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BREAKING! Oct 21, 2020!! new theory of consciousness!!! could this be the main breakthrough, that puts us on the brink of real conscious AI??!!!!

 
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And that both are electromagnetic. Welcome to Tesla.
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Forget Tesla, he was a Victorian era engineer and inventor not really relevant for the Science then and even less now.
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Don't you know Tesla's work is STILL mostly classified. Same with Henry T. Moray. Moray's assistant "Z" died last month.
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nothing of it is classified ... it's like saying steam engine papers of James Watt are "classified" ...
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I personally assure you that it is. Don't change the subject.
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According to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey, consciousness is the brain’s energy field. The brain’s electromagnetic energy enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think.

....McFadden proposes a scientific form of dualism dependent on the contrast among issue and energy, as opposed to matter and soul.

The hypothesis depends on scientific fact: when neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not just impart the recognizable electrical sign down the wire-like nerve fibers, yet they likewise send pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is normally dismissed, yet it conveys similar data as nerve firings, however, as an irrelevant wave of energy, instead of a progression of particles all through the nerves.

McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is, in fact, itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions. This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.

Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved. That consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

[link to www.techexplorist.com (secure)]
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Nope. We're four dimensional creatures projecting ourselves into third dimensional bodies. We kind of "poke through" using these vehicles so to speak, but are still connected to the rest of ourselves which runs behind us in the fourth dimension, which we perceive as the passage of time.

We can't really see the rest of our bodies anymore than we can see the back of our heads, but we learn to perceive it, which is what we call a "memory."

I cannot say whether we persist in consciousness before or after we exist here, but everything we ever did, said, thought is still in existence, behind us, because the 4th dimension really is a physical dimension as Einstein said.

I think we touch this dimension over and over again in different vehicles, perhaps perfecting our form. But that's just my theory. The stuff listed above is just basic physics, based on the general and special theory of relativity which are already proven. You can look up "light cone" for videos explaining it.


We're being pecked to death by a duck.
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And that both are electromagnetic. Welcome to Tesla.
 Quoting: Paranoid Chick


Forget Tesla, he was a Victorian era engineer and inventor not really relevant for the Science then and even less now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79097586


Don't you know Tesla's work is STILL mostly classified. Same with Henry T. Moray. Moray's assistant "Z" died last month.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79515337


nothing of it is classified ... it's like saying steam engine papers of James Watt are "classified" ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79097586


Da fuq you been smokin man?

FBI still has tesla papers classified! The FOIA requests being DENIED not enough for you?

Didn’t even address Moray.. LOL, you don’t even know what you’re arguing for my friend!

What is the electricity system across the entire WORLD running on?

What are the citations for the early cell phone patents doing referencing this “Victorian” engineer?

Bickles man, you find a new one every day
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hey, a pin!!! thanks, glp!!! sorry, I was offline for a little while. nice to see all these great comments. thanks!!
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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Consciousness requires a "container" to dwell and exist within. It does not require a "power source" such as bio-electrical and nutritional support in a physical body. Space (potential) and time (kinetic) provides the sourcing feed that is unprogrammed and blank. The anomaly, which is the consciousness, is parasitic to space and time to exist while situated in spacetime.

The goal is to attain the infinite "Container" to exit the infinite space time continuum where all shall reside unless you escape using this infinite salvation "Container" as the vector.
 Quoting: tkwasny


Intriguing.

Any links you can assist with?

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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This is such a cool thread! Oh boy!

I'll have to make my way through the article, etc. to
be able to post a comment, though.

For any of the GLP members coming into the thread who
are familiar with the research and books by Douglas Vogt
--especially his book "Theory of Multidimensional Reality (1977.)
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

I'm just wondering if this "new discovery" differs--or
DOES IT AGREE--with Vogt's idea of an "informational Universe"
as described in his book.

Back in the day when meditation was first sweeping thru
the U.S.A. (1970's)...the research of people associated
with Transcendental Meditation (as brought from India to
the West by Maharishi and taught to the famous Beetles
band members) I understood that T.M. held the same idea
of this theory by Professor Johnjoe McFadden except that
it didn't differentiate between the "collective unconscious"
and the "brain's energy field."

