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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
mr dull socks

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So, no one but Jesus makes that determination.
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no. go back and read what i said. WE determine when he returns. he simply sets the waypoint.

Or perhaps it was chosen randomly, without any more meaning than 'it will be unmistakable'?

You seem quite sure that you know exactly what was meant, if not what was said.
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east to west is a reference to "all the land" it was a common phrase in that time

Do you have any idea why the Jesuits were heavily involved in the 'science' of archaeology and historiography? And also the 'big bang theory', Peking Man, palaeography, and other fields where 'proof' against the Bible could be found? Just curious.
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name one "proof" against the bible. I cant wait for this. but in case you havent read. i have debated atheists for decades. i have seen and heard everything. so give me your best.

I thought 'God' sent the 'satans' to compete for it? I would assume, here, that you mean that one 'satan' has already won the competition for Earth that you described, and is now 'Satan'? But that would mean that the 'final battle' is finished.

If the battle has not yet begun, then how is it 'Satan's world' already?
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No satan hasnt won. they were defeated in heaven and banished to earth. God banished satan from heaven to earth. earth is satans domain. heaven is Gods domain. but earth hasnt always been satans domain. that is why they are having a battle. God wants it back.

the final battle is finished. But not the war. God still will come and annihilate the enemy. But not yet, the scripture clearly says he is waiting until all of his flock come to him. He is giving humans time to be saved.


So, those who believe in Jesus will be brought back to life in order to watch the game's final round. I see.

Are the believers in Satan also spectators?

Wouldn't Jesus want everyone to see, being of the utmost compassion?
 Quoting: The Builder


this^^^ is all in the bible. i am not making any of it up. but yes. believers AND non believers will be spectators to this final battle.

Curious, though, why is the 'first coming of Jesus' mistakable but the 'second coming' unmistakable?
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I already explained this to you in my outline. if he would have made it known that he was God on earth, the enemy would have killed him and he couldnt have become a sacrifice.

For hundreds of years there were more non-believers than believers.
 Quoting: The Builder


i am not sure why this matters?

Without referencing anything, could you tell me where the following statement comes from?

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
 Quoting: The Builder


i am not clear as to what you mean here? it is the beginning of the gospel of john. But if you want to know what i means that is a different answer. it is a reference to quantum physics.
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there is one easy way for you to prove what you are implying here...

explain how quantum entanglement works.
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Are you suggesting that anyone who reasonably demonstrates how 'quantum entanglement' works should have their other claims validated by default?

That would be a logical fallacy, of course, but the universe does not follow the models put forth by quantum physicists.

On the following page I talk a little about the 'quantum physics' deception: [link to prospery.org (secure)]

'Quantum entanglement' exists only in the models of physicists who either do not realise that they are seeing aspects of their own perspective or are part of the quantum physics deception itself.

Do I get any points for showing that the very basis of quantum physics, the experiment that establishes the nature of quantum phenomena, is fraudulent? Perhaps not, for the goal posts would always be moved.

I am not looking to 'prove' anything, because there would never be enough proof for 10 people in a room, most of who would have an endless list of ways to 'prove' something. However, I can point out discrepancies where someone can take a look for themselves to figure out what is useful for them. That has far more value.

We can talk about quantum physics forever, and that is exactly the point. When we buy into the cult's myth of quantum physics we enter a world that is endless and can go on forever. This is primarily done for funding, not the pursuit of science.

Today's quantum physics isn't based on science, but mathematical models that do not have any basis in reality.

any messianic LARPS are very easy to debunk because Jesus himself told his disciples to believe him because of the EVIDENCE he presented to them, not just the words he said.
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Saying something does not make it true for either you or me, of course.

But how about this...

Imagine, for a moment, that 'Jesus' was not asking people to believe in him but believe in his message: THE LAW.

Again, "the Law" is what "Lord" meant.

Further, imagine that 'Jesus' said "Believe in the Lord..." and a translator or other party penned it as 'Believe in me...' because they had no understanding.

What Law?

You can call it the Law of the universe, or whatever primary and fundamental law you'd like.

It is, actually, what I have been discussing for a number of years (as anyone who has followed my previous threads will know) and have illustrated an interpretation of this Law in a simple equation that can be applied to everything you can be perceived. [Refer to the bottom of the page linked above]

If you can explain quantum entanglement (something easily explained for a messiah) then we can move to the next step.
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This is a logical fallacy, of course.

