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If its about the kids-better ban Monster and White Claw too!
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They're banning non tobacco flavored ecigs and vapor.

You know like the cotton candy and other sweet flavored stuff that they might be trying to push on minors.

I see no issue with this.
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No way he’ll be able to implement a ban. They’ve been successfully fighting the kratom ban and that’s a far smaller community and I think capers are even more passionate about it
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Real Patriot: I updated my response on page 8.

;-)
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They're banning non tobacco flavored ecigs and vapor.

You know like the cotton candy and other sweet flavored stuff that they might be trying to push on minors.

I see no issue with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933665


They're banning the sale of an item for everyone because kids are using it. It's already banned for minors. Vaping anything is illegal for minors. It's exactly like all alcohol except for beer because minors are doing to many shots. With your line of thinking you must logically and honestly be in support of total gun bans, total alcohol bans, and total Bible bans.

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They're banning non tobacco flavored ecigs and vapor.

You know like the cotton candy and other sweet flavored stuff that they might be trying to push on minors.

I see no issue with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933665


They're banning the sale of an item for everyone because kids are using it. It's already banned for minors. Vaping anything is illegal for minors. It's exactly like all alcohol except for beer because minors are doing to many shots. With your line of thinking you must logically and honestly be in support of total gun bans, total alcohol bans, and total Bible bans.
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Kids screw up everything, no wonder people are having less.
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Once again, the stuff in vaping fluid except for nicotine is the same stuff in fog machines used by the movie industry for decades but times one million.

Granted that there is no flavoring in fog machine juice and caramel flavors are what gives one popcorn lung so stay away from them.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. “Vaping fluid”? Oh yeah we got an expert over here
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Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths
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The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said.

President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping.

An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people.

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VigilantTexan


Im a trump supporter but if he bans flavored eliquid I’ll vote for a socialist or whoever anybody but him, damn sure ain’t getting my vote. How about investigate what is happening before having a knee jerk reaction. It’s probably Phillip Morris and the rest of the Tabasco giants they have the most to gain. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were poisoning the nicotine extract as they have the most to gain and they are in the business of killing people already
Trump needs to stop running his mouth all the time
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You're not a Trump supporter. What you are, bitch, is a bad liar.

Eat shit and get fucked.
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You’re right I WAS a supporter
And I’m a bitch ya got me hurt my feelings today
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Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths
They're banning non tobacco flavored ecigs and vapor.

You know like the cotton candy and other sweet flavored stuff that they might be trying to push on minors.

I see no issue with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933665


They're banning the sale of an item for everyone because kids are using it. It's already banned for minors. Vaping anything is illegal for minors. It's exactly like all alcohol except for beer because minors are doing to many shots. With your line of thinking you must logically and honestly be in support of total gun bans, total alcohol bans, and total Bible bans.
 Quoting: The Årtist


They are banning the sale because people are dying and getting hospitalized.

If you want cotton candy vape, then make it yourself or get industry standards so some fucking morons aren't selling poison.
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Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths
They're banning non tobacco flavored ecigs and vapor.

You know like the cotton candy and other sweet flavored stuff that they might be trying to push on minors.

I see no issue with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933665


They're banning the sale of an item for everyone because kids are using it. It's already banned for minors. Vaping anything is illegal for minors. It's exactly like all alcohol except for beer because minors are doing to many shots. With your line of thinking you must logically and honestly be in support of total gun bans, total alcohol bans, and total Bible bans.
 Quoting: The Årtist


They're not totally banning anything only the non tobacco flavors are being banned.
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Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths
KEY POINTS

The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said.

President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping.

An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people.

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VigilantTexan


Im a trump supporter but if he bans flavored eliquid I’ll vote for a socialist or whoever anybody but him, damn sure ain’t getting my vote. How about investigate what is happening before having a knee jerk reaction. It’s probably Phillip Morris and the rest of the Tabasco giants they have the most to gain. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were poisoning the nicotine extract as they have the most to gain and they are in the business of killing people already
Trump needs to stop running his mouth all the time
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You're not a Trump supporter. What you are, bitch, is a bad liar.

Eat shit and get fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77991478


You’re right I WAS a supporter
And I’m a bitch ya got me hurt my feelings today
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75452975


Like I give a shit. Trump doesn't need your vote. Vote for a commie naggar who will take your guns.
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the people who are getting sick are buying bootleg crap with THC oil supposedly

no one is dying because they bought pods from a store

redface
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WRONG.

The Mysterious Death of a Vape User Has Massive Stakes for Oregon’s Cannabis Consumers

Oregon’s case stands out for one reason: The victim bought products from two licensed cannabis dispensaries before dying.

[link to www.wweek.com (secure)]
 Quoting: BBQ BOY™


Ok but they aren't going after cannabis vapes.

They are going after E cigs.

So the question is why?
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I dont hate you. Feel quite sorry for you actually.
 Quoting: Real Patriot


Real Patriot, we’re on complete opposite ends of the political spectrum, but for some reason I like and respect you.

