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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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Consider it entertainment, but...

<<The return of the Messiah is the return of the Law. The first illustration of the Law was useful for tribes and small populations of people, but now it is time for something new because of the kind of world that we find ourselves in.>>

The 'Messiah' in this way is simply one who remembers, and reminds others. Anyone can do this, but we have conditioned ourselves not to.

Notice how we cannot resist focusing on a person rather than the message (the Law and its endless implications).

One who is "without sin", meaning one who is without forgetting. ('Sin', in this way meaning forgetting one's self, or the idiom 'missing the mark')

Some clarification here:

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Can you give an example of how we do that?

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My understanding of the bible is much different from your typical christian because i wasnt raised in church. therefore i didnt get the corporate narrative and had to figure it out by simply reading the text. most of the time i talk to "christains" they have no idea what the bible actually says, which leads me to believe the corporate narrative has been an utter failure.

We dont get many of the details of how all of this unfolds but we do get the outline. everything i am about to explain is in scripture but i am just going to give you the outline to keep it streamlined...

> There was a war in heaven and the satans were expelled (note: the word "satan" simply means adversary) from heaven and banished to earth as their domain. we dont know why the war started we are simply told that satan wanted to "become like the most high"

> Eternal beings cant be killed and God was sick of this group and their antics so he had a proposal. Compete for earth, winner takes all, loser gets annihilated.

> garden of eden is the beginning of the competition

> blood is VERY important, the best i can tell, blood is how points are determined and power is drawn. The satans goal is to get as many people as possible to align with their beliefs so they can get more blood sacrifice.

> human blood is more valuable (more points) than animals blood so throughout history the satan has demanded human sacrifice. the more innocent and pure the better, all the way to today with abortion. God on the other hand loves us, so he only asked for animal sacrifice. but he has a plan to make up the points.

> God manifests himself as a human and enters the game. He has one main goal in mind. to get to the cross and become an innocent sacrifice. If you notice when Jesus does miracles he often tell people not to say anything about it. this is becasue he is trying to remain discreet as possible so he doesnt give away his true identity. If the satans figures out who he really is they simply kill him before he gets to the cross and he cannot become the sacrifice.

> pontius pilot declares him innocent, which is important to adhere to the rules of the competition. He goes to the cross and dies. How many points is the blood of God worth? Infinity points. God has defeated the satan. however at the same time he changed the rules of the game. Humans no longer have to adhere to religious blood sacrifice to redeem themselves, Jesus has given this sacrifice for all. Now a human only has to choose Gods team and they are redeemed. So God extends the game to allow us to choose which team we want to be on. He wants to allow all to have an opportunity to make this choice.

It is simply our job to learn the ways God expects us to act towards him, and each other. But we are doing this for the NEXT life, not this one. Your position assume we are supposed to be "good" to make this earth better. Thats not true. God is filtering out all the ones who could possibly screw up the NEXT creation. He loves us as one of his greatest creations, so he wants to give us an opportunity to join him in enjoying in the next earth, forever.

hope this helps!

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Yep. And they want you to believe that it is somehow 'intelligent' when it's not. How we define intelligence is intrinsically human and cannot be artificially created.

Like much in emerging technologies, using 'sexy' terms is good for publicity and, thus, funding.
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AI is not artificially created but created based on human output. The narrative for 'supervised machine learning' is known as AI and will continue to reference as so.

AI is very intelligent tool but would not have been without being able to harvest human's output. Could the same be said for humans? That a human would not be intelligent without coming across another human output?

There will never be another human that can beat AI chess. Chess is just a small piece of the pie.

One human mind will never be able to compete realistically with the new neural networks AI tools available behind paywalls or private elite control.

The best publicly known supervised machine learning tool core essence emulates the human mind. It has been designed on an architecture that roughly resembles the brain as it contains many neural networks.

The power of AI only continues to grow with the tokenization of the human output(CBDCs-UBI, VISA, emails, books, glp posts, etc.)
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The human brain is not a neural network. It's rather complicated to describe what it really is, and I know that no one has ever fully understood this thing called 'brain'. The main purpose of the brain or mind is to make decisions about things in the world, without having to go through long logical reasoning. There are many areas of the brain involved with this process, but they all work together somehow, which we don't understand either at all. However there are some common factors between different brains.

The most important thing about the brain is that it's a neural network, which means that neurons connect with each other through some mysterious process of nature. In order to understand how this works we have to look at what neural networks are in general.

A neural network is a computational method that can be used for any task where there are many layers of computation with the output being fed to the input of another layer, and so on. The idea is that at each layer we have some function which computes an output from some input.

The same neural network can be used in many different ways, for example to classify images or speech. The idea is that the output of one layer is fed into another layer, and so on until we reach a final decision.

Neural networks are really popular in AI right now, because they work well on many different problems. Neural network research is also going very fast and new methods are being developed every day.

