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Hairdresser intel: smokers don't catch covid

 
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Its the nicotone.

Niacin will do the same thing I think.
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Or maybe people who smoke just don't stress as much (could be tobacco or cannabis or both) and therefore don't create the conditions in their psyche to allow the demons into their body that viruses actually are.


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Yes they get something worse

Lung cancer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79605617


You can thank the nuke tests for that (and leukemia)

Why is Japan, one if not the heaviest smoking country, so little affected by lung cancer?

Maybe because they have very, very little background radiation. At least before Fukushima and you can bet lung cancer rates will go up now over there.

We should also mention the massive use of asbestos in the past in the west until they realized that one fiber is enough to give you lung-cancer.

From roofs to car brakes to insulation, widely used.
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It may go a long way to explaining the militant and draconian measures applied to those that smoke tobacco in the last decade. Perhaps this was known by the scientists that have been tweaking this virus.
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I've got a homebrew theory that hot particles are the cancer causing agent and tobacco takes the blame.

Do TPTB have a secret way to de-irradiate? Itd be irrational to have let fuku do what it did if they can't keep themselves safe from it.
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bsflag

A woman I know smokes and just recovered from covid. She said the worst part for her was all the nasty, super sticky phlegm she had to force coughing up.

She does not drink alcohol though...


And she is our bartender, and the only person in the establishment that came down with it so far, and we've been going there daily all through this mess. Heading there right now actually
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bsflag

A woman I know smokes and just recovered from covid. She said the worst part for her was all the nasty, super sticky phlegm she had to force coughing up.

She does not drink alcohol though...


And she is our bartender, and the only person in the establishment that came down with it so far, and we've been going there daily all through this mess. Heading there right now actually
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She recovered. Did not die.
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Yes they get something worse

Lung cancer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79605617


You can thank the nuke tests for that (and leukemia)

Why is Japan, one if not the heaviest smoking country, so little affected by lung cancer?

Maybe because they have very, very little background radiation. At least before Fukushima and you can bet lung cancer rates will go up now over there.

We should also mention the massive use of asbestos in the past in the west until they realized that one fiber is enough to give you lung-cancer.

From roofs to car brakes to insulation, widely used.
 Quoting: ThePaleOne


Both my mother's parents died of lung cancer. Neither smoked a day in their lives. Lived in the country on a farm, and neither spent much time at all around smokers. that was roughly 40 years ago, both in their 60's.

I remember hearing about the smoking thing early on in the covid thing...then it was completely disappeared from the news.
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Nicotine and niacin are not the same and totally unrelated. Nicotine does not turn into niacin.

Niacin in the old days was called nicotinic acid, but due to the confusion with nicotine, it was changed to niacin, but they were always completely separate compounds.
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Its the nicotone.

Niacin will do the same thing I think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75928385


not exactly, nicotinic acid/nicin is vitamin B3, nicotine is a different molecule.
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Early in the concern about covid, there was discussion about what might be useful and tobacco use was one of the possibilities to lessen the effect of covid or perhaps even prevent having it.

That discussion soon disappeared - no doubt because smoking is such a terrible thing yada yada. Perhaps people would start smoking to avoid covid yada yada.

I clearly remember it coming up because I am a tobacco smoker.
 Quoting: Pooka


this! almost a year ago when the huge 1700 page covid thread was getting started.
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Re: Hairdresser intel: smokers don't catch covid
Before covid, we talked about smokers in other threads. Smokers lungs are damaged and therefore don’t overreact with a cytokine storm reaction like healthy lungs, supposedly.
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Nicotine is a pesticide. I'm sure all plants produce various pesticides. I think maybe all plant smoking counts in this case.

Covid is like ... gimme fresh clean lungs.

It might explain why this sudden drop in cases ... everyone who would get it did ... the rest ... their lungs are inhospitable ...?
 Quoting: SugarSand


let me educate you

nicotine


nicotine oxide


nicotinic acid

Niacin,

also known as nicotinic acid,
is an organic compound and a form of vitamin B

C6H5NO2 or C5H4NCOOH

nicotinic acid

niacin

59-67-6

Pyridine-3-carboxylic acid

3-pyridinecarboxylic acid

Nicotinic acid is a pyridinemonocarboxylic acid that is pyridine in which the hydrogen at position 3 is replaced by a carboxy group. It has a role as an antidote, an antilipemic drug, a vasodilator agent, a metabolite, a B vitamin, an EC 3.5.1.19 (nicotinamidase) inhibitor, an Escherichia coli metabolite and a mouse metabolite. It is a pyridinemonocarboxylic acid and a pyridine alkaloid. It is a conjugate acid of a nicotinate.
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Strange that Pyridine is made from crude coal tar..

