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This Scientist Proves Why Our Reality Is False | Donald Hoffman on Conversations with Tom

 
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Bees cannot glide, like a fixed winged aircraft but they can certainly fly and math agrees...
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At this point the math is fake!
Math said a Bee can not fly but it does
this shows math is not right all the time.
Now if they made a TV like thing that they turn on and it shows on the TV that everything is not as we see it then maybe we can belive in this. but right now i just think
it is just what they belive and they made the math work for them just as math shows a bee can not fly. math can show anything but we all know math can lie.
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False!

That is an urban legend and is a lie!

Snope it out...
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Snope?!!!

Did....you...just????



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hi CG

Watched about an hour last night, and it is interesting.

I feel like there are a couple points that he is stating as an absolute truth (while also previously stating he knows nothing...lol) that are not.

Still have another hour.

I do like a lot of things he says too.

I doubt that there is a single person I 100% agree with, though.

hf
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hi CG

Watched about an hour last night, and it is interesting.

I feel like there are a couple points that he is stating as an absolute truth (while also previously stating he knows nothing...lol) that are not.

Still have another hour.

I do like a lot of things he says too.

I doubt that there is a single person I 100% agree with, though.

hf
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Hi there, sister! Thank you for taking the time to watch it....hf
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HA! That is the perfect music to describe what can happen to one while watching AND on the heels of watching this video!


Believe it or not, I was able to play that song on the piano when I was a teen....hf
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I’m barely a beginner...my dad was a super talented musician could play so many different instruments, I’ve only had piano and viola...and a little bit of guitar. I’m a better listener than a player... :)
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Up front, this is a long video, almost 2.5 hours long. I'm an hour into it, and....


boom33


I'm posting this for those with a brain and attention span and, of those, the desire to better understand our reality and interactions within it. It's blowing my mind, because this man is explaining what I understand....heh, but he explains it in detail and very well.

This is the description of the video--

Most of us believe we perceive reality as it generally is, with perhaps some slight distortions. But mathematical models based on natural selection suggest that our strongest intuitions may be false. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Donald Hoffman and Tom Bilyeu discuss the fascinating possibilities that stem from the theory that evolution gave us the equivalent of a desktop interface that hides the real truth from us so that we can take effective action. They discuss the nature of consciousness, free will, space-time, causality and the self.


--and if you go to yt, there are show notes that outline what each section is about, per a timestamp. First time for me to see that. It's really nice for a long video, especially if there is a particular part that caught your attention. You don't have to guess where it is in the video, if you want to review it.....woohoo




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I started watching this because I was tired - didn't sleep well last night - and bored....but I'm so far from being bored while watching it.

I hope those of you interested in this subject matter, that you can find the time to view this....hf

Harhar, I'm going to have to watch it at least twice, in order to take it all in....tounge
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Fascinating.


thanku
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You know what's really weird ?

I'm told in reverse, the DARK SPEECH, the HELLFIRE LANGUAGE, that I am "POPPING THE SKULLS" I am "BLOWING TO DEATH" the "MINDS" of those who think this reality is a hologram !!! I'm told that "HOLOGRAMS HAVE BEEN RUINED" over what I've done, in showing the world the DARK SPEECH . I'm told how "TO DEATH YOU ARE ANNOYING" people, that "TRULY THIS WORLD IS OVER WITH"



Can you imagine if people were wearing their BACKMASKS er uh I mean FACEMASKS as the SECRET SIGN that we are NEARING a FALSE FLAG event ? How would you bee able to tell ? Is there ONE MAN in this world, the CHOSEN ONE, who can show the world the TRUTH about the BACKMASKING er uh I mean FACEMASKING ?

Things are going VIRAL out there

Will the ONE MAN step up, and reveal to the world, the hidden secrets in reverse ?

Will the reversed facemasked er uh I mean BACKMASKED secrets EVER come to light ?

July 12 News Network is on the scene !!!

https://imgur.com/a/u9PCe3k


hehehe >:33 To anyone who doesn't like my information, I'm told to tell them, "TO HELL WITH THEM LOL HA-HA" I'm told in reverse how "THIS ENTIRE EARTH WE'VE CURSED" so leaving a "LOL HA-HA" does something to "REMOVE/LOOSEN AXLES" from some people's "VEHICLES" as they are "SMASHED TO DEATH ON OUR ROADS" yea meow that's right on OUR roads >:33 gosh goode thing I don't drive LOL HA-HA

backspeakINWO
Notice how this special FACEMASKING card has OUR LADY KURT COBAIN on it like wowwww can it get any more clear ? Yes. i can. And it will >:33

I'm just gonna keep...MILKIN' it...hehehe


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The book The Case Against Reality by Donald Hoffman arrived today!.....woohoo

I'm looking forward to digging into it this weekend....flower
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The real trick is to learn to think critically; ask better and more questions. Don't accept anything at face value. Be sure you're making healthy decisions, getting adequate rest and spending proper time reflecting on things.
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Up front, this is a long video, almost 2.5 hours long. I'm an hour into it, and....


boom33


I'm posting this for those with a brain and attention span and, of those, the desire to better understand our reality and interactions within it. It's blowing my mind, because this man is explaining what I understand....heh, but he explains it in detail and very well.

This is the description of the video--

Most of us believe we perceive reality as it generally is, with perhaps some slight distortions. But mathematical models based on natural selection suggest that our strongest intuitions may be false. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Donald Hoffman and Tom Bilyeu discuss the fascinating possibilities that stem from the theory that evolution gave us the equivalent of a desktop interface that hides the real truth from us so that we can take effective action. They discuss the nature of consciousness, free will, space-time, causality and the self.