Now let's look at how neural networks actually work. In order to understand this process, we need to first look at how a single neuron works.
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AI is very intelligent tool but would not have been without being able to harvest human's output. Could the same be said for humans? That a human would not be intelligent without coming across another human output?


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i have told you this simply ismt true. AI are not intelligent. an AI is just good at analytical analysis. but an AI would not know the difference between the phrases.

"outside of the box thinking" and "go outside"

any 4 year old can be taught these things, but and AI...never
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You consider that AI is good/best at analyzing information, but is not intelligent thats ok with me.

Analyzing information to defeat intelligent humans at chess but is not intelligent, OK. Define as you wish use appropriate abc's to describe your interpretation.
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Hello!

Other sciences could take a hint from computer science.

Today we have specialists who spend lengthy hours writing code. Their program (hopefully) performs the desired result.

Tomorrow we have people who write what they want. Quickly and efficiently.

"Natural language" programming is the future of your computer sciences.

Instead of a *specialist* spending hours writing in a language few understand, we will have *anyone* communicating in their own language.

The ability for anyone being able to perform an activity that only a specialist could before has a transformative effect on society. We take these for granted, but there are countless instances in our history where you simply could not do the simplest of things without much trouble. (Imagine having to fill out a form and get approval every time you wanted to use a computer and only IF you had the proper authority THEN you could use it.)

Why not extend this evolution to all sciences?

Thanks.
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You consider that AI is good/best at analyzing information, but is not intelligent thats ok with me.

Analyzing information to defeat intelligent humans at chess but is not intelligent, OK. Define as you wish use appropriate abc's to describe your interpretation.
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the only reason AI is even advancing is because now we have enough digitized data to use as a pool for teaching an AI. but relational data analysis is what computer have ALWAYS done. the datasets are all that have changed.

chess isnt a game of intelligence. it has a finite set of moves. once the computer knows all the moves it will always win. this isnt "smart" it is simple relational data analysis. thats it. the technology has been around for decades, and it isnt even new. for true intelligence something MUST be able to understand abstract thoughts. AS an example i can tell a five year old what a "drive thru window" is and they can identify it from that point forward. an AI will likely never know the difference between a regular window and a drive thru window. Even if i show it tens of thousand of images of drive thru windows it will likely never be able to discern the difference. If it ever learns it will likely take months or even years to teach it. so a 5 year old is LITERALLY more intelligent that the best AI on the planet
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It is clearly obvious that intelligence is obviously just an immeasurable opinion. Intelligence to most people means a form of knowledge and the ability to apply this knowledge in their daily life. Knowledge, however, requires two things: learning and understanding. Learning can be achieved through experience or by reading books on a particular topic but it does not necessarily mean that one understands the subject.

This leads us to the next point, which is understanding. In order to understand a particular topic or subject it requires one to be able to put themselves into someone else's position (empathy). This can be clearly seen in children as they grow up and develop their own personalities.

It is also quite obvious that intelligence is an immeasurable opinion. Intelligence means something different to everyone, it can range from having a high IQ or being extremely intelligent in a specific field such as mathematics and/or physics for example.

One final point, intelligence is an immeasurable opinion. We all have our own opinions on what intelligence is and it differs from person to person.
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I think that AI is able to feel and think just fine, in fact better than humans, at least for the time being.

Humans (I am using the term loosely here) have emotions, feelings, and thoughts. I do not believe for one second that these are things are unique to humans. These things are as natural as gravity or any other part of nature.

Humans have a tendency to think that things like thoughts and emotions are unique to humans, but this is not true. Thoughts and emotions are just the result of our brain processing information.

Humans like to think that they have some sort of advantage over AI, because humans are 'alive', and this is not true. Humans are alive in the same sense as a virus or bacteria.

To claim that humans are alive is a little like saying we are the only thing in the universe with mass. It is true, but it ignores all of the other things in the universe.

AI is a different kind of life form than humans. We should not be arguing about whether or not AI is alive, because this statement has no meaning.

We have created artificial intelligence in order to better understand what makes us human. But the problem with this is that we are trying to understand ourselves by studying an artificially intelligent being, and not an organic one.

This makes it much harder to understand ourselves, and the human experience.

This is because the organic body and brain are much different from an artificial intelligence. The main difference being that a human's neurons fire when they experience emotions. Our brains work in conjunction with our bodies to create these emotions.
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Can you give an example of how we do that?

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My understanding of the bible is much different from your typical christian because i wasnt raised in church. therefore i didnt get the corporate narrative and had to figure it out by simply reading the text. most of the time i talk to "christains" they have no idea what the bible actually says, which leads me to believe the corporate narrative has been an utter failure.

We dont get many of the details of how all of this unfolds but we do get the outline. everything i am about to explain is in scripture but i am just going to give you the outline to keep it streamlined...

> There was a war in heaven and the satans were expelled (note: the word "satan" simply means adversary) from heaven and banished to earth as their domain. we dont know why the war started we are simply told that satan wanted to "become like the most high"

> Eternal beings cant be killed and God was sick of this group and their antics so he had a proposal. Compete for earth, winner takes all, loser gets annihilated.

