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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77917930 United States 09/11/2019 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths "President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping." Are you fucking kidding me? What ever happened to freedom? Whatever happened to getting rid of big government? Is Trump going to hold a policy meeting on soda or red meat? The only reason there are vaping deaths is because marijuana is illegal in some areas. Drug dealers are putting fake liquid in the cartridges to make more money. Or the NSA is doing it just so meetings like this can take place to take away our freedoms. Legalize all drugs now! Follow the Constitution! Whatever happened to Make America Great Again!? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43528338 United States 09/11/2019 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Wow, six whole deaths! Doctors kill that many in a day just by fucking up. |
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FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 09/11/2019 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Just one problem..there is no "OUTBREAK OF VAPING RELATED LUNG DISEASE"! I have no idea who is behind this assault on e-cigs but as always, we should follow the damn money. Cigarette manufacturers? The people who make the drugs for smoking cessation? I don't know but when you have such an unfounded assault on a product you better find out who is really behind it. and make no mistake, there is ZERO, ZILCH, NADA evidence that e-cigs have caused even one of these illnesses or deaths!.. Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
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Cartel™
User ID: 77973249 Canada 09/11/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths been vaping since 2013 and have no problems. I dont buy junk from 7/11 or gas stations though and now make my own juice. The news reports are bullshit because they had underlying health conditions and they couldn't link it to ecigs at all. They died and had an ecig in the house... so fucking what Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them :candp2: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43528338 United States 09/11/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Once again, the stuff in vaping fluid except for nicotine is the same stuff in fog machines used by the movie industry for decades but times one million. Granted that there is no flavoring in fog machine juice and caramel flavors are what gives one popcorn lung so stay away from them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43528338 United States 09/11/2019 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Just one problem..there is no "OUTBREAK OF VAPING RELATED LUNG DISEASE"! I have no idea who is behind this assault on e-cigs but as always, we should follow the damn money. Cigarette manufacturers? The people who make the drugs for smoking cessation? I don't know but when you have such an unfounded assault on a product you better find out who is really behind it. and make no mistake, there is ZERO, ZILCH, NADA evidence that e-cigs have caused even one of these illnesses or deaths!.. I would be paying three thousand dollars a year to smoke which is mostly just the taxes on tobacco but only pay fifty dollars a year to vape. That's all that this is about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 09/11/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Sounds a lot like Communist China. So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also. You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens... This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed. I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike. Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So, GenX Dude |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74684314 United States 09/11/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Just one problem..there is no "OUTBREAK OF VAPING RELATED LUNG DISEASE"! I have no idea who is behind this assault on e-cigs but as always, we should follow the damn money. Cigarette manufacturers? The people who make the drugs for smoking cessation? I don't know but when you have such an unfounded assault on a product you better find out who is really behind it. and make no mistake, there is ZERO, ZILCH, NADA evidence that e-cigs have caused even one of these illnesses or deaths!.. I think the legacy big tobacco companies want their share of the (growing) e-cig market, and once they have a decent foothold, magically the the FDA will stop shitting its pants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77749705 United States 09/11/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths People have been vaping for years with no drama and now this recently has hit the headlines.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77651564 Instead of banning the product, why not investigate what was put it in to cause the deaths... Oh thats right, its a FF to support the tobacco industry and their lost tax dollars. This. 5 stars for critical thinking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996325 United States 09/11/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Sounds a lot like Communist China. Quoting: GenX Dude So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also. You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens... This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed. I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike. Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So, GenX Dude Thanks for seeing clearly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74684314 United States 09/11/2019 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Sounds a lot like Communist China. Quoting: GenX Dude So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also. You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens... This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed. I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike. Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So, GenX Dude pretty sure you're free to smoke and vape in "communist" china |
Cartel™
User ID: 77973249 Canada 09/11/2019 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths been vaping since 2013 and have no problems. Quoting: Cartel™ I dont buy junk from 7/11 or gas stations though and now make my own juice. The news reports are bullshit because they had underlying health conditions and they couldn't link it to ecigs at all. They died and had an ecig in the house... so fucking what The Kansas resident was over 50 and had a history of underlying health issues, state health officials said in a news release The Kansas death is at least the fourth reported in a middle aged or older person. Minnesota and Los Angeles county officials also reported deaths in older persons last week. The Minnesota patient was over 65 years old and died in August after a long and complicated hospitalization. Minnesota officials said the patient had a history of underlying lung disease [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] these retards were probably vaping fentanyl. These idiots are playing you for FOOLS. Fucking lung disease already Last Edited by Cartel™ on 09/11/2019 03:24 PM Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them :candp2: |