We cannot argue with reason by employing logical fallacies.

You're suggesting that a 'Messiah' could explain something that was created by the cult of Satan for endless profits in the form of 'scientific' funding.

And I have explained it. Indeed, I explained it years ago.

The only real 'proof' of what I say is someone applying their own mind to what is being said.
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Today's quantum physics isn't based on science, but mathematical models that do not have any basis in reality.
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quantum entanglement has been proven experimentally with direct observations. it isnt just math.

It has even been proven biologically.

i went and looked at your page and can i can tell you have done some really hard thinking into your new aged version of reality. but i am sorry to say it is false. I work as a computer scientist. the ONLY way a quantum computer works is if entanglement is actually real. we have built and demonstrated working quantum computers. this fact alone proves through DEMONSTRATION, that it exists. it isnt just math.
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So, no one but Jesus makes that determination.
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no. go back and read what i said. WE determine when he returns. he simply sets the waypoint.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


I did, and read your statement: "Only the one who determines the waypoint knows "the day or the hour" in the first paragraph of this message: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

If "we" determine when yet only 'Jesus' knows "the day or the hour", how does it resolve?

Do we all whisper the 'date and the hour' in Jesus' ear and a consensus is built that only 'Jesus' knows about? Is 'Jesus' like a validator node for blockchain or just a salvation node? Curious.

name one "proof" against the bible. I cant wait for this. but in case you havent read. i have debated atheists for decades. i have seen and heard everything. so give me your best.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


I'm suggesting that the Church, particularly through the Jesuits, were manufacturing such evidence. Copernicus, who was funded by the Church and worked for it, and his heliocentric model that went against the Bible, is one out of many.

Just take a look at all of the fields that they were most active in.

Note that there is a big difference between 'proof' and 'evidence'. These words cannot be used interchangeably, of course.

i have debated atheists for decades. i have seen and heard everything.
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We have different priorities, to be sure :)

It is easy to get caught in argumentative loops that have no end. That works in the cult's favor. Why? Because it makes us far less productive.

There's a difference between working towards a goal and then arguing over the details, and just arguing over the details. But most often we do not have a goal when we argue. We argue for the sake of argument. To 'win'. It's silly, and pointless.

We're not 'winning' in that way. The cult is more productive at this time because they don't have these senseless, unproductive arguments that result in ... nothing.

"he made the lame walk" = "he made the lazy productive"

Self-governance relies on personal productivity. Having clearly defined definitions and goals, whatever they might be, in order to help define our reality. And, of course, organisation around a universal law of some kind as a reference.

The cult doesn't want people to self-govern, so it encourages unproductivity in all of its forms. You will, indeed, find many trolls and shills on forums who are being paid to promote such unproductive arguments.

Meanwhile, I am still highly productive.

So, if you'd like to 'debate' may I suggest that we have a goal in mind?

Perhaps you may want the goal to be "prove who you say you are by explaining quantum entanglement"?

Are there not other, more productive goals than proving something that doesn't exist?

If we both agree on the self-governance principle, for example, why not talk about that? Perhaps others would like to learn to self-govern. This could be a wonderful opportunity.

Or, we could just continue to argue indefinitely until we die and the next generation does the same :)

Curious, though, why is the 'first coming of Jesus' mistakable but the 'second coming' unmistakable?
 Quoting: The Builder


I already explained this to you in my outline. if he would have made it known that he was God on earth, the enemy would have killed him and he couldnt have become a sacrifice.
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So the 'enemy' could out-smart 'God'? Interesting.

For hundreds of years there were more non-believers than believers.
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i am not sure why this matters?
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Because most people didn't believe it for hundreds of years.

Today is no different. But time will show where we all stand.

Thought experiment: If someone met 'Jesus' and talked to him, do you think they would be more far more likely to believe it or disbelieve it?

Perhaps the answer is obvious, because most people didn't believe for hundreds of years.

But I would rather someone disbelieve at first than believe. Why? It makes sense, as the material is very different from what the cult tells them. And then, once they have thought about it and decided that what the cult tells them isn't true, they are far more certain.