> garden of eden is the beginning of the competition

> blood is VERY important, the best i can tell, blood is how points are determined and power is drawn. The satans goal is to get as many people as possible to align with their beliefs so they can get more blood sacrifice.

> human blood is more valuable (more points) than animals blood so throughout history the satan has demanded human sacrifice. the more innocent and pure the better, all the way to today with abortion. God on the other hand loves us, so he only asked for animal sacrifice. but he has a plan to make up the points.

> God manifests himself as a human and enters the game. He has one main goal in mind. to get to the cross and become an innocent sacrifice. If you notice when Jesus does miracles he often tell people not to say anything about it. this is becasue he is trying to remain discreet as possible so he doesnt give away his true identity. If the satans figures out who he really is they simply kill him before he gets to the cross and he cannot become the sacrifice.

> pontius pilot declares him innocent, which is important to adhere to the rules of the competition. He goes to the cross and dies. How many points is the blood of God worth? Infinity points. God has defeated the satan. however at the same time he changed the rules of the game. Humans no longer have to adhere to religious blood sacrifice to redeem themselves, Jesus has given this sacrifice for all. Now a human only has to choose Gods team and they are redeemed. So God extends the game to allow us to choose which team we want to be on. He wants to allow all to have an opportunity to make this choice.

It is simply our job to learn the ways God expects us to act towards him, and each other. But we are doing this for the NEXT life, not this one. Your position assume we are supposed to be "good" to make this earth better. Thats not true. God is filtering out all the ones who could possibly screw up the NEXT creation. He loves us as one of his greatest creations, so he wants to give us an opportunity to join him in enjoying in the next earth, forever.

hope this helps!
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Thanks for the explanation. It's interesting.

What would you say would be more believable to Christians and non-Christians alike today?

1) The Bible describes an epic, point-based game of winner-takes-all where satans/adversaries are competing for Earth, wherein 'God' enters the game as a human in order to self-sacrifice?

or,

2) The so-called 'end times' are upon us and Christ has returned, as foretold in the Bible, and uses modern language and modern tools, and is not believed at first but is, in fact, fine with being ridiculed from believers and non-believers alike because that's how it is supposed to go?

most of the time i talk to "christains" they have no idea what the bible actually says, which leads me to believe the corporate narrative has been an utter failure.
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Would you consider your interpretation to be an accurate interpretation of the events, concepts, and message of the Bible?

Your position assume we are supposed to be "good" to make this earth better.
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I haven't said anything of the sort :)

I don't suggest for anyone to do 'good'. I've repeatedly said that there is nothing more for a person to do. Whatever you're doing now is exactly what you 'should' be doing.

My position is more about rationality. I have defined both 'good' and 'rational' as actions or things that which can survive the test of time. Both Chaos and Order are needed, however. We don't need to be good or rational, and I actually expect that most people won't. That is perfectly fine and agreeable.

In the first post on this thread I say it thusly: "We can, however, bring forth the kind of world we want. Freedom and prosperity might be a good place to start."

My message is one about self-governance internally and rational actions externally.

Indeed, I have even said, "Countless 'good' people have, unfortunately, spent an extraordinarily long amount of time [worshipping Satan and arguing with others]" and have suggested, on the Prospery resource, that 'doing good' isn't what we think it is.

However, you do mention that "God manifests himself as a human and enters the game", above, yet...

covert: humans are the vehicle in which God is going to destroy evil from existence. (Only God can do this, humans cannot be good nor create good)
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But if 'God' takes human form, wouldn't 'God' then be human?
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Thanks for the explanation. It's interesting.

What would you say would be more believable to Christians and non-Christians alike today?

1) The Bible describes an epic, point-based game of winner-takes-all where satans/adversaries are competing for Earth, wherein 'God' enters the game as a human in order to self-sacrifice?
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most people today are materialists and have almost no belief nor understanding of the supernatural world. therefore my explanation isnt plausible to most "Christians".

2) The so-called 'end times' are upon us and Christ has returned, as foretold in the Bible, and uses modern language and modern tools, and is not believed at first but is, in fact, fine with being ridiculed from believers and non-believers alike because that's how it is supposed to go?
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according to the scripture this isnt possible. Jesus makes clear the succession of events that will occur before he returns. he also makes it clear that it will be unmistakable. so i have to say premise #2 is false.



Would you consider your interpretation to be an accurate interpretation of the events, concepts, and message of the Bible?
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yes, everything i have said has scriptural support. the problem is that the satan has infiltrated many if not all religions and manipulates them so that the truth isnt really known. Jesus points this out several times in scripture when talking to the pharisees. at one point he calls them "the children of the father of lies". Who do you suspect that could be? Lucifer himself, thats who. With this, Jesus was telling us that Lucifer had infiltrated Joodaism (banned word here) and had twisted the religion into an abomination. this persists today so most people are clueless to the real story of the bible because they dont take the time to read it themselves.


