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This Scientist Proves Why Our Reality Is False | Donald Hoffman on Conversations with Tom

 
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I just read a book on Biocentrism, which is what he is describing...You cannot remove an observer from any equation...
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You can with DMT.

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Or meditation.

Or dark room retreat (natural DMT secretion)

Or kundalin yoga.
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You cannot remove an observer from any equation...
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I just read a book on Biocentrism, which is what he is describing...You cannot remove an observer from any equation...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You can with DMT.

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 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Thats why you take DMT, to observe, keyhole gets bigger and you can understand that you cannot comprehend “why”.... you can only feel it. Once you get back to physical reality, you become a same “pig” as you were before with slight different point of view, but “pig” nonetheless...
Contra spem spero
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Reality is a symbiotic relationship between matter and the observer, as electrons do not make a decision until observed as proved in the double slit experiment...and there are many many experiments involving shooting electrons at a screen and watching how they "decide" to react...
 Quoting: BRIEF


how electrons know they are observed?
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I just read a book on Biocentrism, which is what he is describing...You cannot remove an observer from any equation...
 Quoting: BRIEF


You can with DMT.

.
 Quoting: Whatever It Takes


Thats why you take DMT, to observe, keyhole gets bigger and you can understand that you cannot comprehend “why”.... you can only feel it. Once you get back to physical reality, you become a same “pig” as you were before with slight different point of view, but “pig” nonetheless...
 Quoting: Contra spem spero


'long pig'

As to the previous poster speaking of seeds & road apples:

Human waste is processed by bacteria instead of 'contributing' loam to the earth. Scents go to waste, humans no longer seed, as is proper to man.
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Love this thread!
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Love this thread!
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5a...........chuckle
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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Thanks CosmicGypsy

hf

This thread came while AC's were banned so couldnt say thanks.

It came at a time to me..... where it was needed.

Timing and things work out for me chuckle


It blew my mind too. REALLY blew my mind. He was actually confirming what Ive thought from 5 years old..... although in an advanced way.

Im shit at maths pardon the french.

Science and great minds will one day show what I already suspect and alot of people already suspect, that this reality is a bit poop chuckle yes..... false......

Whole thread was great BTW. Fantastic discussion on all this.
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Up front, this is a long video, almost 2.5 hours long. I'm an hour into it, and....


boom33


I'm posting this for those with a brain and attention span and, of those, the desire to better understand our reality and interactions within it. It's blowing my mind, because this man is explaining what I understand....heh, but he explains it in detail and very well.

This is the description of the video--

Most of us believe we perceive reality as it generally is, with perhaps some slight distortions. But mathematical models based on natural selection suggest that our strongest intuitions may be false. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Donald Hoffman and Tom Bilyeu discuss the fascinating possibilities that stem from the theory that evolution gave us the equivalent of a desktop interface that hides the real truth from us so that we can take effective action. They discuss the nature of consciousness, free will, space-time, causality and the self.


--and if you go to yt, there are show notes that outline what each section is about, per a timestamp. First time for me to see that. It's really nice for a long video, especially if there is a particular part that caught your attention. You don't have to guess where it is in the video, if you want to review it.....woohoo




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I started watching this because I was tired - didn't sleep well last night - and bored....but I'm so far from being bored while watching it.

I hope those of you interested in this subject matter, that you can find the time to view this....hf

Harhar, I'm going to have to watch it at least twice, in order to take it all in....tounge
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We need to revisit this topic. LONG video but you must find the time to listen.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

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we see what we need to se to stay alive just long enough to reproduce??

Let that sink in abortion lovers. Your life is worthless in the greater scheme of things..
Oh dear, did I just say that??

Donald Hoffman: Reality is an Illusion - How Evolution Hid the Truth | Lex Fridman Podcast

snip

OUTLINE:
1:12 - Case against reality
12:40 - Spacetime
37:04 - Reductionism
57:30 - Evolutionary game theory
1:25:53 - Consciousness
2:21:13 - Visualizing reality
2:33:48 - Immanuel Kant
2:36:30 - Ephemerality of life
2:44:56 - Simulation theory
2:50:37 - Difficult ideas
3:05:39 - Love
3:09:14 - Advice for young people
3:11:33 - Meaning of life
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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"Questioning the fabric of reality will lead you to madness or the truth and the funny thing is you wont know which is which"




Does a madman know he is mad?


would you know
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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Reality is a symbiotic relationship between matter and the observer, as electrons do not make a decision until observed as proved in the double slit experiment...and there are many many experiments involving shooting electrons at a screen and watching how they "decide" to react...
 Quoting: BRIEF


how electrons know they are observed?
 Quoting: Nicca


No one actually knows, i recall watching the double slit experiment and being blown away by the behaviour of the electrons under observation.

One of the fundamental flaws of classical physics is that it does not take into consideration the constant in everything, which is the need for a conscious observer. Everything we know, understand only exists because at some point in time it was observed.

Without observing something, it never truly comes to be.
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My two cents on simulation theory:

1) Double slit experiment: electrons go through wave and particle form, there state is determined by observation. - This is like a computer game, when playing you only see what is in your field of view, nothing else is created until it is observed in game as this saves on processing power.

2) The big bang: This was the simulation being turned on, ask anyone to explain what happened before the big bang that actually makes any rational sense.

3) The universe is unbelievable organised and structured, Goldilocks zones etc considering it was all a big bang, makes no fucking sense.

4) Quantum entanglement: two subatomic particles can be intimately linked to each other even if separated by billions of light-years of space - This is Saved Data, cloud storage if you like of the universe

5) Particle form, and cached data. The more something is observed the more the data is cached on a universal scale. So each time it is observed the data become more robust.
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My two cents on simulation theory:

1) Double slit experiment: electrons go through wave and particle form, there state is determined by observation. - This is like a computer game, when playing you only see what is in your field of view, nothing else is created until it is observed in game as this saves on processing power.

2) The big bang: This was the simulation being turned on, ask anyone to explain what happened before the big bang that actually makes any rational sense.

3) The universe is unbelievable organised and structured, Goldilocks zones etc considering it was all a big bang, makes no fucking sense.

4) Quantum entanglement: two subatomic particles can be intimately linked to each other even if separated by billions of light-years of space - This is Saved Data, cloud storage if you like of the universe

5) Particle form, and cached data. The more something is observed the more the data is cached on a universal scale. So each time it is observed the data become more robust.
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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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Admittedly at one point i went a little nuts, i began drawing on my walls as a way to try and understand the universe. There are so many variable to consider, honestly i went down the rabbit hole in a big way.

In the end everything led me towards vibration and frequency, i stopped there, because it became too much to try and process, it's as though our ability to comprehend certain things is capped / restricted.

Also i am shit at math, and math / numbers seem to play a big role in everything. Fibonacci, golden ratio, Earth Grids,Mandalas, Harmonographs, Sacred geometry etc etc

For instance Tesla always harped on about the numbers 3,6,9, the more you dig into that it leads you to Vortex maths
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omcbump
Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.





GLP