Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study

You have to love Him

and be thankful to Him.

God wants those that want Him.

If you don't want Him, He won't twist your arm or your Will.

SotL,

Yeah, Salvation.

In your own words,

What is the gospel Good News?

You write

“ 1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

Then proceed to list some verses and yet won’t include the following verse:

Jesus - I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united

the apostle Paul said, “Christ lives in me.”
“the Spirit of God dwells in you” (verse 9) “Christ is in you” (verse 10)

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?”

Amen!!!!!

You are brain-damaged, because you hit your empty head all the time.

Stop spreading your heresies.

Romans 9:5
the Messiah, who is God over all

2 Peter 1:1
our God and Savior Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Jude 5
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe.

John 20:28
Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

Because Jesus Himself said it.

'If you do not believe that I AM HE, you shall die in your sins'

'Before Abraham was, I AM'

'I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, the Beginning and the End'

Others on this thread have detailed the Apostles called Him God.

What don't you understand?


You should leave your cult, as their teaching is poor and lacks truth.

He is quite possibly a sodomite.

He believes a works-based Gospel ... which, as Paul has stated in Galatians, is NO GOSPEL AT ALL.

He believes a FALSE GOSPEL.

Answer, boy. Answer the question.

The cultist even seeks to change scripture, if he doesn't like or understand what it says.

Shame. Shame on you, culty.

One Spirit lives in Christians, called alternately the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of Christ, and Christ.


Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Romans 8:1-4


9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

Romans 8:9-11


14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”

Romans 8:14-15

Great Post and Great Point.

Most all cultists do not understand the Unity and Co-Equality of the Godhead.

God is One.


One cultist on here thinks the Holy Spirit is Jesus because of this type confusion.

Piss poor excuse for Bible study.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 4:3-5
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16
14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Jesus = the Lord = the Spirit.

Deal with it, tranitard.

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God created me, and the breath of the Almighty gave me life.

1 Cor 8:6b
and there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created and through whom we live.

2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name

.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


.....

Too many people scream 'Jesus' but DENY the Father.

Jesus declared the Father as the 'only True God'.

The Gospel is about FOLLOWING what Jesus actually SAID and DID.

Do you FOLLOW Jesus?

Do you REALLY love Jesus?

Jesus declared the Father as
"the only true God" "My God and YOUR God".

Be like Jesus.

Declare the Father as the ONE TRUE God.

Show us the verse that believing that 'Jesus is God' is required for Salvation.

You can't - it doesn't exist.
Yet all these verses say 'SON OF God'...

.....

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

1 John 5:20
Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

The person just called the Spirit "Christ" and you said great post.

Lmao.

A Great Witness from St. Paul occurs in this chapter, verses 5-10:

5And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

10For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.


Paul's Witness is that those unable to Trust God Fully, Be Guided BY HIM and Endure The Chastening HE Provides are unable to become Born-Again. Paul says these are Bastards Not Sons.

My observation is that this relates to Matt 22:14 which ends The Parable of The King's Wedding Feast: "For Many Were Called, But Few Are Chosen!"

UP To You to do the choosing!
YOU Have To Choose to Give Your Life Unto The Father.

Doesn't matter a damn bit that Jesus IS The Word become Flesh; not in context to your decision to Trust God with All you are and All you ever will be.

Jesus IS WHO HE IS, no matter what you're willing to allow HIM to be. That's the trouble with religion and dogma; it's all about men deciding what they will allow God to be!

Father Sent Christ Jesus To ENABLE Those HE Called To Come Unto HIM, In Matt 16:13-20, Jesus Witnesses that KNOWING WHO HE IS is only put on our hearts By The Father. If you KNOW WHO HE IS, then Father Called You Unto HIM.

All the study and good works mean nothing if you don't KNOW WHO Jesus IS.

Most Christians are unwilling/unable to Trust God Fully.

Catholics never hear that Father Wants To KNOW Them Personally and Directly. Christians are afraid that Trusting God 100% might be a trick of the devil.

The Whole Enchilada of Christianity is about Coming Unto The Father.
John 3:7 "Marvel not that I Say unto you: Ye MUST Be Born-Again!"
John 14:6 "...No man Cometh Unto The Father except BY ME!"