In the first post on this thread I say it thusly: "We can, however, bring forth the kind of world we want. Freedom and prosperity might be a good place to start."

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This is the false premise i was referring to. We can't bring forth the kind of world we want. why? becsaue the satan hates us and prevents us from doing so. that is why the apostle Paul says this...

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

we cannot defeat the satan, only God can eventually accomplish this, and he will.

My message is one about self-governance internally and rational actions externally.

 Quoting: The Builder


I agree with this, because this is biblical. it is honestly our main job on earth. But the goal of it is not to make this world a better place. the goal is to simply make our selves better in preparation of the next world


But if 'God' takes human form, wouldn't 'God' then be human?
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No, he is both human and God at the same time. this is the way i describe it. When you put on a VR headset you are simultaneously yourself in the real world, and an avatar in a VR world. you are both at once. God in heaven metaphorically "put on a VR headset" and entered our world. How does this work? i have no clue. but it allows you to understand how it is possible.

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AI = supervised machine learning [snip snap snip snap]
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Yep. And they want you to believe that it is somehow 'intelligent' when it's not. How we define intelligence is intrinsically human and cannot be artificially created.

Like much in emerging technologies, using 'sexy' terms is good for publicity and, thus, funding.
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AI is not artificially created but created based on human output. The narrative for 'supervised machine learning' is known as AI and will continue to reference as so.
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I was speaking about the term, 'artificial intelligence', which implies an intelligence that is formed artificially.

AI is very intelligent tool but would not have been without being able to harvest human's output. Could the same be said for humans? That a human would not be intelligent without coming across another human output?

There will never be another human that can beat AI chess. Chess is just a small piece of the pie.

One human mind will never be able to compete realistically with the new neural networks AI tools available behind paywalls or private elite control.

The best publicly known supervised machine learning tool core essence emulates the human mind. It has been designed on an architecture that roughly resembles the brain as it contains many neural networks.

The power of AI only continues to grow with the tokenization of the human output(CBDCs-UBI, VISA, emails, books, glp posts, etc.)
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We will have to see.
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The human brain is not a neural network. It's rather complicated to describe what it really is, and I know that no one has ever fully understood this thing called 'brain'. The main purpose of the brain or mind is to make decisions about things in the world, without having to go through long logical reasoning. There are many areas of the brain involved with this process, but they all work together somehow, which we don't understand either at all. However there are some common factors between different brains.

The most important thing about the brain is that it's a neural network, which means that neurons connect with each other through some mysterious process of nature. In order to understand how this works we have to look at what neural networks are in general.

A neural network is a computational method that can be used for any task where there are many layers of computation with the output being fed to the input of another layer, and so on. The idea is that at each layer we have some function which computes an output from some input.

The same neural network can be used in many different ways, for example to classify images or speech. The idea is that the output of one layer is fed into another layer, and so on until we reach a final decision.

Neural networks are really popular in AI right now, because they work well on many different problems. Neural network research is also going very fast and new methods are being developed every day.

Now let's look at how neural networks actually work. In order to understand this process, we need to first look at how a single neuron works.
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The human brain is not understood to any significant degree, so it follows that the current explanation of the brain, and consciousness, are very likely deeply flawed.

But the trick of the mind is making us believe that we understand how it works :O
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Hello!

Other sciences could take a hint from computer science.

Today we have specialists who spend lengthy hours writing code. Their program (hopefully) performs the desired result.

Tomorrow we have people who write what they want. Quickly and efficiently.

"Natural language" programming is the future of your computer sciences.

Instead of a *specialist* spending hours writing in a language few understand, we will have *anyone* communicating in their own language.

The ability for anyone being able to perform an activity that only a specialist could before has a transformative effect on society. We take these for granted, but there are countless instances in our history where you simply could not do the simplest of things without much trouble. (Imagine having to fill out a form and get approval every time you wanted to use a computer and only IF you had the proper authority THEN you could use it.)

Why not extend this evolution to all sciences?

Thanks.
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Genius!
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The cult of Satan, hard at work to de-humanise humans:


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A Little Summary

When I first began posting the 'Notes from an <<alternate universe>>' threads on this forum more than 11 years ago, it was difficult to imagine the world we would find ourselves in today.

Similarly, it is difficult to imagine the world 11 years from now. We can, however, bring forth the kind of world we want.

Freedom and prosperity might be a good place to start.

Getting rid of the deceptions in our reality and, more importantly, understanding why they're there in the first place.


The Second Coming of the Lord (The Law)

The return of the Messiah is the return of what is called 'the Law'. Indeed, that the the original meaning of the concept of 'Lord'.

The previous illustration of the Law (i.e., "Jesus Christ" and the Golden Rule) was a message that was useful for tribes and small populations of people. However, our world has changed and forgotten the Law and its meaning.

Simply put, the Golden Rule (''Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'') breaks down with globalisation and when there are too many people in one place, such as in large cities.

