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Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study

 
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He's a false teacher.
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Who isn't?
[according to you]

Name some names of non-false teachers ....
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I stopped watching false teachers a long time ago, but the last one I like was Walter Veith.
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For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


Isaiah 9:6
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Earlier manuscripts ended at wonderful counselor. Period

Mighty God, Father, Prince of Peace were added by the scribes.

YAHUSHUAH is not the Almighty One, and Jesus has no power to save.

But of course you would rather argue and rattle off a bunch of scriptures to show us how much you know, rather than at least look at what others have discovered that proves differently. Go back to your church and have your pastor lie to you some more so you feel good.

And now you will come back with a whole array of other scriptures that have foot notes to them or will have been mistranslated.

Have you ever done any in depth research on how the word was handed down through the generations. You will find that is was like the wolf guarding the hen house.

Do you even care or understand that James Strong was a devout Episcopalian, who never had ANY formal education in ANY ancient languages? He was a businessman. You will find that many times he would say the words origin is unknown. Do you think he could have been partial to established doctrines rather than the truth?

Episcopalians, are endorsing many unholy practices these days, just one step away from the Catholics who, if you ever took the time to research, they were the ones who canonized the Bible. etc. etc. etc. et. etc. etc.

I'm not going to waste my time anymore as most all of you are set in your ways and it will have to be YAHUAH that shows you your error. Have you ever even once, done a in depth word study on the first 4 commandments of the 10 commandments?

Mathew 7:21-23 Read carefully, and meditate on every word, and understand, these are not "sleepy church" Christians, these are ALL CHRISTIANS, as they are doing what passionate Christians do.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you lawless ones’

How about the parable of the 10 virgins. Who do you think the unwise ones were? oh, its the ones who canonized the Word, that makes a lot of sense.


I don't mean to come off as a hypocrite as I served in the Assemblies of God church for over 25 years and made all the same arguments as you, until YAHUAH humbled me, and then showed me the truth.

May YAHUAH take the scales off your eyes and bless You.

In the name of YAHUSHUAH and by the authority of YAHUAH, who is the self existing, Mighty One.

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Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

JESUS/YAHUSHUA = YHWH/YAHUA

Same exact person.

Deal with it.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83785185


He's a false teacher.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Who isn't?
[according to you]

Name some names of non-false teachers ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I stopped watching false teachers a long time ago, but the last one I like was Walter Veith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Hmmm ... a Seventh Day Adventist ... Thanks, but I'll pass on that heresy.

I've got an Aunt that I led out of Seventh Day Adventism to faith in Christ.

Got any others that are not part of a cult?
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Romans 9:5 the Messiah, who is God over all
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Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,


that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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He's a false teacher.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Who isn't?
[according to you]

Name some names of non-false teachers ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I stopped watching false teachers a long time ago, but the last one I like was Walter Veith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919



Hmmm ... a Seventh Day Adventist ... Thanks, but I'll pass on that heresy.

I've got an Aunt that I led out of Seventh Day Adventism to faith in Christ.

Got any others that are not part of a cult?
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They're all cults.
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Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

JESUS/YAHUSHUA = YHWH/YAHUA

Same exact person.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


Romans 9:5 Footnotes a. Or Messiah, who is over all. God be forever.

Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 

2Pe 1:2  Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, AND OF Jesus our Lord, 

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Read in context, you see what you want to see. OUT OF CONTEXT

Jude 5. Go to the preface of your bible where it tells you the publishers replaced YHWH with God and Lord. You choose to make Lord Jesus.

Also YHWH is mistranslated, go look at the Dead Sea Scrolls original script. Paleo He=brew, didn't have w's sir.

John 20:28 Strong's concordance G2316 Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a MAGISTRATE; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].

It could have easily been translated as KING.

Jesus is a made up name created by Pope Cristo's in the 3rd century.

YOU deal with it. I could do this with you all night but quite frankly, I'm tired and not going to continue to do the research YOU NEED to do.

May YAHUAH bless you.
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Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

JESUS/YAHUSHUA = YHWH/YAHUA

Same exact person.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


Romans 9:5 Footnotes a. Or Messiah, who is over all. God be forever.
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Only God is over all.
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Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 
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God & Savior: Jesus Christ
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Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

JESUS/YAHUSHUA = YHWH/YAHUA

Same exact person.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


Romans 9:5 Footnotes a. Or Messiah, who is over all. God be forever.
 Quoting: quick


Only God is over all.
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Look at the footnote more closely.
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1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Read in context, you see what you want to see. OUT OF CONTEXT

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Out of context?

Pre-school grammar says Jesus is the True God based on this verse.
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Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

JESUS/YAHUSHUA = YHWH/YAHUA

Same exact person.

Deal with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


Romans 9:5 Footnotes a. Or Messiah, who is over all. God be forever.
 Quoting: quick


Only God is over all.
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Look at the footnote more closely.
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Only God is over all.
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John 20:28 Strong's concordance G2316 Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a MAGISTRATE; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].

It could have easily been translated as KING.

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Only God is our King.
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Jude 5. Go to the preface of your bible where it tells you the publishers replaced YHWH with God and Lord. You choose to make Lord Jesus.

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Jesus saved and destroyed a people.

Deal with it.
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Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 
 Quoting: quick


God & Savior: Jesus Christ
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God AND Our Saviour Both are righteous

You continue to see what you want to see but start at John 1 vs 18 footnotes. and continue with all the passages and hopefully you will see the pattern of deception being done by the publishers, who BTW are owned by big media, the ones who deliver you the trusted news each day.
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Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 
 Quoting: quick


God & Savior: Jesus Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


God AND Our Saviour Both are righteous
 Quoting: quick


God IS our Savior.