I don’t agree with most of what you say, but you do think for yourself and you have the courage of your convictions :-)

hf
 Quoting: GenX Dude


I thank you kindly:-) I dont think I have had any major issues with you so I can say the same about you.

I actually would agree with some of the Republican talking points on a few issues but my main issue is I dont think Trump cares about anyone except himself and some of his kids(Not even all of his kids which is really sad). He is also a complete liar and moron. I would not fear for my life if any other Republican was in charge but I am scared all day every day that he will do something insanely stupid. Do you honestly think Trump would think twice about starting WW3 and going with his close family to an underground bunker and play President for life while we are incinerated up on the surface?
 Quoting: Real Patriot


Hiya!

I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said here. To be completely honest, I believe that most ‘approved’ politicians (not all, but most), be they Democrat or Republican, do not have our best interests at heart.

Because they can make so much money by playing the political game, I believe that these positions attract true Machiavellian sociopaths, in the literal definition of the words. I believe most any of them would gleefully set off a nuclear holocaust and take their families to designated safe spaces, leaving the likes of us to the whimsy of fate.

As a true conservative, I am looking at the situation in which we now find ourselves, and am genuinely scared by both sides: Republican & Democrat.

I’m concerned for the future of my family as I now see both sides marching us towards an inevitable hellscape of tyrannical Orwellian socialist/communist government.

People are simply too stupid to stop this from becoming an inevitability. Look at your average unhinged liberal (I don’t think you are one). Now look at the average Trumpite cultist (pretty much your average GLPer). Tell me which scares you more? I honestly don’t know. I see the differences, sure. But at the end of the day I truly see both sides as having the scariest thing imaginable in common: True Idiocracy.

hf
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I also agree for the most part with everything you said except the part about both sides going socialist/commie. The Far Left may want that to happen but I personally dont think the rest of the Democratic party want to go full Stalin. On the other hand I do think a majority of the Right would welcome a trump dictatorship which would be fascist in nature.

All in all we have extremists on both sides and everything that happens nowadays is tit for tat. If we dont find somehow to come together and compromise America will just be a shadow of its former self. Sad thing is the only way I see America coming together is either a horrible disaster or a war. Both will cost countless American lives.

We are following ancient Rome's lead and destroying ourselves from within:-(
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Real Patriot, we’re on complete opposite ends of the political spectrum, but for some reason I like and respect you.

I don’t agree with most of what you say, but you do think for yourself and you have the courage of your convictions :-)

hf
 Quoting: GenX Dude


I thank you kindly:-) I dont think I have had any major issues with you so I can say the same about you.

I actually would agree with some of the Republican talking points on a few issues but my main issue is I dont think Trump cares about anyone except himself and some of his kids(Not even all of his kids which is really sad). He is also a complete liar and moron. I would not fear for my life if any other Republican was in charge but I am scared all day every day that he will do something insanely stupid. Do you honestly think Trump would think twice about starting WW3 and going with his close family to an underground bunker and play President for life while we are incinerated up on the surface?
 Quoting: Real Patriot


Hiya!

I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said here. To be completely honest, I believe that most ‘approved’ politicians (not all, but most), be they Democrat or Republican, do not have our best interests at heart.

Because they can make so much money by playing the political game, I believe that these positions attract true Machiavellian sociopaths, in the literal definition of the words. I believe most any of them would gleefully set off a nuclear holocaust and take their families to designated safe spaces, leaving the likes of us to the whimsy of fate.

As a true conservative, I am looking at the situation in which we now find ourselves, and am genuinely scared by both sides: Republican & Democrat.

I’m concerned for the future of my family as I now see both sides marching us towards an inevitable hellscape of tyrannical Orwellian socialist/communist government.

People are simply too stupid to stop this from becoming an inevitability. Look at your average unhinged liberal (I don’t think you are one). Now look at the average Trumpite cultist (pretty much your average GLPer). Tell me which scares you more? I honestly don’t know. I see the differences, sure. But at the end of the day I truly see both sides as having the scariest thing imaginable in common: True Idiocracy.

hf
 Quoting: GenX Dude


I also agree for the most part with everything you said except the part about both sides going socialist/commie. The Far Left may want that to happen but I personally dont think the rest of the Democratic party want to go full Stalin. On the other hand I do think a majority of the Right would welcome a trump dictatorship which would be fascist in nature.

All in all we have extremists on both sides and everything that happens nowadays is tit for tat. If we dont find somehow to come together and compromise America will just be a shadow of its former self. Sad thing is the only way I see America coming together is either a horrible disaster or a war. Both will cost countless American lives.

We are following ancient Rome's lead and destroying ourselves from within:-(
 Quoting: Real Patriot


I can’t help but remark that I find it amazing that you, a true liberal (correct?), and I, a true conservative, can actually have a meaningful and rational discussion. (And no I’m not catfishing - I’m happily married ;-).

Only when the majority of us can do this will we actually save America. I believe a balance is crucially needed. I see you as my counterweight!

Green for you when I’ve accrued the karma points to spend.

cheers
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I cant believe this b.s. caught on its been out for like 10 years now everyone is doing it...

I think we should not be concerned with banning things.

What he should do is a speech on vaping with Melania to talk about the dangers of vaping...