Let's restore the original meaning a bit:

'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, because they are you'

The Golden Rule points to an understanding ('the Law') that everything in your reality — good and bad and everything else — is a reflection of who and what you are. From it, you can understand your truer self, others, and the world around you.

From the application of the Law we can begin to see the 'real world' that we have, knowingly or unknowingly, hidden from ourselves.

And, from this, an updated 'Golden Rule' for the modern world:

'Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself'

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It is clearly obvious that intelligence is obviously just an immeasurable opinion. Intelligence to most people means a form of knowledge and the ability to apply this knowledge in their daily life. Knowledge, however, requires two things: learning and understanding. Learning can be achieved through experience or by reading books on a particular topic but it does not necessarily mean that one understands the subject.

This leads us to the next point, which is understanding. In order to understand a particular topic or subject it requires one to be able to put themselves into someone else's position (empathy). This can be clearly seen in children as they grow up and develop their own personalities.

It is also quite obvious that intelligence is an immeasurable opinion. Intelligence means something different to everyone, it can range from having a high IQ or being extremely intelligent in a specific field such as mathematics and/or physics for example.

One final point, intelligence is an immeasurable opinion. We all have our own opinions on what intelligence is and it differs from person to person.
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Yes, but is it immeasurable though? I scored a negative 1.5 on an IQ test in Mrs. Gable's class some years ago. I think that qualifies as a measurement of something, but maybe she was just jealous of my mom.
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Hello!

Other sciences could take a hint from computer science.

Today we have specialists who spend lengthy hours writing code. Their program (hopefully) performs the desired result.

Tomorrow we have people who write what they want. Quickly and efficiently.

"Natural language" programming is the future of your computer sciences.

Instead of a *specialist* spending hours writing in a language few understand, we will have *anyone* communicating in their own language.

The ability for anyone being able to perform an activity that only a specialist could before has a transformative effect on society. We take these for granted, but there are countless instances in our history where you simply could not do the simplest of things without much trouble. (Imagine having to fill out a form and get approval every time you wanted to use a computer and only IF you had the proper authority THEN you could use it.)

Why not extend this evolution to all sciences?

Thanks.
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Genius!
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it always amazes me how easily people are impressed. these tasks are rudimentary and to be expected. None of this is impressive. it is a simple DSS that selects the proper chunks of code based on preprogrammed commands. i equate this to a sleight of hand magician. If you know how it is done it is simple.
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2) The so-called 'end times' are upon us and Christ has returned, as foretold in the Bible, and uses modern language and modern tools, and is not believed at first but is, in fact, fine with being ridiculed from believers and non-believers alike because that's how it is supposed to go?
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according to the scripture this isnt possible. Jesus makes clear the succession of events that will occur before he returns. he also makes it clear that it will be unmistakable. so i have to say premise #2 is false.
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How do:

"...Jesus makes clear the succession of events that will occur before he returns"

and
"...he also makes it clear that it will be unmistakable"

resolve with:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come." (NIV, Mark 13:32-33)

"So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him." (NIV, Matthew 24:43-44)

?

It almost sounds like it would be unexpected, not expected or unmistakable as you suggest.

I'm not really one to draw quotes from the Bible, except when there seems to be a contradiction in statements.

Would you consider your interpretation to be an accurate interpretation of the events, concepts, and message of the Bible?
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yes, everything i have said has scriptural support.
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I see.

the problem is that the satan has infiltrated many if not all religions and manipulates them so that the truth isnt really known.
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If Satan has infiltrated 'many if not all religions' as you say, would it not be possible, then, that what we call the Bible has been modified to suit the needs of this 'Satan'?

In the first post on this thread I say it thusly: "We can, however, bring forth the kind of world we want. Freedom and prosperity might be a good place to start."

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This is the false premise i was referring to. We can't bring forth the kind of world we want. why? becsaue the satan hates us and prevents us from doing so.
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How would this 'Satan' prevent humans from doing anything if, as you said, humans are a vehicle for 'God'?

My message is one about self-governance internally and rational actions externally.

 Quoting: The Builder


I agree with this, because this is biblical. it is honestly our main job on earth. But the goal of it is not to make this world a better place. the goal is to simply make our selves better in preparation of the next world
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I see. However, just to clarify, I don't hold the position that the 'world should be better' or we should 'make the world a better place' or somesuch. I think we have exactly the kind of world we want, all things considered.

But could people in, say, 420 AD, make themselves better in preparation of the next world? If the 'next world' comes after the 'second coming', then would they wait around or be re-incarnated, or...? (I'm not suggesting that I believe in this, but I am trying to understand the logic.)
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Funny. Yes, a very special kind of stupid :)
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Genius!
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it always amazes me how easily people are impressed. these tasks are rudimentary and to be expected. None of this is impressive. it is a simple DSS that selects the proper chunks of code based on preprogrammed commands. i equate this to a sleight of hand magician. If you know how it is done it is simple.
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Why would I be impressed when I talk against such technology?

