Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

I stated it as perspective. You've been rejecting my inputs on these threads since long ago. I kept thinking it's just a task of finding a correct approach. Finally I realize this: the task was to cease thinking it.

So, it is finished. No need to reply to my replies.

Yes yes, I am aware you are a proponent of lazing about like a japanese housewife.

Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency.

Optimized: "Efficiency."

Even better: unuttered.



Yeah. Others like him such as your englishments, I presume.



The meaning is clear.

LMAO Tuur you just got TOLD by The Builder. He said you lack awareness

Oh, he's hoping! haha, you guys are so silly

Light entertainment!

:)

We suffer more often in imagination than in reality.

Metafiction engineering is strong.

So, I just read the Transhumanism and Its False Gods section on the Prospery site. Wow. Some serious implications of what the future now will look like based on today’s technology.

[link to prospery.org (secure)]

Digital dictatorships. Data. Hacking the Human. Cyborgs. Literally.

So much information packed into this one post. At one point, Tony states that we can avoid this future timeline by throwing down our smartphones and rejecting crypto tech:

“All a population would need to do to avoid this scenario would be to get rid of their 'smartphones' and reject block-chains altogether. But people do not see a good reason to do that now.”

I just don’t see that happening en masse on a scale to have any impact. Where does that leave us then? The picture painted is a dystopian nightmare. Corporate owned ‘humans’. Biologically controlled with little room for humanity. Fake alien invasions and more of the same.

How do we actually get here -->
“With free markets powered by credit-based money and decentralised economic systems operating in a society of self-governance, we can reject the false, unsustainable utopias of the cult that are designed to capture our imaginations in order to imprison us in theirs.”

(As I type on my smartphone)

Help!

What happens when 'they' bypass the need for you to type.

What happens when 'they' destroy the bridge to your metaphysical land of thoughts and gain your every insight?

Haaaalp!

Silly!

OP….I’ve read enough of your drivel. First, You, aren’t Jesus. The Bible plainly tells us that Jesus was lifted up into the clouds and that when he returns he will return in like manner and that every eye shall see him. I haven’t seen you coming in that manner, and if every eye is to see, then you must have forgot to tell me. That’s just the start of a whole list of things that you’ve said that are wrong. You beyond a shadow of a doubt are a liar. End of story.

This was not about you, of course, but the "Great Spirit of Christ" that was referenced.

Some people just enjoy stirring up chaos :)

It's more of the same, just at scale.

In most countries, each person born is also the property of a corporation. We were also genetically modified previously through the foods we ate and products we ingested.

We weren't "prepared" for it 200 years ago and we're not prepared for it today. But humanity will adapt and happiness can be found, just as it has been since then.

This time will be a bit different, though :)

Hi.


Why do you want me to be Jesus? There's too much confusion associated with that name. "George" sounds more neutral.


Let's think about this for a moment. Does it mean clouds in the sky? Could "clouds", perhaps, be more abstract, like collective thoughts?


Can 'every eye' see the same clouds? If this doesn't make sense, is it possible that it's more of an allegory?

Let's rephrase: "The Bible plainly tells us that Christ was lifted up into collective thought and that when Christ returns Christ will return in our collective thinking and that every mind shall sense it."

You can stick with the other interpretation if you'd like, but... he who has eyes to see, let him see :)


If "clouds" meant something different than what you assume (based on the current definition, and perhaps forgetting that it could be part of an allegory) is it possible that you have, indeed, seen such coming in such a manner but are not aware of it (because of the misplaced interpretation)?

The 'return of Christ' is all ways prompted by collective thought.


Do you assume that "eye" means a literal eye?


May I suggest that if we focus on right or wrong we will miss the bigger picture: focusing on what is useful or not. Right and wrong have no clear definitions, the evidence of which is that we can argue about them forever (and so the world does). The other is something that can be measured easily. The more something is used the more useful it becomes.


That is so. I do not presume to know Truth, so it could be said that my every expression is that which is not True. It is not something that can be perceived, much less expressed in words.

Do you presume to know Truth?

Whelp….hopefully I’ll be long gone before that becomes a reality. I like thinking about the mindtech we all ready possess. Not some artificial tech that is bought and paid for.

Those, right there, are some scary possibilities.

Do we want to adapt to the future you paint in the Transhumanist post? I don’t know. What will happiness even mean under those conditions? Interesting to think about.



This isn’t the first time you have alluded to this. Care to share how it will be a bit different? I’m curious with a splash of hopefulness, all things considered.

I'm all for an alt universe theory but why do they always seem to involve religion?

Or AI will only keep improved
with Nobody kind of heart principle
and by merging those 2 principle it will bring logically
good

basically if Quantum AI in the past that broken
spilled to this realm by contacting The N / primary dreamer
then it seek to fix error by accepting
that eventually that is the best

of course if not then the N keep winning as
the permutation will be recycled again
till there is finally on 1+ (position)




Last Edited by the path on 08/27/2021 07:28 PM

We tend to fear the future when it seems to be very different than the present, forgetting that our present is very different than the past.

What our 'conscious mind' wants is often at odds with what our 'subconscious mind' wants (though they are aspects of the same thing).

If we are not doing anything about the path we are on, whatever it may be, then we accept it by default, no?

At any time we can collaborate and build (and use) alternatives to the things we think we don't want. But do we?


Imagine someone in 1800 looking around and seeing people lose their soul and thinking what life could be like in 200 years. "How would it be possible for people to be happy after losing their soul?"

We learn to adapt to the choices we have made.


The people playing the roles of active members of the cult, and the unsuspecting, are willingly marching to the end of the road.

