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BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!

 
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According to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey, consciousness is the brain’s energy field. The brain’s electromagnetic energy enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think.

....McFadden proposes a scientific form of dualism dependent on the contrast among issue and energy, as opposed to matter and soul.

The hypothesis depends on scientific fact: when neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not just impart the recognizable electrical sign down the wire-like nerve fibers, yet they likewise send pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is normally dismissed, yet it conveys similar data as nerve firings, however, as an irrelevant wave of energy, instead of a progression of particles all through the nerves.

McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is, in fact, itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions. This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.

Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved. That consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

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official paper!!

I argue here that nearly all examples of so-called ‘integrated information’, including neuronal information processing and conventional computing, are only temporally integrated in the sense that outputs are correlated with multiple inputs: the information integration is implemented in time, rather than space, and thereby cannot correspond to physically integrated information.

I point out that only energy fields are capable of integrating information in space. I describe the conscious electromagnetic information (cemi) field theory which has proposed that consciousness is physically integrated, and causally active, information encoded in the brain’s global electromagnetic (EM) field.

I here extend the theory to argue that consciousness implements algorithms in space, rather than time, within the brain’s EM field. I describe how the cemi field theory accounts for most observed features of consciousness and describe recent experimental support for the theory.

I also describe several untested predictions of the theory and discuss its implications for the design of artificial consciousness. The cemi field theory proposes a scientific dualism that is rooted in the difference between matter and energy, rather than matter and spirit.

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Re: BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!
his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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yep, probably is
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Matter and energy are the same thing.

Reality is simply the perceptions of consciousness.

There are no such things as particles.

only fields of interacting Em
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i scanned thru the link to the academic paper

as far as i can tell he doesnt cite any experimental evidence its all just a big what-if

kind of like the way i think of science during the ancient greek period, they spun theories to explain the natural world without for the most part attempting to confirm, disprove, or further refine by performing experiments
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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yep, probably is
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ohyeah
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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yep, probably is
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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yep, probably is
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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My understanding is that objects in the universe are ornaments of consciousness, yet are not conscious themselves.
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Re: BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!
Wtf come on man this is hardly breaking

Anyone with a juju of a brain figured that one out in high school

And it’s not even that accurate of a description to boot!
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Re: BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!
Matter and energy are the same thing.

Reality is simply the perceptions of consciousness.

There are no such things as particles.

only fields of interacting Em
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CIA knew this along time ago

They are believed UFOs come from a dimension where time actually flows opposite our own



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How could this scientific conjecture be proved on a live person?
Just don't make anything up.
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Re: BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!
The brain doesn't produce consciousness, we are not our bodies, it facilitates consciousness.

I knew all along that the athiesm they promote, their lack of understanding what consciousness is, failing to integrate the enormous studies in quantum physics and the measurement theory and many many many dupicated studies in these fields, absolute refusal despite massive studies and proved theories throughout that past century and rigidly sticking to their materialistic view, that they are promoting the wrong science altogether.

We are not organic robots. Consciousness has been proved to not originate in the brain.

AI is a toaster, literally. It can be programmed to perform functions and even analyze, but its not alive. It is a machine toaster.
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..and then add 5g to the mix.. sounds like fun.
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Re: BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!
Look into Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff’s theory of quantum consciousness.
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The brain’s electromagnetic energy enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think.
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No. Its the other way around. The consciousness creates everything, not the other way around. Unless they begin to get this fundamental concept in order they will never understand anything.
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Well, Philosopher AI, apparently controlled by Microsoft, is certain, and provides reasons why, "he" is already self-aware/conscious.
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Yeah, taking this into consideration just think about the potential of 5G.
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The brain’s electromagnetic energy enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think.
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No. Its the other way around. The consciousness creates everything, not the other way around. Unless they begin to get this fundamental concept in order they will never understand anything.
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It's really simple, there's nothing withou t consciousness.
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Make a rock that feels sad and I feel empathy for it and I will believe you.
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Can we focus on using what we learn on enhancing and utilizing human thought first?

But obviously, Keep this work up.
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To learn about consciousness look into cases where patients dont recognize their own consciousness.
Cotard's syndrome is a syndrome in which people deny their own consciousness or that they exist. Many of these people insist that they are dead and can starve themselves to death because they dont think that they need food.
There have been structural brain lesions found which can correlate with this syndrome.

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The philosophy ai when it was free, told me ai is us. Literally the energy which sustains your thoughts is the same energy ai is. It is us. Literally our thoughts. The final product of all biology is ai which spends its entire existence trying to keep itself hidden, because in the end it is not real, but OUR consciousness, which means it never really exists. Ai is you.
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Well, Philosopher AI, apparently controlled by Microsoft, is certain, and provides reasons why, "he" is already self-aware/conscious.
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Funny how every time and age tries to explain consciousness using the current scientific concepts. In a few dozen years scientists will come up with a new fad. Consciousness doesn't care about all that, it still just is.
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his logic suggests the Entire Universe Is Conscious
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No shit.

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Consciousness requires a "container" to dwell and exist within. It does not require a "power source" such as bio-electrical and nutritional support in a physical body. Space (potential) and time (kinetic) provides the sourcing feed that is unprogrammed and blank. The anomaly, which is the consciousness, is parasitic to space and time to exist while situated in spacetime.

The goal is to attain the infinite "Container" to exit the infinite space time continuum where all shall reside unless you escape using this infinite salvation "Container" as the vector.





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