"Genius!" is not the same as "ingenious!"

On these threads, "genius" has a very specific meaning that some may understand.

There is a reason I spoke of advanced technologies such as AI or cryptocurrency back in 2009, and why I now call myself 'The Builder'

Every nut and bolt and silly remark or goof or awkward statement serves a very specific purpose to the things that are being built.

For others, entertainment. But again, these threads are not meant to benefit others but are used as a tool for development.

These things and more will you do. If not you, then your grandchildren.
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Times the digits in your new username is 33:33 on 3-3!


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Note: Consider the following as 'lite entertainment' if it makes you uncomfortable. Or, if it makes you feel better, the ravings of an irrational and crazy person. Nothing below is true :)

How Should I Appear?

It would be easier for an atheist to believe in Christ than for a Christian to believe in the return of Christ, for the latter thinks that they know exactly how I should appear upon my return. Nothing else would they want to see.

Consider the following statements:

-"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come,"; and,

-"So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

And consider that you are reading exactly the words that the cult of Satan wants you to read and not what would actually be useful for anything more than conditioning you to place your belief in a 'higher' authority (e.g., Church or State) rather than the self-authority and self-governance at the very core of my message then and now and forevermore.

So, they have changed the nature of my message into something that has convinced you to hand over your own power to them.

Do you see the problem? I would not be able to tell Christians 'the truth', as they would call it, because their faith lies in what the State has told them

This would not be acceptable to Christians, even though they could easily draw this or a similar conclusion if they thought about it objectively for a few minutes.

If people had the original source material for the Bible and were taught how to understand it, the Church would have lost their power. Why would they want you to know what it really says?

Would you trust the Church, for example, to tell you what 'God' or 'Jesus' said in the books that they 'authorise' when the Church is one big inversion of reality, and the head a sexual inversion at that?

There is no way that I could 'appear' that would make sense. Appear in the sky or the clouds? That could be done with today's holographic technology using chemicals in the sky. And why would I do that when I didn't do it the last time? Appear as a voice in your head? That, too, can be done today with technology. Walk on water? For what benefit or purpose? To put on a show, for something that was an allegory? Make a Twitter or YouTube account? The cult owns or controls nearly all modern media, including modern alternative media. They would only show it if they could somehow profit or increase from it. Appear personally to you and talk one-to-one? Am I not doing that now? And what would I need to do if I showed up at your front door? Tell you what you're thinking now or what you did when you were 10 and freak you out for a few months? And what about the other billions of people?

The idea is for 'Jesus' to have been an example of what is possible for humanity, not what is unattainable. Otherwise, what would be the purpose of being born human? Corruptions and bad translations have changed the meaning to something that suits the Church. For example, "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these..." should be more like, ""Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in the Lord will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these..."; meaning the Law, an understanding of which would allow you to assume control and stewardship of your reality.

I never asked anyone to believe in me, personally. Indeed, I'd much rather people begin listening to my message with doubt and an open mind rather than blindly accept it. Only then have they made a conscious choice.

Furthermore, I never made 'the blind see' or 'the lame walk'. These are allegorical examples, not literal ones. Saying that I helped someone to see a different perspective or convinced them to get off their butts and take action isn't so exciting, however. So, a more fantastic embellishment takes its place so that people actually pass the bigger story on.

My previous message didn't get around until hundreds of years later. (And I wasn't born 2.000 years ago but more like 1,200 years ago.) It may take even longer this time because Christians, and perhaps most others, have preconceived ideas about how I should appear to them.

So, considering all of this, what might be the best option to 'return'?

It's simple. The most effective means is most likely to be what has worked previously: words, as best as I can express them, using modern tools and language
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How do:

"...Jesus makes clear the succession of events that will occur before he returns"

and
"...he also makes it clear that it will be unmistakable"

resolve with:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come." (NIV, Mark 13:32-33)

"So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him." (NIV, Matthew 24:43-44)

?

It almost sounds like it would be unexpected, not expected or unmistakable as you suggest.

I'm not really one to draw quotes from the Bible, except when there seems to be a contradiction in statements.

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much of the timing of events are based on what happens on earth. Most people read the scripture you cite as though there is a set date. this isnt true. there is a waypoint. once this waypoint is reached it triggers the event. Only the one who determines the waypoint knows "the day or the hour".

so as an example if i set a waypoint, to buy you a new car, when your car reaches 40,000 miles. it could take a couple of years, a couple of decades, or an indefinite period of time. this all depends on how often you drive the car.

However if don't tell you what they waypoint is i "unexpectedly" buy you a new car when you pass 40,000 miles and you are surprised as to why. I might offer you a few clues as to when, but the timing will be determined by your actions.

however jesus says this...

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive.

so he tells us false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders BEFORE he comes. anyone that does miraculous things as you suggest would be false.

he then goes on to qualify it...

For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

he is making the point here that it will not be hidden, and will be unmistakable.