Boaty
User ID: 77825331 United States 09/11/2019 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths This is idiotic. E-cigarettes were not responsible for ANY of the vaping illnesses or deaths. It was THC vaping products that had Vitamin E Acetate in the e-juice. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77326027 United States 09/11/2019 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths the people who are getting sick are buying bootleg crap with THC oil supposedly Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74684314 no one is dying because they bought pods from a store WRONG. The Mysterious Death of a Vape User Has Massive Stakes for Oregon’s Cannabis Consumers Oregon’s case stands out for one reason: The victim bought products from two licensed cannabis dispensaries before dying. [link to www.wweek.com (secure)] What does that have to do with JUUL compatible pods? Nothing. |
Cartel™
User ID: 77973249 Canada 09/11/2019 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths This is idiotic. Quoting: Boaty E-cigarettes were not responsible for ANY of the vaping illnesses or deaths. It was THC vaping products that had Vitamin E Acetate in the e-juice. a buddy has a vape full of weed juice, I better warn him. I was wrecked off 2 puffs Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them :candp2: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77490094 United States 09/11/2019 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Now Trumpites are welcoming blaming the object instead of the user. lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77347725 Embarrassing the GOP as usual. hmmm, ya this is one time I disagree with Trump. I say let the mentally libtarded pinko commies vape themselves to death. Yeah, cause only liberals vape. Fucking retard. |
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Boaty
User ID: 77825331 United States 09/11/2019 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths This is idiotic. Quoting: Boaty E-cigarettes were not responsible for ANY of the vaping illnesses or deaths. It was THC vaping products that had Vitamin E Acetate in the e-juice. a buddy has a vape full of weed juice, I better warn him. I was wrecked off 2 puffs Yeah, I've tried some of that shit .. It clogs up my lungs and sinuses. It's no bueno. ```````````````` ````__/\__`````` ~~~\____/~~~~ .~~..~~~....~~~ ~..~~~....~~~~ Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie. - 2 Corinthians 10:5 - [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)] |
Cartel™
User ID: 77973249 Canada 09/11/2019 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] because adults dont like flavor.... Last Edited by Cartel™ on 09/11/2019 03:27 PM Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them :candp2: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64865775 United States 09/11/2019 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Now Trumpites are welcoming blaming the object instead of the user. lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77347725 Embarrassing the GOP as usual. nope hes getting you to say blame the user not the thing exposing hypocrisy blame the shooter not the gun see how that works you cant see the forest for the trees lol |
Cartel™
User ID: 77973249 Canada 09/11/2019 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths This is idiotic. Quoting: Boaty E-cigarettes were not responsible for ANY of the vaping illnesses or deaths. It was THC vaping products that had Vitamin E Acetate in the e-juice. a buddy has a vape full of weed juice, I better warn him. I was wrecked off 2 puffs Yeah, I've tried some of that shit .. It clogs up my lungs and sinuses. It's no bueno. hmm ya who knows. They got good weed here though so its probably better shit here Imagine a group of people so disgusting they have to make laws preventing you from hating them :candp2: |
beeches
User ID: 77354011 United States 09/11/2019 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too. Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung. The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today. Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years. it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death. -------------------------------------- from the article: [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Last updated Tue 13 March 2018 By Jennifer Huizen | Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD 0.What is popcorn lung?| 0.Symptoms| 0.Causes| 0.E-cigarette use| 0.Diagnosis| 0.Prevention| Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage. While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening. Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace. Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP) The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung. According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung. Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl. A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione. Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut. E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out Last Edited by beeches on 09/11/2019 03:33 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76100954 United States 09/11/2019 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Smoke fucking ciggs if your going to smoke how stupid can you be inhaling fucking liquid who knows what! I'll die how I choose and not smell like an ashtray doing it you fucking twat! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77727366 United States 09/11/2019 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too. Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung. The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today. Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years. it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death. -------------------------------------- from the article: [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Last updated Tue 13 March 2018 By Jennifer Huizen | Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD 0.What is popcorn lung?| 0.Symptoms| 0.Causes| 0.E-cigarette use| 0.Diagnosis| 0.Prevention| Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage. While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening. Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace. Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP) The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung. According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung. Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl. A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione. Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut. E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out well i knew it wouldnt take long for the Big Tobacco shills to show up |