If things get worse then step in...

Make it a 2 step thing....
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I thank you kindly:-) I dont think I have had any major issues with you so I can say the same about you.

I actually would agree with some of the Republican talking points on a few issues but my main issue is I dont think Trump cares about anyone except himself and some of his kids(Not even all of his kids which is really sad). He is also a complete liar and moron. I would not fear for my life if any other Republican was in charge but I am scared all day every day that he will do something insanely stupid. Do you honestly think Trump would think twice about starting WW3 and going with his close family to an underground bunker and play President for life while we are incinerated up on the surface?
 Quoting: Real Patriot


Hiya!

I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said here. To be completely honest, I believe that most ‘approved’ politicians (not all, but most), be they Democrat or Republican, do not have our best interests at heart.

Because they can make so much money by playing the political game, I believe that these positions attract true Machiavellian sociopaths, in the literal definition of the words. I believe most any of them would gleefully set off a nuclear holocaust and take their families to designated safe spaces, leaving the likes of us to the whimsy of fate.

As a true conservative, I am looking at the situation in which we now find ourselves, and am genuinely scared by both sides: Republican & Democrat.

I’m concerned for the future of my family as I now see both sides marching us towards an inevitable hellscape of tyrannical Orwellian socialist/communist government.

People are simply too stupid to stop this from becoming an inevitability. Look at your average unhinged liberal (I don’t think you are one). Now look at the average Trumpite cultist (pretty much your average GLPer). Tell me which scares you more? I honestly don’t know. I see the differences, sure. But at the end of the day I truly see both sides as having the scariest thing imaginable in common: True Idiocracy.

hf
 Quoting: GenX Dude


I also agree for the most part with everything you said except the part about both sides going socialist/commie. The Far Left may want that to happen but I personally dont think the rest of the Democratic party want to go full Stalin. On the other hand I do think a majority of the Right would welcome a trump dictatorship which would be fascist in nature.

All in all we have extremists on both sides and everything that happens nowadays is tit for tat. If we dont find somehow to come together and compromise America will just be a shadow of its former self. Sad thing is the only way I see America coming together is either a horrible disaster or a war. Both will cost countless American lives.

We are following ancient Rome's lead and destroying ourselves from within:-(
 Quoting: Real Patriot


I can’t help but remark that I find it amazing that you, a true liberal (correct?), and I, a true conservative, can actually have a meaningful and rational discussion. (And no I’m not catfishing - I’m happily married ;-).

Only when the majority of us can do this will we actually save America. I believe a balance is crucially needed. I see you as my counterweight!

Green for you when I’ve accrued the karma points to spend.

cheers
 Quoting: GenX Dude


I may be a liberal depending on your definition but I am definitely a a Democrat. Like I do believe border security is needed but a wall is stupid and a waste of money. We have to have compassion in regards to immigration. This nation was build on immigrants. At different times in our history they come from various nations but all came here to find the American dream that they heard whispers about in their own country. In the 19th and early 20th centuries the Irish were treated about the same as Mexicans are treated now so none of this is really new. "Those who dont remember the past are condemned to repeat it" is one of my favorite sayings.

It is nice to actually have a intelligent conversation with the other side. I know damn well I can be an ass on here but its hard to not speak with emotion when every valid point I have I made on here is met with the same only shouts of "fake news", "shill" along with many other colorful colloquialisms but never an actual intelligent rebuttal.

Least we see that its possible to have civil discussions with each other. Thats the first step at least.

Thanks for the future green. I gave you some earlier. I really dont mind the red though. Its a good color on me lol.

Last Edited by Real Patriot on 09/12/2019 12:38 AM
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The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said.

President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss Rounduo.

An outbreak of a lawn spray-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people.

 Quoting: VigilantTexan

monsanto roundup still legal [link to march-against-monsanto.com]
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let people vape and let people be happy....
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Obvious lobby move by big tobacco who saw a window open with this illness pop up.

Hey Trumptards maybe he will ban your guns next.
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Vapors got the vapors.

I think it should be banned along with cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco and snuff.

People have the right to do what they want to do to a limit BUT not if the consequences require me to pay extra high insurance or medical bills to cover the costs of their stupidity. Your rights don't allow you to negatively affect everyone else. Those rights end at my nose, my wallet and my patience.

We have known for 60 years tobacco causes cancer and yet every time at the gas station checkout I get stuck behind the burned out leather faced idiots buying tobacco and lotto tickets. Every damn time the cashier struggles to locate the EXACT cigarette brand and style the person wants and I'm standing there cussing under my breath. They are all the same fucking nasty shit anyways.

No sale.

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The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said.

President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss Rounduo.

An outbreak of a lawn spray-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people.

 Quoting: VigilantTexan

monsanto roundup still legal [link to march-against-monsanto.com]
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Great point! I live in an apartment complex and they spray that shit everywhere.

As far as banning flavored vapes because of the children, they shouldn't be getting it anyway because of age restrictions.

Why are they not banning flavored alcohol? Kids want that, too. Oh right, you have to be 21 to buy it. Hmmm.
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