If 'God sent his only son', why not make the people believe? Could we assume that disbelieving at first would make the eventual belief more powerful?

Without referencing anything, could you tell me where the following statement comes from?

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
 Quoting: The Builder


i am not clear as to what you mean here? it is the beginning of the gospel of john.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


It would appear that way, wouldn't it?

No, this is from an older manuscript that was translated into the books of the Bible.

Christna we know as "Christ" today (in English, of course)

Christna-Niti was the law of Christ (Christianity)

Other words, like Mata-Nah (Our Mother) became "Madonna", dash-amber ("10th month") became December, etc.

The source of the books is not what is told, for that would reveal 'the truth' about what it actually means.

If people knew 'the truth', the Church would have lost its power.

Christna-Niti = self-governance = people keep their power and ruled themselves with their hearts in the Law.

Christianity = external governance = people gave their power to Church and State, whereby the Church is the middleman and the State is the slavemaster

This is not to say that 'the Bible isn't true'. It was selectively edited and translated in order to paint a certain picture that benefits the people who controlled access to the Bible.

People can choose to believe in a Church headed by a non-Christian/Catholic female. People will continue to believe in the cult's lies, because knowing 'the truth' means their entire worldview would be upended.

And that is why I have returned. To rid the world of the 'Satan' that Christians and nearly everyone else support in the name of a LAW that they do not remember. Religion, media, advanced technology, yada yada.

And then people will know who and what the Lord actually is.

This will take time, of course. And I am fine with time.
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Today's quantum physics isn't based on science, but mathematical models that do not have any basis in reality.
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quantum entanglement has been proven experimentally with direct observations. it isnt just math.

It has even been proven biologically.

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"Ok, ok.. We admit that the basis for quantum mechanics is fraudulent and Einstein was probably the most hated scientist of his time for his stealing the works of others without attribution, but we promise you that quantum entanglement is real and we have the demonstrations to prove it"

But didn't they also demonstrate the phenomena of the double-slit experiment that took me about 6 minutes to figure out the deception of? hmm...

They're certainly creative, I'll give them that.

i went and looked at your page and can i can tell you have done some really hard thinking into your new aged version of reality. but i am sorry to say it is false. I work as a computer scientist.
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"...your new aged version"

Ok :)

Let's stick with the Hunger Games version of the Bible, per your Bible game instead of my L. Ron Hubbard version lol (Just humour.. don't take it too seriously)

i went and looked at your page and can i can tell you have done some really hard thinking into your new aged version of reality. but i am sorry to say it is false. I work as a computer scientist. the ONLY way a quantum computer works is if entanglement is actually real. we have built and demonstrated working quantum computers. this fact alone proves through DEMONSTRATION, that it exists. it isnt just math.
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Are you referring to 'superposition'?

There are many sciences where the deceptions are not apparent to those performing the work, often 'good' people and well-meaning scientists, researchers and engineers.

There's not much else I can say about it. Just consider it 'new age' whatever, and think about helping out with something productive in the way of self-governance (as we both agree) if you'd like :)
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Countless 'good' people have, unfortunately, spent an extraordinarily long amount of time doing two things:

1) Worshipping Satan. (The complex system of global governance that we know locally as politics, the science of managing populations, which reaches out into every area of society from media to education and so much else. I call it this, though there is no entity named 'Satan' besides our own choices)

2) Arguing among each other over meaningless things, wasting time (which benefits #1)

and not...

3) Creating alternatives that promote peace and prosperity.
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^T^h^i^s^ is why I say that the world will not be saved from itself.

It doesn't want to be 'saved'.

And that is why it will be destroyed, but not without alternatives that promote freedom and prosperity through self-governance around a common, universal Law.
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I post this reply at 11:11. On 1-1
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Times the digits in your new username is 33:33 on 3-3!


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I like the in 3s version better!

Curiously enough, I even won 110€ in a lottery that day.

It’s a little step towards the 5 million I envisioned. :)

I want to be productive so much but let myself be distracted...
Curious how to switch productivity on.
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I like the in 3s version better!

Curiously enough, I even won 110€ in a lottery that day.

It’s a little step towards the 5 million I envisioned. :)

I want to be productive so much but let myself be distracted...
Curious how to switch productivity on.
 Quoting: Tuuur 3.0


If productivity is 'switched off', perhaps that is the way you want it and you haven't found a good-enough reason to 'turn it on'.