God & Savior = Jesus.

Jesus = God.

Deal with it.

There is NO SAVIOR other than God.
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Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 
 Quoting: quick


God & Savior: Jesus Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


God AND Our Saviour Both are righteous
 Quoting: quick


God IS our Savior.

God & Savior = Jesus.

Jesus = God.

Deal with it.

There is NO SAVIOR other than God.
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Yeah, now you are giving the pastors line of BS..
Go read the book of Jeremiah 19

O YAHUAH, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of distress, the nations will come to You from the ends of the earth, and they will say, “Our fathers inherited nothing but lies, worthless idols of no benefit at all. 20Can man make gods for himself? Such are not gods!” 21“Therefore behold, I will inform them, and this time I will make them know My power and My might; then they will know that My name is the YAHUAH.…

This is coming very soon, and you will be given an opportunity to REPENT, It's called being "stiff necked".

May YAHUAH open your eyes of understanding.

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God & Savior: Jesus Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


God AND Our Saviour Both are righteous
 Quoting: quick


God IS our Savior.

God & Savior = Jesus.

Jesus = God.

Deal with it.

There is NO SAVIOR other than God.
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Yeah, now you are giving the pastors line of BS..
Go read the book of Jeremiah 19

O YAHUAH, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of distress, the nations will come to You from the ends of the earth, and they will say, “Our fathers inherited nothing but lies, worthless idols of no benefit at all. 20Can man make gods for himself? Such are not gods!” 21“Therefore behold, I will inform them, and this time I will make them know My power and My might; then they will know that My name is the LORD.…

This is coming very soon, and you will be given an opportunity to REPENT, It's called being "stiff necked".

May YAHUAH open your eyes of understanding.
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God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ:
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Jude 5. Go to the preface of your bible where it tells you the publishers replaced YHWH with God and Lord. You choose to make Lord Jesus.

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Jesus saved and destroyed a people.

Deal with it.
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I don't remember anyone that YAHUSHUA destroyed, other than spiritual demons.

This is a future event, when he comes back as concurring King, and if you do not start looking at this issue with an open, fair, mind, you will fall into that group of people.

In the name of YAHUSHUAH by the authority of YAHUAH, may your eyes be opened.
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Jude 5. Go to the preface of your bible where it tells you the publishers replaced YHWH with God and Lord. You choose to make Lord Jesus.

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Jesus saved and destroyed a people.

Deal with it.
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I don't remember anyone that YAHUSHUA destroyed, other than spiritual demons.

This is a future event, when he comes back as concurring King, and if you do not start looking at this issue with an open, fair, mind, you will fall into that group of people.

In the name of YAHUSHUAH by the authority of YAHUAH, may your eyes be opened.
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Read John chapter 17, and apply the footnotes. Read very closely, over, and over again until you get it.

Good night, I'm done for tonight.
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Who isn't?
[according to you]

Name some names of non-false teachers ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490


I stopped watching false teachers a long time ago, but the last one I like was Walter Veith.
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Hmmm ... a Seventh Day Adventist ... Thanks, but I'll pass on that heresy.

I've got an Aunt that I led out of Seventh Day Adventism to faith in Christ.

Got any others that are not part of a cult?
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They're all cults.
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Who are 'they'?
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I stopped watching false teachers a long time ago, but the last one I like was Walter Veith.
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Hmmm ... a Seventh Day Adventist ... Thanks, but I'll pass on that heresy.

I've got an Aunt that I led out of Seventh Day Adventism to faith in Christ.

Got any others that are not part of a cult?
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They're all cults.
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Who are 'they'?
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All the churches.
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Jude 5. Go to the preface of your bible where it tells you the publishers replaced YHWH with God and Lord. You choose to make Lord Jesus.

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Jesus saved and destroyed a people.

Deal with it.
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I don't remember anyone that YAHUSHUA destroyed, other than spiritual demons.
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Jesus saved and destroyed a people.

Jude 5

Deal with it, double minded man
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So who wants to get schooled again today?

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Pe 1:1 ....faith with us through the righteousness of God AND OUR Saviour Jesus Christ: 
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God & Savior: Jesus Christ
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75914919


God AND Our Saviour Both are righteous
 Quoting: quick


God IS our Savior.

God & Savior = Jesus.

Jesus = God.

Deal with it.

There is NO SAVIOR other than God.
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Acts 7:30
After forty years had passed, an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the desert near Mount Sinai.

Acts 7:51-53
51“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncírcumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 52Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him— 53you who have received the law that was given through angels but have not obeyed it.”

drevil
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BTW - God has MANY, MANY names.
All in the Scriptures.
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Zechariah 14:9
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
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1 John 5:20 Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Read in context, you see what you want to see. OUT OF CONTEXT
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Out of context?

Pre-school grammar says Jesus is the True God based on this verse.
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Utter NONSENSE.

Your 'pre-school grammer' overlooks the

'him' and 'his SON'. Who is the 'him'???

The Father - the True God.

KJV 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come,

and hath given us an understanding,

that we may know him that is true,

and we are in him that is true,

even in his Son Jesus Christ.

This is the true God, and eternal life.


....

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


....

Other translations of 1 John 5:20...

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1 John 5:20 Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Read in context, you see what you want to see. OUT OF CONTEXT
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Out of context?

Pre-school grammar says Jesus is the True God based on this verse.
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Utter NONSENSE.

Your 'pre-school grammer' overlooks the
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1 John 5:20 Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Learn pre-school grammar.
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our God and Savior Jesus Christ


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