesus.
The Father SENDS the Holy Spirit.
The Father WILL send Jesus again.

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Jesus- 7But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocatea will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you

8And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me;
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78393032

Jesus was reassuring the Apostles that the Holy Spirit would be sent.

Jesus said He would ask the Father to SEND the Holy Spirit

Thread: Jesus is NOT The Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost / Spirit of God - NOR is it His Own Spirit - Bible Study
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Denial of Scripture.

Jesus said He would send..
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IF Father God had NOT SENT Jesus to earth - NONE of us would be talking about the Gospel etc...

The bottom line is that Father God SENT Jesus to earth AND TOLD Him WHAT to say.

Father God is the author of Salvation.
It's HIS plan.
Not Jesus' plan.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting:

whatsoever I speak therefore, even
as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

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IF Father God had NOT SENT Jesus to earth - NONE of us would be talking about the Gospel etc...

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Amen.

Galatians 4:6
Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
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John 12:49-50
whatsoever I speak therefore, even
as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Amen

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
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Denial of Scripture.

Jesus said He would send..
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Deny THIS you demon.

John 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,

whom the Father will send in my name,


he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance,

whatsoever I have said unto you.

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Denial of Scripture.

Jesus said He would send..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75827624

Deny THIS you demon.

John 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,

whom the Father will send in my name,


he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance,

whatsoever I have said unto you.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


What's the Name of the Holy Spirit, TLS?
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What's the Name of the Holy Spirit, TLS?
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Galatians 4:6
the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.”
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Mark 14:36
And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee;
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Flaming Sword Holy Spirit God Jesus today???
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Have you blasphemed the Father and Jesus today?
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John 14:26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost,

whom the Father will send in my name,

he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance,

whatsoever I have said unto you.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


hmm
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Phil 2:6
who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
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Proverbs 1:23
If you turn to my reproof, I shall bring forth my Spirit to you, and I shall show you my Word.
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What's the Name of the Holy Spirit, TLS?
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drevil
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Jesus said....

"I am the way" - John 14:6
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Ecclesiastes 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit..

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Ironic - when Jesus created the Lord's Prayer...

...He put NOTHING in it about Himself.

Why is that?

Thread: The Lord's Prayer - The ONLY Prayer Given the Apostles - Declares the Father as Sovereign - KJV Bible Study

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