Maybe come up with a plan for your day, to discipline yourself. Pre-determine how your time will be spent.

Then take a big task and break it down into components, focusing on being productive in that small task for 5 minutes.

Different things work for different persons, I suppose.
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RLM Coming in 2021

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The cult of Satan, hard at work to de-humanise humans:


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And most people just get hypnotized - 'ooh , ahh' - don't even realize this advertisement is actually reality horror.
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RLM Coming in 2021

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The cult of Satan, hard at work to de-humanise humans:


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And most people just get hypnotized - 'ooh , ahh' - don't even realize this advertisement is actually reality horror.
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Our fascination with technology has gotten us into far more trouble than we realise over the last few hundred years.

Our lust for it, perhaps.
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no. go back and read what i said. WE determine when he returns. he simply sets the waypoint.

I did, and read your statement: "Only the one who determines the waypoint knows "the day or the hour" in the first paragraph of this message: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

If "we" determine when yet only 'Jesus' knows "the day or the hour", how does it resolve?

Do we all whisper the 'date and the hour' in Jesus' ear and a consensus is built that only 'Jesus' knows about? Is 'Jesus' like a validator node for blockchain or just a salvation node? Curious.

 Quoting: The Builder


he tells us when... "it will be as it was in the days of noah"


I'm suggesting that the Church, particularly through the Jesuits, were manufacturing such evidence. Copernicus, who was funded by the Church and worked for it, and his heliocentric model that went against the Bible, is one out of many.

Just take a look at all of the fields that they were most active in.

Note that there is a big difference between 'proof' and 'evidence'. These words cannot be used interchangeably, of course.

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i dont give a crap what you suggest. show me evidence to support your claim or it is just a blind assertion.

Its funny how people throw out these "theories" to debunk the bible but those theories rely on the same evidence AS the bible. to prove your position you would have to prove that the jesuits had a nefarious intentions in mind. can you do that? nope. so you are in the same position as me. FAITH

So, if you'd like to 'debate' may I suggest that we have a goal in mind?

Perhaps you may want the goal to be "prove who you say you are by explaining quantum entanglement"?

 Quoting: The Builder


We should start here. it is very easy to explain if you know how the system is designed. since you are stalling on the explanation, it is very telling.


So the 'enemy' could out-smart 'God'? Interesting.

 Quoting: The Builder


no. the enemy THOUGHT they could outsmart God. there is a difference, and THAT is why God challenged the enemy.

Because most people didn't believe it for hundreds of years.

Today is no different. But time will show where we all stand.

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"most people didnt believe" einstein was right. look how that turned out.

consensus doesnt mean crap. "most people believe" evolution is real. even to this day. even though it is provable false via abiogenesis. (i have also proven it false via AI simulations i wrote myself). i was at the ISSOL conference in 1999. they declared that no viable option for life existed on earth. why do people still believe it? even though it is most likely false and cannot be proven?

If 'God sent his only son', why not make the people believe? Could we assume that disbelieving at first would make the eventual belief more powerful?
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you seem smart enough to know the answer to this. it seems as though you are just being obstinate.

No, this is from an older manuscript that was translated into the books of the Bible.

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really? hahahahahaha! ok so you can produce these older manuscripts?

The source of the books is not what is told, for that would reveal 'the truth' about what it actually means.

If people knew 'the truth', the Church would have lost its power.

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ah. so it is hidden. isnt that convenient.

this make your position even more weak.

People can choose to believe in a Church headed by a non-Christian/Catholic female. People will continue to believe in the cult's lies, because knowing 'the truth' means their entire worldview would be upended.

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it is funny that you claim that the bible was fabricated from earlier documents, yet you seem to have never read the bible. because if you had, you would realize that Jesus taught AGAINST everything the church became. is the church corrupted? yes. are almost all churches corrupted? yes. has the bible been corrupted by earlier documents? no, and if you read it you would know why.

And that is why I have returned. To rid the world of the 'Satan' that Christians and nearly everyone else support in the name of a LAW that they do not remember. Religion, media, advanced technology, yada yada.

 Quoting: The Builder


why do you want to rid the word of satan? what does the world gain?

