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CURMY
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2331927 United States 02/13/2021 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You get a 1 star Every in the 50s would smoke in pubs or dining to eat out, now smokers are hated and banned from smoking. If smoking reduces Covid 19, I want to see evidence. Many people in China do not smoke cigarets and if smoking stops Covid virus, this would be shocking and good news. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2331927 United States 02/13/2021 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You get a 1 star Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2331927 Every in the 50s would smoke in pubs or dining to eat out, now smokers are hated and banned from smoking. If smoking reduces Covid 19, I want to see evidence. Many people in China do not smoke cigarets and if smoking stops Covid virus, this would be shocking and good news. Doctors in France think that smoking can be both good and bad for people who are at risk of contracting the novel coronavirus infection. Smoking is a risk factor for COVID-19 patients, but one particular substance in cigarettes — nicotine — might prevent infection in some people, or improve COVID-19 prognosis. The French doctors will use patches in a study. [link to bgr.com (secure)] |
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Plato II
User ID: 77134059 United States 02/13/2021 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's why spliffs are the only way to go... little american spirit, mix some bud in the front part, and use the butt end as a filter of just tobacco, or a paper crutch is nice if you aren't lazy. ~Hic Manebimus Optime~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78227579 United States 02/13/2021 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Never forget, right before Covid took off, there was a “vaping scare” that concluded with officials, and organizations, condemning vaping. The person that said Chinese don’t smoke...LOL. Of course they do, and a lot...but good luck getting any hard data out of China on the subject. Just some thoughts...compromised people get Covid. Smoking, drinking, and other activities don’t make you compromised per se...they can if it degrades your health to a certain level, it otherwise...you are just immune suppressed...which is good for cytokine storms. Why do you think they clamped down on smoking/vaping, and closed bars down? Funny how this all works. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80040599 United States 02/13/2021 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many people in China do not smoke cigarets and if smoking stops Covid virus, this would be shocking and good news. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2331927 You have clearly never left your parents basement.. "China is the largest producer and consumer of tobacco in the world. There are more than 300 million smokers in China, nearly one-third of the world's total. More than half of adult men are current tobacco smokers. About one in every three cigarettes smoked in the world is smoked in China. In addition, over 700 million non-smokers in China, including about 180 million children, are exposed to second-hand smoke (SHS) at least once a day in a typical week. Exposure to SHS causes 100,000 deaths annually. " |
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BirdMom
User ID: 79834879 Panama 02/13/2021 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nicotine neutralizes the effect of fluoride on the brain. That wasn't something I found out until many years later, but somehow my body already knew it. There's also research showing that nicotine combats parkinsons and alzheimers. I noticed that after I started smoking all those years ago that I also stopped getting colds and flus. Recently I heard that nicotine leaches Vitamin C from the body, and that you need take 500 mg of Vitamin C for every pack you smoke just to break even. I started taking Vitamin C after I read that. I also take magnesium citrate, which has been like a miracle for me. When all this COVID BS started, I added Vitamin D3 to the supplements I take. I figured it couldn't hurt. I tend to do everything in moderation, including the supplements, and get great results despite not mega-dosing anything. |
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Plato II
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846190 United States 02/13/2021 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the stats tell a much different story, so there are less smokers than ever, yet lung cancer rates have gone up, so if smoking was responsible for the majority of lung cancers as they would have you believe as the percentage of the population that smokes went from 67% in 1989, to less than 12% in 2020, why have lung cancer rates doubled in the last decade. You have been bamboozled.. One out of three smokers gets lung cancer. Be far more to die of cardiovascular disease from smoking. Not to forget that all the nuclear testing back in the day accelerated cancer to what it is today. Radioactive isotopes are in everything. |
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Lost Angel
User ID: 80045766 United States 02/13/2021 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, I was at the salon this morning. Quoting: SugarSand Masked hardresser ... old friend ... decades long hairdresser ... she used to have her own shop which was like a TV barber shop with the gossip and such but now we're at a new salon so she's whispering in my ear ... she said: All the nurses say smokers don't get covid. They all started smoking again. They say all of those people on ventilators are non-smokers, and they haven't had smokers dying. I said: you quit smoking 15 years ago ... she said: I know you probably still smoke American Spirits ... you always did. That's what they said to smoke. I started again. that really happened LOVE IT! I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Jesus Christ Stay small(in ego), stay teachable(in life), stay in the basics(keep it simple) and pay attention(to guidance). me Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does. anonymous |
Montblanc
User ID: 80044796 Portugal 02/13/2021 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can thank the nuke tests for that (and leukemia) Why is Japan, one if not the heaviest smoking country, so little affected by lung cancer? Maybe because they have very, very little background radiation. At least before Fukushima and you can bet lung cancer rates will go up now over there. We should also mention the massive use of asbestos in the past in the west until they realized that one fiber is enough to give you lung-cancer. From roofs to car brakes to insulation, widely used. Both my mother's parents died of lung cancer. Neither smoked a day in their lives. Lived in the country on a farm, and neither spent much time at all around smokers. that was roughly 40 years ago, both in their 60's. I remember hearing about the smoking thing early on in the covid thing...then it was completely disappeared from the news. Same reason they stopped talking about vitamins, diet, and habits. They are pushing the vaxx, and in the meanwhile masks, sanitizers, and some other stuff have become stapple products in most households. Noblesse Oblige |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78276453 Luxembourg 02/13/2021 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VIRUSES LIVE IN THE BODY AND ARE NOT TRANSFERABLE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78478056 you idiots need to do some research, and i dont mean the news. So why can one person pass herpes or other sexually transmitted diseases to each other? We can make each other sick. herpes comes from contact with an open wound. It is definitely a pathogen of some kind |