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(S)-nicotine is a 3-(1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl)pyridine in which the chiral centre has S-configuration. The naturally occurring and most active enantiomer of nicotine, isolated from Nicotiana tabacum. It has a role as a phytogenic insecticide, a teratogenic agent, a neurotoxin, an anxiolytic drug, a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, a biomarker, an immunomodulator, a mitogen, a peripheral nervous system drug, a psychotropic drug, a plant metabolite and a xenobiotic. It is a conjugate base of a (S)-nicotinium(1+). It is an enantiomer of a (R)-nicotine.
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(S)-nicotine is a 3-(1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl)pyridine in which the chiral centre has S-configuration. The naturally occurring and most active enantiomer of nicotine, isolated from Nicotiana tabacum. It has a role as a phytogenic insecticide, a teratogenic agent, a neurotoxin, an anxiolytic drug, a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, a biomarker, an immunomodulator, a mitogen, a peripheral nervous system drug, a psychotropic drug, a plant metabolite and a xenobiotic. It is a conjugate base of a (S)-nicotinium(1+). It is an enantiomer of a (R)-nicotine.
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C10H14N2

Synonyms
nicotine

L-Nicotine

54-11-5

(-)-Nicotine

(S)-Nicotine
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(S)-nicotine is a 3-(1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl)pyridine in which the chiral centre has S-configuration. The naturally occurring and most active enantiomer of nicotine, isolated from Nicotiana tabacum. It has a role as a phytogenic insecticide, a teratogenic agent, a neurotoxin, an anxiolytic drug, a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist, a biomarker, an immunomodulator, a mitogen, a peripheral nervous system drug, a psychotropic drug, a plant metabolite and a xenobiotic. It is a conjugate base of a (S)-nicotinium(1+). It is an enantiomer of a (R)-nicotine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72439668


C10H14N2

Synonyms
nicotine

L-Nicotine

54-11-5

(-)-Nicotine

(S)-Nicotine
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72439668


Your point for us non science people? Nicotine a vitamin or what?
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The main reason I've never worried about smoking and often thought it might be helpful is the amount of effort the gov't spent on telling us it's so dangerous. I mean, lol, the gov't likes to see us die so we don't collect our SS so in general, anything they try to say about what's good/bad for us, I tend to believe the opposite.
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That was established over a year ago. It coats the lung cells and makes them unable to take in the covid aids. So they say at least. I vape and haven't been sick in years.
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I work at a convenience store near a hospital and I was surprised how many health care professionals smoke
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The main reason I've never worried about smoking and often thought it might be helpful is the amount of effort the gov't spent on telling us it's so dangerous. I mean, lol, the gov't likes to see us die so we don't collect our SS so in general, anything they try to say about what's good/bad for us, I tend to believe the opposite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78363501


The government promotes, protects and encourages homosexuality , and 1 in 5 homosexuals have the virus that causes aids. The average life expectancy of a male homosexual is in the late 50's. The average life expectancy of a smoker of either sex in the USA is 74 years.


Any questions?
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The main reason I've never worried about smoking and often thought it might be helpful is the amount of effort the gov't spent on telling us it's so dangerous. I mean, lol, the gov't likes to see us die so we don't collect our SS so in general, anything they try to say about what's good/bad for us, I tend to believe the opposite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78363501


The government promotes, protects and encourages homosexuality , and 1 in 5 homosexuals have the virus that causes aids. The average life expectancy of a male homosexual is in the late 50's. The average life expectancy of a smoker of either sex in the USA is 74 years.