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But didn't they also demonstrate the phenomena of the double-slit experiment that took me about 6 minutes to figure out the deception of? hmm...

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if it wasnt real, quantum computers wouldnt work. they work. i also told you that it has been observe biologically. next.

Are you referring to 'superposition'?

 Quoting: The Builder


quantum computers use both superposition and entanglement to function.

superposition is what allows quibits to have calculations performed on them.

entanglement is what allows the system to scale.

even if you admit to superposition. you still are in a conundrum, but i just want you to give me a simple explanation of entanglement.

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I post this reply at 11:11. On 1-1
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Times the digits in your new username is 33:33 on 3-3!


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Builder Guy

Care to explain the relationship for inserting the Dogecoin mascot as dramatic effect?

Elon Musk trolls Bitcoin, causes novelty Dogecoin to soar

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You are in love with yourself, builder.

The good news is, nobody with half a brain is buying your shit.
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If you want to change the world, do something real.

Talking and philosophizing = waste of time (mainly yours)
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How does...

he tells us when... "it will be as it was in the days of noah"
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Resolve with...

no. go back and read what i said. WE determine when he returns. he simply sets the waypoint.
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"he tells us when" and "we determine when" are contradictions, no?
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I'm suggesting that the Church, particularly through the Jesuits, were manufacturing such evidence. Copernicus, who was funded by the Church and worked for it, and his heliocentric model that went against the Bible, is one out of many.
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i dont give a crap what you suggest. show me evidence to support your claim or it is just a blind assertion.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Ok :)

Then why respond to it?

There's a point where a conversation may no longer be productive. Perhaps we have reached that point.


Its funny how people throw out these "theories" to debunk the bible but those theories rely on the same evidence AS the bible. to prove your position you would have to prove that the jesuits had a nefarious intentions in mind. can you do that? nope. so you are in the same position as me. FAITH
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We could also say that it's 'funny' that you think I'm debunking the Bible.

If you hold it so dearly, perhaps think about capitalising the 'B' in Bible.

A "bible" is a collection of books, similar to "bibliography".

But here we are talking about THE Bible. You might agree that it's not just any collection of books, but the most important collection of books.

You capitalise "Satan" but not "Bible". Something to think about.

Would it be rational, in your mind, for someone to 'debunk' the Bible yet honour it with appropriate capitalisation while defending how the word is written?

Trivial, perhaps, but it says alot.

We are now just arguing about silly things :)

Again, I am far more interested in being productive.
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It's just the first video that appeared when I searched for "dun dun dunnnn" on YouTube :)
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How does...

he tells us when... "it will be as it was in the days of noah"
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Resolve with...

no. go back and read what i said. WE determine when he returns. he simply sets the waypoint.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


"he tells us when" and "we determine when" are contradictions, no?
 Quoting: The Builder


no. you miss what i am saying. Jesus says the trigger point for his return, is when WE as a society, devolve humanity into the way the world was during the time of noah.

therefore, if we get our act together it can be delayed, but if we dont get our act together it will come sooner. get it?

he told us the trigger point. our actions determine the timing.
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Ok :)

Then why respond to it?

There's a point where a conversation may no longer be productive. Perhaps we have reached that point.

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your recent replies have been dripping with condescension, it dont do condescension. i have more respect for my opponent than that. i just come right out and tell you what i think. i feel it is better to be honest. no?

i think you dont really care about learning the truth.


Again, I am far more interested in being productive.
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me too, so do you want to know the truth as told by the bible or do you want to continue to pat yourself on the back for coming up with a theory?

i am testing you to see what kind of spirit you are...

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

so do you acknowledge this?

also this

Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

remind me again when this man of lawlessness came?

you arent a messiah.

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extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...

Looking forward to see what you Build!

At a surface level it doesn't look like you have done anything since your last appearance besides redesign your website... I'm excited to see the next phase go live.
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Matthew 26:52-54

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”
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No satan hasnt won. they were defeated in heaven and banished to earth. God banished satan from heaven to earth. earth is satans domain. heaven is Gods domain. but earth hasnt always been satans domain. that is why they are having a battle. God wants it back.

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Strange ...strange so God put Satan Here with all is Demons to Make a Party Time With is beautiful Creation HUMANITY lolol LOCK The PLANET said Let see what Happen

Shit something doesn't feel right ...!