--and if you go to yt, there are show notes that outline what each section is about, per a timestamp. First time for me to see that. It's really nice for a long video, especially if there is a particular part that caught your attention. You don't have to guess where it is in the video, if you want to review it.....woohoo




[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I started watching this because I was tired - didn't sleep well last night - and bored....but I'm so far from being bored while watching it.

I hope those of you interested in this subject matter, that you can find the time to view this....hf

Harhar, I'm going to have to watch it at least twice, in order to take it all in....tounge
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sin and shame create death
you vill own nutting und den you vill kill yourselves
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you are all evil and your evil consciousness is extinguished by the universal, catholic consciousness (which includes animals) and even plants.

you must only take the seed of other creatures into your mouth, everytime you eat a tomato you are taking the tomato plant's seeds into your mouth and swallowing its seeds, and this gives the tomato plant great pleasure.

also you actually shit the seeds out onto the ground and fertilize the seed, one crap load should fertilize a large tomato plant for it's life.

so you actually fucked the earth with the seeds from your ass.
you vill own nutting und den you vill kill yourselves
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you are all evil and your evil consciousness is extinguished by the universal, catholic consciousness (which includes animals) and even plants.

you must only take the seed of other creatures into your mouth, everytime you eat a tomato you are taking the tomato plant's seeds into your mouth and swallowing its seeds, and this gives the tomato plant great pleasure.

also you actually shit the seeds out onto the ground and fertilize the seed, one crap load should fertilize a large tomato plant for it's life.

so you actually fucked the earth with the seeds from your ass.
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Okay, this is my thread and I'd like to try and keep it clean. I don't mind someone speaking their "off color" mind once, but it won't happen twice. I will remove you from the thread if you continue on at this rate, okay?
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Strange didn't mean to triple post? How do you delete posts?
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I watched part of it and found he made a lot of assumptions in his theory.
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He only proved he's mentally ill. Oh, and he's not an actual Scientist.. Dipshit.
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Rough crowd this evening......billlaugh
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Interesting thread CG.

Your question about: can mathematics be reverse engineered is an interesting one.

I remember quite some time back that the amount designated to Pi was ? and it was rounded up or down, this could mean that all current scientific mathematical equations are wrong?!

Im trying to find a link that talks about this.

Try this one, though Ive not read all of it yet.

[link to www.pcworld.com (secure)]

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Interesting thread CG.

Your question about: can mathematics be reverse engineered is an interesting one.

I remember quite some time back that the amount designated to Pi was ? and it was rounded up or down, this could mean that all current scientific mathematical equations are wrong?!

Im trying to find a link that talks about this.

Try this one, though Ive not read all of it yet.

[link to www.pcworld.com (secure)]
 Quoting: AdorableLittlepixie



You're the only one who has even approached the idea of reverse engineering mathematics, so thank you for that.

And Pi and fractals, that's a whole 'nother story for me than how most think of it, one I'm not going to go into right now.

Harhar, I don't think most care about my thinkings anyway....charlie
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Okay, I just pinned this because I know there are some highly intelligent people on GLP....lol, and I'm going to want someone to talk about this information with.
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Sorry - I'm sticking with Father God's wisdom.

Humans have no match for that.

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Gotta bump this so I can watch video later. Nice thread Cosmic Gypsy! Only got thru first 2 pgs of comments and just know I need to watch this tomorrow evening when I finally get off the road.
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Gotta bump this so I can watch video later. Nice thread Cosmic Gypsy! Only got thru first 2 pgs of comments and just know I need to watch this tomorrow evening when I finally get off the road.
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Heh, it rocked my world....ohyeah


Please do tell us how watching it goes for you....hf
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I read Biocentrism as well and it just makes me think that until we see the whole picture we are just looking at a gigantic puzzle with only a bit of it put together. Meditating in the dark helps me alot for my inner self and understanding me as a photon reader but living in this world is insane no matter what. Thats why the monks separate themselves preferably as high and far as possible.
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Imagine a huge picture, size of the universe, and we are looking at it thru the keyhole and drawing our conclusions based on what we see at current moment thru that keyhole, in addition picture is dynamic....
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:check1: @ wikipedia DONALD D. HOFFMAN


:check1: @ wikipedia MONISM


:check1: @ wikipedia ADVAITA VEDANTA


:CHECK1: HOFFMAN IS NOT SAYING WE LIVE IN A SIMULATION.


:CHECK1: HOFFMAN IS SAYING OUR PERCEPTIONS ARE WRONG & WE ARE LOOKING FOR EASY ANSWERS (ICONS) THAT PAYOFF.



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check1 @ wikipedia ADVAITA VEDANTA one of my favorites!
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False, true enough. :-)

Some call it Maya

An illusion

An illusion is not not real

It is not as it seems...

Few understand the teachings of Gotoma..

But he laid out a perfect map of the nature of suffering &( maya)

And a way to free oneself from it, permanently :-)

thanks for the post!
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I read Biocentrism as well and it just makes me think that until we see the whole picture we are just looking at a gigantic puzzle with only a bit of it put together. Meditating in the dark helps me alot for my inner self and understanding me as a photon reader but living in this world is insane no matter what. Thats why the monks separate themselves preferably as high and far as possible.
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Imagine a huge picture, size of the universe, and we are looking at it thru the keyhole and drawing our conclusions based on what we see at current moment thru that keyhole, in addition picture is dynamic....
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Yup. If thought about deeply, it's a sobering thought....hf
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Well, as a practical matter, it all seems real enough to everybody,
that's why they call it Reality

The Physicists have proven that there is no actual Substance to anything,
and yet it looks and feels substantial enough to us.

So, the the Philosophers and Scientists may be right
in what they're saying.
But as a practical matter it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

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I just read a book on Biocentrism, which is what he is describing...You cannot remove an observer from any equation...
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You can with DMT.

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