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Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths

 
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I have chemical allergies and the smell of those flavored vapes make me feel sick, so I'm sure there is something bad about sucking it into your lungs.
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you are lucky to realize it is bad for your lungs
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They only want you to buy Marlboro brand e-cigs, because that's who's donating to politician's campaigns.

These new people in the market make the mistake that they think they can sell addictive substances without the proper bribes.
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trin right again
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Hesright
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people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too.


Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung.

The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today.

Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years.

it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death.
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from the article:
[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]

Last updated Tue 13 March 2018

By Jennifer Huizen |

Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD


0.What is popcorn lung?|
0.Symptoms|
0.Causes|
0.E-cigarette use|
0.Diagnosis|
0.Prevention|

Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage.

While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening.

Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace.

Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP)


The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung.

According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung.

Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl.

A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione.

Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut.

E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out

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well i knew it wouldnt take long for the Big Tobacco shills to show up
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most vapers are little soyboy democrats anyway.

awesome!
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If Trump bans them he lost my vote.
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If Trump bans them he lost my vote.
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like you can vote canuck... go vape in mommy's basement
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Hesright
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people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too.


Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung.

The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today.

Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years.

it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death.
--------------------------------------
from the article:
[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]

Last updated Tue 13 March 2018

By Jennifer Huizen |

Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD


0.What is popcorn lung?|
0.Symptoms|
0.Causes|
0.E-cigarette use|
0.Diagnosis|
0.Prevention|

Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage.

While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening.

Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace.

Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP)


The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung.

According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung.

Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl.

A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione.

Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut.

E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out

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well i knew it wouldnt take long for the Big Tobacco shills to show up
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truth hurts,doesn't it?


attack the person, not the facts - the liberal way
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why so defensive?
you dont even know that doctor is a real person or even exists, you just pluck an article off the web, but go ahead fall in line.
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You can thank the people who are lying to their doctors about what really made them sick i.e. tainted black market hash oil cartridges.

But i don't use vape products so i dont care either way.
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Hesright
 Quoting: VigilantTexan




people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too.


Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung.

The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today.

Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years.

it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death.
--------------------------------------
from the article:
[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]

Last updated Tue 13 March 2018

By Jennifer Huizen |

Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD


0.What is popcorn lung?|
0.Symptoms|
0.Causes|
0.E-cigarette use|
0.Diagnosis|
0.Prevention|

Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage.

While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening.

Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace.

Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP)


The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung.

According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung.

Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl.

A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione.

Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut.

E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out

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well i knew it wouldnt take long for the Big Tobacco shills to show up
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truth hurts,doesn't it?


attack the person, not the facts - the liberal way
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nothing more liberal than being a nanny state ban-fun-things busy body
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I thought trump ran as a Republican which I thought meant less government control and more personal freedoms.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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putin

FFS some of you are really really dumb. This is as communist/Marxist as you can get.

You will indeed get the government you deserve. Well, we had a good run, but Idiocracy won out in the end.
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If Trump bans them he lost my vote.
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like you can vote canuck... go vape in mommy's basement
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I'm in the US, GLP thinks I'm in Canada.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
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Trump said, you can grab em by the pussy and they let you because youre famous.

Well bend over Trumpsters
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How will this stop black market vapes? Oh wait...Lol
All Wrongs Reversed.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


really, i work in agronomy, turf for the idiots.

and we aint soy and we are trying to get off tobacco.
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So vaping has killed like less than 10 people and it's getting banned but guns on the other hand...

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People have been vaping for years with no drama and now this recently has hit the headlines..

Instead of banning the product, why not investigate what was put it in to cause the deaths...
Oh thats right, its a FF to support the tobacco industry and their lost tax dollars.
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BINGO! TRUMP and his whole presidency summed up in one post
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People have been vaping for years with no drama and now this recently has hit the headlines..