Any questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80044751


I've personally known around 10 people I can recall that died of lung cancer. 6 of them did not smoke at all, one of the ones who did died in her 40's, and the other three that did die of lung cancer died in their 80's and one of the three in her 90's. THAT is what I KNOW about smoking and lung cancer. If smoking made you die of cancer in your 80's or 90's, I imagine most people would smoke up, you have to die sooner or later, of something.

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I am convinced there is another causative factor. most likely radioactive fallout from the open air testing of nuclear weapons that took place in the desert southwest, the fallout carried east on the jet stream and deposited on tobacco crops in the east. Tobacco is KNOWN to absorb radioactive particles. This could explain why cancer was so prevalent among smokers in the years immediately after the testing took place, and now there is so little increased incidence of cancer in smokers.
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If you look at the programming tell lie vision throughout the years, you will see in the 50's 60's etc there were so many adverts promoting cigarettes, camels etc

If you look at a few modern day films or series in the doomsday ilke, you will see smokers.

12 Monkeys series is a good example. When the dude goes back to his own timeline they are all smoking like crazy fucks. You should see the ashtrays.

Now, bear with me, what is the film/series 12 monkeys all about? A VIRUS that wiped out most of humantiy.

Obviously this little pretend virus is just a data miner to see how people react and how much control they can get over the human spirit.

The one thing I do know though, is that our forefathers/mothers have been warning us from the past subconciously.

Subconscious, is amazing. its the very essence of us and it is subjugated by "something" but it warns us where it can.

Sometimes it can only do this via certain mediums like TV programmes films etc.... You see schizophrenics seeing messages in things. You see everyday people seeing images in things like clouds etc.... dont discard them right away.

Wait and research, the messages are there....

And yes...... smokers will be more UNLIKELY to catch covid. Some of these nasty parasites ( not virus ) do not like the chemicals or nicotine.

The subconcious is our very own MUSE, our phantom of the opera..... it may be ugly but its trying to HELP.
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If you look at the programming tell lie vision throughout the years, you will see in the 50's 60's etc there were so many adverts promoting cigarettes, camels etc

If you look at a few modern day films or series in the doomsday ilke, you will see smokers.

12 Monkeys series is a good example. When the dude goes back to his own timeline they are all smoking like crazy fucks. You should see the ashtrays.

Now, bear with me, what is the film/series 12 monkeys all about? A VIRUS that wiped out most of humantiy.

Obviously this little pretend virus is just a data miner to see how people react and how much control they can get over the human spirit.

The one thing I do know though, is that our forefathers/mothers have been warning us from the past subconciously.

Subconscious, is amazing. its the very essence of us and it is subjugated by "something" but it warns us where it can.

Sometimes it can only do this via certain mediums like TV programmes films etc.... You see schizophrenics seeing messages in things. You see everyday people seeing images in things like clouds etc.... dont discard them right away.

Wait and research, the messages are there....

And yes...... smokers will be more UNLIKELY to catch covid. Some of these nasty parasites ( not virus ) do not like the chemicals or nicotine.

The subconcious is our very own MUSE, our phantom of the opera..... it may be ugly but its trying to HELP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80032363


They dont even put ashtrays in cars any more. Used to be there was one for each passenger in the back seat,two, sometimes three, and one in the front.


Epiclol

The 66 Lincoln had 6 ashtrays, just to be sure everyone had their own.
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WHen I was a kid smoking was heavily promoted to children. There were candy cigarettes and even toys that came with cigarettes. Even doctors recommended smoking.

If you ask me I wouldnt trust the government or the AMA
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WHen I was a kid smoking was heavily promoted to children. There were candy cigarettes and even toys that came with cigarettes. Even doctors recommended smoking.

If you ask me I wouldnt trust the government or the AMA
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SPOT ON
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It has to do with the cykotine storm. Nicotine is actually inhibits inflammation and a over response from your immune system.
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hesright
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It’s true. This was known from data coming out of Wuhan hospitals a year ago.
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Yes they get something worse

Lung cancer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79605617


Actually the stats tell a much different story, so there are less smokers than ever, yet lung cancer rates have gone up, so if smoking was responsible for the majority of lung cancers as they would have you believe as the percentage of the population that smokes went from 67% in 1989, to less than 12% in 2020, why have lung cancer rates doubled in the last decade. You have been bamboozled..
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I smoke and I caught “it”. Two weeks of flu hell. Next





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