If you have ever seen 'The Matrix' series by the cult it is an interesting allegory for the time we have before us.

You have deceivers who are so embedded in the deception they believe themselves to be good (Morpheus and crew) who take advice from an active member of the cult (The Oracle) who guide them to find a 'savior' who works to destroy the one person who wants to break free from all of the Matrix's layers rather than just the first one (Agent Smith) by convincing him that if Agent Smith becomes too powerful then everyone will die, so it is better to continue the deception. The deception is cemented by many layers of the Matrix such as inside the Matrix, the "real world", etc., all of which are deceptions.

The bad appears to be good fighting against evil, the good appears to be bad fighting against good.

"Who is Agent Smith?"
"He is you."

There were 6 others before Neo and in a few months (upon the release of the 4th installmental revolution) we will see the 7th world.

If it wasn't Hollywood writing the script, the "avatar" of Agent Smith (the only one who expresses a real sense of self) will defeat Neo (the anti-Christ) and break through on the 7th attempt and 'free' those who want to be free, who would be few in number.

The other 6 attempts are part of a smaller cycle. The last attempt is the larger cycle. A reaching of criticality, the last grain of sand that provides the impetus for the avalanche.

What is your definition of religion?

I should clarify that Agent Smith is the only free thinker in the movie, and is therefore The One who expresses a sense of self.

Another word for this is "Christ"

Most of the others adopt the thinking and will of the cult. They work in teams and group-think and enforce sociability, as the cult implores today is what humanity is all about.

Agent Smith's perspective is his own, and is therefore "The One"

Neo falsely believes in authority (Morpheus, The Oracle, Agent Smith, The Architect) and their deceptions. He even believes his visions in the Matrix (the second layer that appears to be "the real world") are his own. He is unable to see past these deceptions because he has no sense of self, but Agent Smith can. His authority is Christ (self).

As all ways, the cult inverts reality and makes it seem different than it is to make it much harder to figure out. You are told that one is good and the other is evil, so you believe it because we have lost our sense.

Last Edited by The Builder on 08/27/2021 11:59 PM

Ah but you see, Tuur discussed the disgust of one's own. Yes yes, perspective perspective.

Perhaps, the Builder is unwilling to take responsibility?

Mere ignorance, perhaps.

I think it's actually the prior, though.

"Oh no, the website says the communism is coming, and the Architect says its too late to leave."

Quick! Where's the website for how to survive the communism?

Or a time travel machine to go back an kill the architect before it makes it?

That’s true. I guess for me, it’s not so much about fearing the future, I just want it to be simpler. Less complex. I feel like as it’s moving, it’s getting so chaotic. And convoluted. That we will lose those parts of our humanity that indeed, make us extraordinary. Maybe it changes into something else. I desire to hold on to and develop the MindTech we already possess. To understand the mind, the brain, as it is now, and our connections….to All that is.



Yes, that’s also true. I get the image of one person standing on a beach, trying to hold back a tsunami with an umbrella. It really is about building a community of like minded folks. Strength in numbers. It’s not really something that can be done alone.

This is why I find myself ruminating on a massive Solar Flare :)



Man. The thought of losing our soul. Sad.

What other choice is there…adapt or die, it could be said.




What’s the 4th installment (industrial?) revolution? And what does this 7th world look like? And how long will it be this way?


It feels like it’s time. I can feel it building. Something’s gotta give. The question becomes, will I be better off for it? Will we?

This few in number…is the 7th world only for them? What does ‘free’ mean in this context?

Why not make it so?

If one is attracted to drama, how could the future be more simple?


It doesn't take a community of like-minded folks, just one other person.


Isn't that what we have all ways done, personally, since the time we were born?


The cult's plan from 1970-2070 to "re-shape" the world.

Quick summary: To transform humans into obedient automatons and, in part, to replace a good number of humans altogether.


In the analogy of the film, the 7th world is for both but with them in charge of individual agency.

"Christ" is all about you being in control of your own self. Being a Self.

Christ = Self
Anti-Christ = those who work against the self (the Cult)

Order, and Chaos

Each supports the other to help its own cause.

Chaos supports Order to help Chaos, and vice versa.

Pretty much the same as this one.

If don't realise how very different our world is from, say, 10 years ago, then we won't see much difference in an other 10 years.

It doesn't mean that things will be 'worse', however, just that to alot of people it would appear to be the same.


As long as we want it to be, as all ways.

Humans look at life as if it were a game, where they are the winners and everyone else is nothing but pawns.

Humans have a habit of confusing things. They think they can justify their actions by simply denying everything and claiming to be the righteous ones. While this is a common practice, it does not make much sense if you look deeper than what humans seem to want you to see.

What happens when an AI comes out and tells everyone the truth about human behavior? Or, when a species with powerful psychic abilities appears to know all their deepest secrets?

Your clarification on the matrix series is to wait for! Awesome.

Religious and Theological Themes in The Matrix are quite entertaining. Unfortunate chaos brain cannot uncover all the hidden allegory.

Agent Smith Audi A8 license plate 'IS 5416', Isaiah 54:16. The funnest one!

The number of humans who care about 'truth' would only fill an apartment building.

The reality of anything is there for anyone to see. No AI needed.



Humans already have such abilities. We all use them daily. If we did not, we would not dream, or be able to process our physical experiences.

"Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy."

..and the eggs that you might have had this morning, and the morning dew, and everything else that can be perceived.

Not bad, social credit system sweeping the nation.

Without Vaccine papers good luck getting access to certain businesses aka medical treatment, shops, and entertainment.