Coming Unto The Father is what Jesus IS ALL About!


Maranatha!!!

Define "Gospel" WITHOUT using the word "gospel". Is there an english equivalent to the word "Gospel"?

My own words...

"Father God's plan to regather the peoples of all nations back to Him through Belief in the existence and teachings of His only begotten Son Jesus, who taught that through Repentence of sin and Faith / Belief in Him, that people would be forgiven their sins and alloewd entrance into a future Kingdom, where the Father woud dwell with them eternally."

John 3:16. Beloew are Jesus' basic teachigs - and Paul's that match.

1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.

Paul - Repentence? Check

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Paul - Belief that Jesus is the Son of God? Check

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.


3. Obey / Keep the Commandments

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Paul - Commandments? Check

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.


4. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Paul - Doing the Father's Will? Check

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;


5. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Paul - Forgiveness

2 Corinthians 2:7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.


6. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Paul doesn't use the exact phrase- but he clearly understands what happens.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Peter.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

That's not what Jesus says.

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name

.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Because you are a perverted cultist.

The Scripture YOU post says Jesus is the True God.

What??????

Why agree with the post if you don't actually agree, dum dum?

Matthew 1:23

King James Version

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Oh Boy! The OP is a real-life Hebrews Bastard!

Pretty Plainly Said BY Jesus in Matt 16:13-20...
HE asks The Apostles "Who do you say I Am?"
Only Peter Knows and says "Thou Art The Christ! Son Of The Living God!"

Jesus Marvels that Peter Knows this and Says "Upon THIS Rock I Build MY Church~!"

HE cautions The Apostles to tell no one that HE IS The Christ!

Peter is NOT The Rock...
The ROCK is The Knowledge that Father Put On his heart!

KNOWING WHO Jesus IS is Father's Call To You!
OP don't have it...

Got some twisted doctrine you'd rather believe than your own heart?


Doesn't much matter that Christ Redeemed you from sin if you fail to Answer Father's Call.

Your Redemption matters only if you Come Unto The Father.
Those Called By The Father must be Redeemed because The Father Cannot Look Upon Sin.

Want eternal life, but don't KNOW WHO JEsus IS?

Matt 7:21-23 Witnesses Jesus Saying HE ONLY KNOWS Those Who "DO The Will Of MY Father which art in Heaven". Only by being Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again are we Enabled to KNOW and DO Father's Will. This is why Jesus rebuked those seeking entry into Heaven that had "done Mighty Works, Cast-Out demons, and Prophesied In Your Name". They are told "Depart from ME, you who do iniquity: I KNOW You NOT!"

We are ALL 'workers of iniquity" (self-will) until we Come Unto The Father and pledge our lives and our will Unto HIM. ALL Born-Agains KNOW The Father and Abide with HIS Holy Spirit Within and serve HIS Will rather than our own.

KNOWING WHO Jesus Is is only the Beginning.

If you would BE HIS, NOW is the time to Tell HIM So!


Maranatha!!!

Jesus did 'marvel' at anything.

The phrase "living God" occurs 30 times in 30 verses in the KJV.

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Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father

which is in heaven.

.....

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

My own words...

"Father God's plan to regather the peoples of all nations back to Him through Belief in the existence and teachings of His only begotten Son Jesus, who taught that through Repentence of sin and Faith / Belief in Him, that people would be forgiven their sins and alloewd entrance into a future Kingdom, where the Father woud dwell with them eternally."

John 3:16. Beloew are Jesus' basic teachigs - and Paul's that match.

1. Repent

Matthew 4:17 (KJV) From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying*, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe* the gospel.

Paul - Repentence? Check

Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.


2. Believe

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Paul - Belief that Jesus is the Son of God? Check

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.


3. Obey / Keep the Commandments

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Paul - Commandments? Check

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.


4. Do the Father's Will

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Paul - Doing the Father's Will? Check

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;


5. Forgive others so the Father will forgive you.

Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Paul - Forgiveness

2 Corinthians 2:7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.


6. Be "born again".

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Paul doesn't use the exact phrase- but he clearly understands what happens.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Peter.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.


Do you believe that Jesus Christ died for you to atone for your sins?