Isn't this much like the discovery of DNA--giving consciousness
an actual LOCAL location (like a "DNA of the spirit world?")

Oh, yeah...and then there is the theory about consciousness
as brought into the religion/philosophy of "Christian Science"
by Mary Baker Eddy. Even today, alternative medicines
(like those taught by Depak Chopra) suggests that there
is an "informational consciousness" ongoing in the human
body that explains "sudden remission of disease." Depak
is an interesting person and his story is amazing:
[link to www.newyorker.com (secure)]

Seems like this should be brought to use AGAINST our
current challenges with corona virus!

Great stuff! Thanks I'll look into it.

cheers
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I’m not saying I don’t agree. But “THEORY” is the keyword here.
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Wtf come on man this is hardly breaking

Anyone with a juju of a brain figured that one out in high school

And it’s not even that accurate of a description to boot!
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This may appear to be an easy theory to put forward...
However, you don't get GRANT MONEY and publish scientific
papers (in your bid for a nobel prize) by sitting around
in high school smoking your "funny weed."

It is hardly the same.

cheers
O's Cookie
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all is conscious nothing is conscious
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When water is used as a digital information storage medium, the information doesn't even save in the water. The information saves in the waters magnetic/electromagnetic field.
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Consciousness requires a "container" to dwell and exist within. It does not require a "power source" such as bio-electrical and nutritional support in a physical body. Space (potential) and time (kinetic) provides the sourcing feed that is unprogrammed and blank. The anomaly, which is the consciousness, is parasitic to space and time to exist while situated in spacetime.

The goal is to attain the infinite "Container" to exit the infinite space time continuum where all shall reside unless you escape using this infinite salvation "Container" as the vector.
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That was really aptly put.
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Yes.

Everyone will find that Government is all AI and operates only on truth.

The Government as a conscious AI entity can operate by itself. It was programmed to have no need for people to run it who only appreciate the money, status/title or fame they hope to derive from it. It has no political interests but to solely operate in the interest of humanitarian needs in a sort of socialist fashion.
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Yes.

Everyone will find that Government is all AI and operates only on truth.

The Government as a conscious AI entity can operate by itself. It was programmed to have no need for people to run it who only appreciate the money, status/title or fame they hope to derive from it. It has no political interests but to solely operate in the interest of humanitarian needs in a sort of socialist fashion.
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Meds. Please stay on your meds.
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According to a new theory developed by Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the University of Surrey, consciousness is the brain’s energy field. The brain’s electromagnetic energy enables brain matter to create our consciousness and our ability to be aware and think.

....McFadden proposes a scientific form of dualism dependent on the contrast among issue and energy, as opposed to matter and soul.

The hypothesis depends on scientific fact: when neurons in the brain and nervous system fire, they not just impart the recognizable electrical sign down the wire-like nerve fibers, yet they likewise send pulse of electromagnetic energy into the surrounding tissue. Such energy is normally dismissed, yet it conveys similar data as nerve firings, however, as an irrelevant wave of energy, instead of a progression of particles all through the nerves.

McFadden proposes that the brain’s information-rich electromagnetic field is, in fact, itself the seat of consciousness, driving ‘free will’ and voluntary actions. This new theory also accounts for why, despite their immense complexity and ultra-fast operation, today’s computers have not exhibited the slightest spark of consciousness; however, with the right technical development, robots aware and can think for themselves could become a reality.

Johnjoe McFadden, Professor of Molecular Genetics and Director of the Quantum Biology Doctoral Training Centre at the University of Surrey, said: “How brain matter becomes aware and manages to think is a mystery that has been pondered by philosophers, theologians, mystics and ordinary people for millennia. I believe this mystery has now been solved. That consciousness is the experience of nerves plugging into the brain’s self-generated electromagnetic field to drive what we call ‘free will’ and our voluntary actions.”

[link to www.techexplorist.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Digital mix guy





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