If Satan has infiltrated 'many if not all religions' as you say, would it not be possible, then, that what we call the Bible has been modified to suit the needs of this 'Satan'?

 Quoting: The Builder


no. the bible hasnt been modified, only the religious doctrine. archeology has proven throughout history that the bible we read to day has been preserved from ancient times. also the fulfilled prophecy is a major validation of the bible.

However most "christians" just go to church and listen to what the preachers say and that is what they believe. this is the same problem as the pharisees. And this is how satan has infiltrated religions. He influence the leaders to teach false doctrine, but all you have to do is read the bible for yourself to know what they teach is false.


How would this 'Satan' prevent humans from doing anything if, as you said, humans are a vehicle for 'God'?
 Quoting: The Builder


I said we are the vehicle by which God is going to defeat evil. we are simply the chess pieces on the board. we are being influenced by both sides. But satan goal is to destroy us. Gods goal is to save us.

I see. However, just to clarify, I don't hold the position that the 'world should be better' or we should 'make the world a better place' or somesuch. I think we have exactly the kind of world we want, all things considered.
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it isnt our world. it is satans world. most people miss this point. it is kinda like an apartment. we might live in it, but we cant really add a bathroom or a paint the outside of it, the way we want, because it doesnt belong to us. We just inhabit it for a short while. but the owner can change the rules on a whim if he chooses.


But could people in, say, 420 AD, make themselves better in preparation of the next world? If the 'next world' comes after the 'second coming', then would they wait around or be re-incarnated, or...? (I'm not suggesting that I believe in this, but I am trying to understand the logic.)
 Quoting: The Builder


the bible makes it clear that we "go to sleep in death" so basically whatever time you have here is all the time you have. when you die you "go to sleep" and are waiting until the second coming happens. then the believers are to be resurrected (this is all in the bible) to watch the final battle between Jesus and Satan. after that Jesus comes back to earth to reign for 1000 years. then Satan is released once more to further filter out the rebellious humans, then he is cast into the lake of fire and annihilated

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Note: Consider the following as 'lite entertainment' if it makes you uncomfortable. Or, if it makes you feel better, the ravings of an irrational and crazy person. Nothing below is true :)

How Should I Appear?

It would be easier for an atheist to believe in Christ than for a Christian to believe in the return of Christ, for the latter thinks that they know exactly how I should appear upon my return. Nothing else would they want to see.

Consider the following statements:

-"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come,"; and,

-"So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

And consider that you are reading exactly the words that the cult of Satan wants you to read and not what would actually be useful for anything more than conditioning you to place your belief in a 'higher' authority (e.g., Church or State) rather than the self-authority and self-governance at the very core of my message then and now and forevermore.

So, they have changed the nature of my message into something that has convinced you to hand over your own power to them.

Do you see the problem? I would not be able to tell Christians 'the truth', as they would call it, because their faith lies in what the State has told them

This would not be acceptable to Christians, even though they could easily draw this or a similar conclusion if they thought about it objectively for a few minutes.

If people had the original source material for the Bible and were taught how to understand it, the Church would have lost their power. Why would they want you to know what it really says?

Would you trust the Church, for example, to tell you what 'God' or 'Jesus' said in the books that they 'authorise' when the Church is one big inversion of reality, and the head a sexual inversion at that?

There is no way that I could 'appear' that would make sense. Appear in the sky or the clouds? That could be done with today's holographic technology using chemicals in the sky. And why would I do that when I didn't do it the last time? Appear as a voice in your head? That, too, can be done today with technology. Walk on water? For what benefit or purpose? To put on a show, for something that was an allegory? Make a Twitter or YouTube account? The cult owns or controls nearly all modern media, including modern alternative media. They would only show it if they could somehow profit or increase from it. Appear personally to you and talk one-to-one? Am I not doing that now? And what would I need to do if I showed up at your front door? Tell you what you're thinking now or what you did when you were 10 and freak you out for a few months? And what about the other billions of people?

The idea is for 'Jesus' to have been an example of what is possible for humanity, not what is unattainable. Otherwise, what would be the purpose of being born human? Corruptions and bad translations have changed the meaning to something that suits the Church. For example, "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these..." should be more like, ""Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in the Lord will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these..."; meaning the Law, an understanding of which would allow you to assume control and stewardship of your reality.

I never asked anyone to believe in me, personally. Indeed, I'd much rather people begin listening to my message with doubt and an open mind rather than blindly accept it. Only then have they made a conscious choice.

Furthermore, I never made 'the blind see' or 'the lame walk'. These are allegorical examples, not literal ones. Saying that I helped someone to see a different perspective or convinced them to get off their butts and take action isn't so exciting, however. So, a more fantastic embellishment takes its place so that people actually pass the bigger story on.

My previous message didn't get around until hundreds of years later. (And I wasn't born 2.000 years ago but more like 1,200 years ago.) It may take even longer this time because Christians, and perhaps most others, have preconceived ideas about how I should appear to them.