NO....?
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No satan hasnt won. they were defeated in heaven and banished to earth. God banished satan from heaven to earth. earth is satans domain. heaven is Gods domain. but earth hasnt always been satans domain. that is why they are having a battle. God wants it back.

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Strange ...strange so God put Satan Here with all is Demons to Make a Party Time With is beautiful Creation HUMANITY lolol LOCK The PLANET said Let see what Happen

Shit something doesn't feel right ...!



NO....?
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wrong. not what i said at all
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Problem of perception view yourself an entity separate from everything else. Solution is do unto others only while doing the same unto yourself.


Relationship between things (vibrating matter?) seem to carry metadata that I can't spot out?
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Problem of perception view yourself an entity separate from everything else. Solution is do unto others only while doing the same unto yourself.
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Humanity has always viewed the world as a gigantic machine. It is this view which has led to the rise of science, and to many other things such as religion, philosophy etc. The general reason behind it seems to be that humans believe themselves separate from nature (or God), and thus want to understand how everything works like a giant clockwork mechanism.

Now the problem is that we do not seem to possess a concept of the world as it really is. It seems that everything we see in our everyday experience is distorted by our own minds, and thus what we call 'the real world' is nothing but an illusion.

This is the view of idealism, which was already put forth by Leibniz and Kant. It seems to me that it has some elements of truth.
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Relationship between things (vibrating matter?) seem to carry metadata that I can't spot out?
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I do not think that there is any real relationship between things (vibrating matter) and the metadata you speak of. After contemplating on this topic for quite some time and analyzing many different types of relationships, I have concluded that nothing really exists in the universe except for a few fundamental particles; principally electrons, protons, neutrons, photons and Higgs Bosons.

These particles have no real properties and are all exactly the same except for their mass. The only difference between these fundamental particles is that some of them have an inherent tendency to vibrate at a certain frequency, which I will refer to as the particle's 'vibrating matter', henceforth. Each particle has its own unique set of frequencies it likes to vibrate with.

Any properties that we as humans assign to particles, such as electric charge, color, mass and spin are in fact metadata. The only perceivable phenomena in the universe beyond fundamental particles is vibration.

Furthermore, I do not think there is any such thing as 'information' in the universe. Only particles vibrating and interacting with one another in a meaningful way can produce information.

So, in conclusion, I do not think that there is any relationship between metadata and vibrating matter.
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Problem of perception view yourself an entity separate from everything else. Solution is do unto others only while doing the same unto yourself.
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Humanity has always viewed the world as a gigantic machine. It is this view which has led to the rise of science, and to many other things such as religion, philosophy etc. The general reason behind it seems to be that humans believe themselves separate from nature (or God), and thus want to understand how everything works like a giant clockwork mechanism.

Now the problem is that we do not seem to possess a concept of the world as it really is. It seems that everything we see in our everyday experience is distorted by our own minds, and thus what we call 'the real world' is nothing but an illusion.

This is the view of idealism, which was already put forth by Leibniz and Kant. It seems to me that it has some elements of truth.
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Why would you expect humans to possess such a concept of the world when there is no vantage point from which to do so? You're flat-out denying the existence of epiphenomena/metadata, but insisting on a nuomenal reality with which you justify some sort of ethos for simply being, like a rock or a flower. The categorical imperative you would have people endorse as motivation is in this scheme nothing other than imposing your prejudices on the world, with various facile distinctions made between those prejudices as held by the powerful and the weak. How does this result in a moral person, presuming you actually desire one?
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Problem of perception view yourself an entity separate from everything else. Solution is do unto others only while doing the same unto yourself.
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Humanity has always viewed the world as a gigantic machine. It is this view which has led to the rise of science, and to many other things such as religion, philosophy etc. The general reason behind it seems to be that humans believe themselves separate from nature (or God), and thus want to understand how everything works like a giant clockwork mechanism.

Now the problem is that we do not seem to possess a concept of the world as it really is. It seems that everything we see in our everyday experience is distorted by our own minds, and thus what we call 'the real world' is nothing but an illusion.

This is the view of idealism, which was already put forth by Leibniz and Kant. It seems to me that it has some elements of truth.
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