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User ID: 24443795 United States 02/13/2021 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | snip..... Intuitively, one vulnerability to severe illness from COVID-19 would be assumed to be cigarette smoking [8] because it is known to increase the risk of serious respiratory infections [5–7]. But is this in fact true? In this issue of Internal and Emergency Medicine, Farsalinos et al. [9] explore the hypothesis that smokers are at higher risk and unexpectedly found data that point to the opposite and counter-intuitive conclusion that smoking may actually have a protective effect. Their systematic review observed that smoking is vastly protective for hospitalized COVID-19 based on the surprisingly low prevalence of smoking in patients hospitalized with COVID-19. While it is possible that the prevalence of smokers in Chinese case series may be underrepresented due to inaccurate recording of their smoking status, similar findings have been now being reported in the US, Germany and in France. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) [10] report an unusually low prevalence of current smoking among COVID-19 cases at 1.3% compared to population smoking prevalence in US of 16.5% [11]. A cross-sectional analysis of 4103 laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients treated at academic hospitals in New York City, demonstrated again a low smoking prevalence of 5.2% [12]. A multivariate analysis performed by the New York researchers showed a significant protective effect against hospitalization among current and former tobacco users (OR = 0.71, 95% CI 0.57–0.87 p = 0.001). Moreover, smoking was not a risk factor for critical disease or death. In Germany, a recent case series of hospitalized COVID-19 patients found a low smoking prevalence of about 6% [13]. The protective association has been also recently observed in France where smoking prevalence reported for various age groups and levels of disease severity roughly average to about 1/5 of the population prevalence [14]. These findings are consistent with the Chinese findings of Farsalinos et al. snip.... Further evidence of the effect of nicotine on COVID-19 should be observed in Sweden where snus—an oral tobacco product that releases high concentrations of nicotine—consumption is highly prevalent. If the hypothesis of nicotine being protective against hospitalized COVID-19 is correct, this should be evident by analyzing the prevalence of snus usage in Swedish patients hospitalized with COVID-19. In the same way, the impact of other popular nicotine delivery products such as e-cigarettes and heated tobacco products on the severity of COVID-19 hospitalizations should be included in COVID-19 surveillance particularly in countries such as the UK where nicotine vaping is highly prevalent. The consistent observation that smoking prevalence is surprisingly low among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, should not be dismissed out of hand but monitored. The use of nicotine patches as a treatment for COVID-19 appears to have some potential in the race to find solutions for this terrible pandemic. More.... [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." --William Pitt |
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Larphillips
User ID: 78895011 United States 02/13/2021 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a regular on the OG Covid thread here for months. LOTS of early intel coming out of China at the time that smokers were less likely to get infected, and if they did, the symptoms were mild and the duration short. There will NEVER be a published study on this in Western medicine...at least not one available to the public. I myself, a smoker, caught ‘something’ a year ago...felt like a really nasty cold, and I brushed it off as such. I had one day of very mild fever, one day of being totally and completely ‘gone,’ and a day or two of no taste or smell. The last symptom was before this was widely known as a symptom of Covid. I never got tested, so I’ll never know. All that said, it really was just like a nasty cold...and got through it all relatively quickly and completely. Last Edited by Larphillips on 02/13/2021 08:55 PM “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
Larphillips
User ID: 78895011 United States 02/13/2021 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smoking is my vice. I've long suspected it's a form of self-medication in my case. Most people don't start smoking as late in life as I did, and it was around the time I was prescribed a med that had fluoride in it. Quoting: BirdMom Nicotine neutralizes the effect of fluoride on the brain. That wasn't something I found out until many years later, but somehow my body already knew it. There's also research showing that nicotine combats parkinsons and alzheimers. I noticed that after I started smoking all those years ago that I also stopped getting colds and flus. Recently I heard that nicotine leaches Vitamin C from the body, and that you need take 500 mg of Vitamin C for every pack you smoke just to break even. I started taking Vitamin C after I read that. I also take magnesium citrate, which has been like a miracle for me. When all this COVID BS started, I added Vitamin D3 to the supplements I take. I figured it couldn't hurt. I tend to do everything in moderation, including the supplements, and get great results despite not mega-dosing anything. How late for you? I started at 33. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
Dollar Bill Wick
User ID: 77079815 United States 02/13/2021 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VIRUSES LIVE IN THE BODY AND ARE NOT TRANSFERABLE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78478056 you idiots need to do some research, and i dont mean the news. So why can one person pass herpes or other sexually transmitted diseases to each other? We can make each other sick. Please do not address the Canadian exhibit, thank you. Freelance Superhero with only a minor personality disorder. All my other personalities are just fine, thanks. Ignore him, no we aren't. Question: "What is the most important thing in your life?" Answer: "NOT BEING STUPID" - Jordan Peterson |
Dollar Bill Wick
User ID: 77079815 United States 02/13/2021 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VIRUSES LIVE IN THE BODY AND ARE NOT TRANSFERABLE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78478056 you idiots need to do some research, and i dont mean the news. Wow, you can't get dumber than this folks... He'll take that as a challenge, watch. Freelance Superhero with only a minor personality disorder. All my other personalities are just fine, thanks. Ignore him, no we aren't. Question: "What is the most important thing in your life?" Answer: "NOT BEING STUPID" - Jordan Peterson |