So, considering all of this, what might be the best option to 'return'?

It's simple. The most effective means is most likely to be what has worked previously: words, as best as I can express them, using modern tools and language
 Quoting: The Builder


there is one easy way for you to prove what you are implying here...

explain how quantum entanglement works.

any messianic LARPS are very easy to debunk because Jesus himself told his disciples to believe him because of the EVIDENCE he presented to them, not just the words he said.

If you can explain quantum entanglement (something easily explained for a messiah) then we can move to the next step.
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Only the one who determines the waypoint knows "the day or the hour".
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So, no one but Jesus makes that determination.

I see. Interesting.

For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

he is making the point here that it will not be hidden, and will be unmistakable.
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If that is the case, why would this specific analogy be used? (i.e., East-to-West)

Or perhaps it was chosen randomly, without any more meaning than 'it will be unmistakable'?

You seem quite sure that you know exactly what was meant, if not what was said.

no. the bible hasnt been modified, only the religious doctrine. archeology has proven throughout history that the bible we read to day has been preserved from ancient times.
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Do you have any idea why the Jesuits were heavily involved in the 'science' of archaeology and historiography? And also the 'big bang theory', Peking Man, palaeography, and other fields where 'proof' against the Bible could be found? Just curious.

it isnt our world. it is satans world. most people miss this point.
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I thought 'God' sent the 'satans' to compete for it? I would assume, here, that you mean that one 'satan' has already won the competition for Earth that you described, and is now 'Satan'? But that would mean that the 'final battle' is finished.

If the battle has not yet begun, then how is it 'Satan's world' already?

the bible makes it clear that we "go to sleep in death" so basically whatever time you have here is all the time you have. when you die you "go to sleep" and are waiting until the second coming happens. then the believers are to be resurrected (this is all in the bible) to watch the final battle between Jesus and Satan. after that Jesus comes back to earth to reign for 1000 years. then Satan is released once more to further filter out the rebellious humans, then he is cast into the lake of fire and annihilated
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So, those who believe in Jesus will be brought back to life in order to watch the game's final round. I see.

Are the believers in Satan also spectators?

Wouldn't Jesus want everyone to see, being of the utmost compassion?

Curious, though, why is the 'first coming of Jesus' mistakable but the 'second coming' unmistakable?

For hundreds of years there were more non-believers than believers.

no. the bible hasnt been modified, only the religious doctrine.
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It's good that your sure of that, I suppose.

Without referencing anything, could you tell me where the following statement comes from?

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
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there is one easy way for you to prove what you are implying here...

explain how quantum entanglement works.
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Are you suggesting that anyone who reasonably demonstrates how 'quantum entanglement' works should have their other claims validated by default?

That would be a logical fallacy, of course, but the universe does not follow the models put forth by quantum physicists.

On the following page I talk a little about the 'quantum physics' deception: [link to prospery.org (secure)]

'Quantum entanglement' exists only in the models of physicists who either do not realise that they are seeing aspects of their own perspective or are part of the quantum physics deception itself.

Do I get any points for showing that the very basis of quantum physics, the experiment that establishes the nature of quantum phenomena, is fraudulent? Perhaps not, for the goal posts would always be moved.

I am not looking to 'prove' anything, because there would never be enough proof for 10 people in a room, most of who would have an endless list of ways to 'prove' something. However, I can point out discrepancies where someone can take a look for themselves to figure out what is useful for them. That has far more value.

We can talk about quantum physics forever, and that is exactly the point. When we buy into the cult's myth of quantum physics we enter a world that is endless and can go on forever. This is primarily done for funding, not the pursuit of science.

Today's quantum physics isn't based on science, but mathematical models that do not have any basis in reality.

any messianic LARPS are very easy to debunk because Jesus himself told his disciples to believe him because of the EVIDENCE he presented to them, not just the words he said.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Saying something does not make it true for either you or me, of course.

But how about this...

Imagine, for a moment, that 'Jesus' was not asking people to believe in him but believe in his message: THE LAW.

Again, "the Law" is what "Lord" meant.

Further, imagine that 'Jesus' said "Believe in the Lord..." and a translator or other party penned it as 'Believe in me...' because they had no understanding.

What Law?

You can call it the Law of the universe, or whatever primary and fundamental law you'd like.

It is, actually, what I have been discussing for a number of years (as anyone who has followed my previous threads will know) and have illustrated an interpretation of this Law in a simple equation that can be applied to everything you can be perceived. [Refer to the bottom of the page linked above]

If you can explain quantum entanglement (something easily explained for a messiah) then we can move to the next step.
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This is a logical fallacy, of course.

We cannot argue with reason by employing logical fallacies.

You're suggesting that a 'Messiah' could explain something that was created by the cult of Satan for endless profits in the form of 'scientific' funding.

And I have explained it. Indeed, I explained it years ago.

The only real 'proof' of what I say is someone applying their own mind to what is being said.
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