Instead of banning the product, why not investigate what was put it in to cause the deaths...
Oh thats right, its a FF to support the tobacco industry and their lost tax dollars.
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BINGO! TRUMP and his whole presidency summed up in one post
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yes, also the nicotine thats in almost all vaping products is extracted from potatoes
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Alcohol and real cigarettes kill way more than vaping. Are they banned? Lol. Maybe Trump can add it all into his gun ban bill.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


really, i work in agronomy, turf for the idiots.

and we aint soy and we are trying to get off tobacco.
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Just fucking quit... Unless you're a soyboy of course, then it might be too hard for you.
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People have been vaping for years with no drama and now this recently has hit the headlines..

Instead of banning the product, why not investigate what was put it in to cause the deaths...
Oh thats right, its a FF to support the tobacco industry and their lost tax dollars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77651564


Takes time for the disease to progress, until final death. Maybe 1 year to 5, then dead. Why don't you try it out on yourself as an experiment??
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


really, i work in agronomy, turf for the idiots.

and we aint soy and we are trying to get off tobacco.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77727366


Just fucking quit... Unless you're a soyboy of course, then it might be too hard for you.
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lol

i dipped a can of cope a day for 20 years

and im working on it, thanks
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


really, i work in agronomy, turf for the idiots.

and we aint soy and we are trying to get off tobacco.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77727366


Just fucking quit... Unless you're a soyboy of course, then it might be too hard for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


lol

i dipped a can of cope a day for 20 years

and im working on it, thanks
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working on it = weak as fuck = soyboy
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Great ! I Smoked 2/3 packs a day for thirty ears . I switched to vaping 8 days ago . Not. Single cig !i love my flavor . Cotton candy flavored . I hope they don’t . I tried the tobacco flavored . It wa just like a Marlboro . I don’t want ad breath anymore
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Trump said, you can grab em by the pussy and they let you because youre famous.

Well bend over Trumpsters
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I totally agree. Your post made me lol hysterically for a couple of minutes because I was smoking a bowl of high grade MMJ. Trump cultists don’t mind him thinking for them. They’ll spread their cheeks as wide as the NAACP did for Obama.
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Now Trumpites are welcoming blaming the object instead of the user. lol

Embarrassing the GOP as usual.
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Hes an idiot when he says stupid shit like this.
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You two idiots are embarrassing. Its the FDA's job to protect the public from fatal toxins in ingested products.

If I catch food poisoning from an previously unopened jar of mayonnaise are you are going blame me, the user, instead of the product?

No doubt, most of the e flavor ingredients are being imported in from unregulated foreign countries and who the fuck knows what they use to make strawberry cheese cake flavor. Maybe industrial nuclear waste, as far as we know.

So what would you do? Balance out deaths and young people on ventilators verses profits to vape juice manufacturers?

Besides anyone with a little bit of common sense can make their own vape juice and much cheaper.
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People have been vaping for years with no drama and now this recently has hit the headlines..

Instead of banning the product, why not investigate what was put it in to cause the deaths...
Oh thats right, its a FF to support the tobacco industry and their lost tax dollars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77651564


Trump didn't outlaw vaping. His FDA is banning e flavors. Some, not all need to be banned. But how does the consumer know the good from the deadly?

The vape juice industry is now forced to enforce production standards, something which has long been ignored.
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Flavored vape fluid is not THC fluid.

We've had threads about this over the past week.

Is this a nicotine or a THC issue?

Is this the salt base oils or the glycerine?

Accurate information would be helpful. Reading this article makes it pretty clear that it's not THC but rather nicotine products. And they keep going on about E-cigs when in fact they're talking about bottled fluid. Or is it just the "pods?"


Which leads me to the questions:

How is withdrawing the flavors going to stop people from getting sick?

Are they saying the straight tobacco flavor (which I use) isn't a problem?

What is causing the illnesses?

Are people spiking the fluids?

This smacks a little too much like the Kratom bans for me to be comfortable, bad science, bad opinions, bad information.


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