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Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 45329550 Canada 09/11/2019 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths THE people using them are guinea pigs for a newish tech. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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RepublicofTexas
User ID: 77967986 United States 09/11/2019 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages And the proprietors of the smoke shops would NEVER buy questionable products in bulk from nefarious sources just to make a bigger profit. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19874339 United States 09/11/2019 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages I’m no idiot and I posted earlier I’m aware of this. But this is a precursor to roll out already approved rules/laws for nicotine e juice. The irony is that when those “rules” to be incrementally implemented were approved, someone like say Juul then suddenly comes out and makes a fortune while further vilifying the products before the new rules kick in, because Cigarette companies are losing so much money. If it’s medical grade PG and legit VG and nicotine, it’s much much safer than combustible tar filled cigarettes. Now many of the China-made vaping devices have major concerns that many brand’s parts are made often with heavy metals etc in the pods, that when heated up, a person is literally inhaling heavy metals w their e juice ... but vaping in moderation has helped SO many people I’ve met or know. Nah no hate from me towards you. Just kinda screaming into the void. I don't vape a ton but I remember my old e-go with a CE3 tank that first got me to quit amoking cigs. We can't fucking have anything nice without bureaucrats sticking their dirty paws into the equation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19874339 United States 09/11/2019 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages And the proprietors of the smoke shops would NEVER buy questionable products in bulk from nefarious sources just to make a bigger profit. Most of the stuff at my vape store is sourced locally and is pretty high quality stuff from my experience. What business is it of the government if I sucking vape. Piss off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19874339 United States 09/11/2019 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages And the proprietors of the smoke shops would NEVER buy questionable products in bulk from nefarious sources just to make a bigger profit. Most of the stuff at my vape store is sourced locally and is pretty high quality stuff from my experience. What business is it of the government if I sucking vape. Piss off Fucking lol |
Bad Pattern
User ID: 76790892 United States 09/11/2019 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages I’m no idiot and I posted earlier I’m aware of this. But this is a precursor to roll out already approved rules/laws for nicotine e juice. The irony is that when those “rules” to be incrementally implemented were approved, someone like say Juul then suddenly comes out and makes a fortune while further vilifying the products before the new rules kick in, because Cigarette companies are losing so much money. If it’s medical grade PG and legit VG and nicotine, it’s much much safer than combustible tar filled cigarettes. Now many of the China-made vaping devices have major concerns that many brand’s parts are made often with heavy metals etc in the pods, that when heated up, a person is literally inhaling heavy metals w their e juice ... but vaping in moderation has helped SO many people I’ve met or know. Nah no hate from me towards you. Just kinda screaming into the void. I don't vape a ton but I remember my old e-go with a CE3 tank that first got me to quit amoking cigs. We can't fucking have anything nice without bureaucrats sticking their dirty paws into the equation. I’d give you some green Karma for keeping it real with me. Thank you! I wasn’t directing that at you, just making a blanket statement. Thanks for being cool, AC. Peace! .... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 09/11/2019 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths The bottom line is this: all of you lauding nanny government will eventually get a nanny government. You don’t want it. You think you do, but you don’t. One would think this is a given on a supposedly ‘conservative’ site, which lately is anything but. Sadly, Trump does your thinking for you. This should embarrass you Trumpites, but instead of waking up, you double down on the stupid. It’s incredible to me. When it comes right down to it, you’re as stupid as the liberals. Incidentally you scare the hell out of me. You’re not true Americans who understand the basic tenets of The Constitution. We’re essentially fucked. Idiocracy won. Stick a fork in it. It’s over. |
Bad Pattern
User ID: 76790892 United States 09/11/2019 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages And the proprietors of the smoke shops would NEVER buy questionable products in bulk from nefarious sources just to make a bigger profit. Most of the stuff at my vape store is sourced locally and is pretty high quality stuff from my experience. What business is it of the government if I sucking vape. Piss off Because they don’t want you to figure out that it kills parasites and combats the hot particles fallout from Fukushima. Haven’t gotten sick, stopped catching colds or contracting the flu... Properly lab tested REAL Kratom can also lower blood pressure and boost your immune system among other things, like make SSRIs and money grubbing treatment centers extinct. They like to call even natural, earth/God made remedies “Aversion Therapy”. Kratom helps cure people with addictive/dependency habits by eliminating psychological cravings etc... I know so many people who it helped completely eliminate their cravings and desire to consume alcohol. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77991478 United States 09/11/2019 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths The bottom line is this: all of you lauding nanny government will eventually get a nanny government. You don’t want it. You think you do, but you don’t. Quoting: GenX Dude One would think this is a given on a supposedly ‘conservative’ site, which lately is anything but. Sadly, Trump does your thinking for you. This should embarrass you Trumpites, but instead of waking up, you double down on the stupid. It’s incredible to me. When it comes right down to it, you’re as stupid as the liberals. Incidentally you scare the hell out of me. You’re not true Americans who understand the basic tenets of The Constitution. We’re essentially fucked. Idiocracy won. Stick a fork in it. It’s over. Yeah. Its over my 401K is up 40%. Trump prosperity. Get over your poverty consciousness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 09/11/2019 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths :jay: Idiocracy for the win. And the Trump cult still doesn’t get it. Fucking amazing ain’t it? You Stormf@g tards are a riot. Its not like you are ready for prime time. I should have figured you were the stormf@g moran. If you had an IQ, you could work as a professional troll. |
Real Patriot
User ID: 49383918 United States 09/11/2019 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths The federal reserve note has caused untold damage and every president worth a shit recognized the threat of central banking and paid a very high price for being a real man but this fuggin guy goes after vaping while praising GMO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77294223 President limp dick is to chicken shit to follow God and his oath of office and make US notes saving billions in interest. Now he wants the fed to save his presidency by cutting rates to nothing fucking over people that save money. He's a hypocrite devaluing the dollar and pointing fingers at China where he made his maga bullshit hats. Don the con loved by fake conservatives and Zionist that hate Jesus. Trump is the best president in a 100 years. Look at you education, ass wipe. Trump didn't do that to you. You did it to yourself, you blue collar ass wipe. Kiss my fucking ass, tard. Get fucked, ass wipe. You hate me? I hate you. Let's cut to the chase and make it simple. I dont hate you. Feel quite sorry for you actually. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77762657 United States 09/11/2019 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77991478 Trump is the best president in a 100 years. Look at you education, ass wipe. Trump didn't do that to you. You did it to yourself, you blue collar ass wipe. Kiss my fucking ass, tard. Get fucked, ass wipe. You hate me? I hate you. Let's cut to the chase and make it simple. I dont hate you. Feel quite sorry for you actually. Real Patriot, we’re on complete opposite ends of the political spectrum, but for some reason I like and respect you. I don’t agree with most of what you say, but you do think for yourself and you have the courage of your convictions :-) |
Jackstar
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43528338 United States 09/11/2019 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77991478 Trump is the best president in a 100 years. Look at you education, ass wipe. Trump didn't do that to you. You did it to yourself, you blue collar ass wipe. Kiss my fucking ass, tard. Get fucked, ass wipe. You hate me? I hate you. Let's cut to the chase and make it simple. I dont hate you. Feel quite sorry for you actually. A POS being a POS again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996963 United States 09/11/2019 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths It's not regular eliquids you fucking idiots. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19874339 It's from Black market dark web sourced counterfeit carriages I’m no idiot and I posted earlier I’m aware of this. But this is a precursor to roll out already approved rules/laws for nicotine e juice. The irony is that when those “rules” to be incrementally implemented were approved, someone like say Juul then suddenly comes out and makes a fortune while further vilifying the products before the new rules kick in, because Cigarette companies are losing so much money. If it’s medical grade PG and legit VG and nicotine, it’s much much safer than combustible tar filled cigarettes. Now many of the China-made vaping devices have major concerns that many brand’s parts are made often with heavy metals etc in the pods, that when heated up, a person is literally inhaling heavy metals w their e juice ... but vaping in moderation has helped SO many people I’ve met or know. Nah no hate from me towards you. Just kinda screaming into the void. I don't vape a ton but I remember my old e-go with a CE3 tank that first got me to quit amoking cigs. We can't fucking have anything nice without bureaucrats sticking their dirty paws into the equation. High school Kids are the ones looking for lung transplants: Kids can't/won't make adult decisions so cigs are illegal for teens! these should be too. |
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Avýssou
User ID: 70783844 Finland 09/11/2019 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths Liquid nicotine is dangerous alone (OD), and absorbs abnormally deep. Surely, with synthetic aroma chems are carcinogenic. Accumulate, cancerous by time... Even foodstuff may contain an unnamed AROMA - don't eat such a product, please! now check all your (surface) cleaning chemicals: *dish washer *floor, toilet, window cleaners, etc. *laundry powders/liquids CLOTHING especially important to be FRAGRANCE FREE, since the clothing absorbs chems and then YOUR SKIN ABSORBS from clothing. NOTE: Your pets and children playing on the floor also get toxic chemicals through skin contact. WHY NOT USE THE OLD METHODS OF CLEANING: with vinegar water? with soap water? with citric acid water? with sodium bicarbonate? with citrus oils? These won't break/corrode your dish washer, nor laundry machine: It was all a lie! A sales pitch. We really don't need to support the poison industries. | "In emptiness there is good but no evil. Wisdom exists, logic exists, the Way exists, mind is empty." | "Let your inner mind be unclouded and open, placing your intellect on a broad plane." | Revelations: 21 & 22 | Isaiah 40:31 | When there is a lightshow in the clouds, but no lightning, no thunder: It's alien factions battling. | Q749 "Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours." Q |
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Avýssou
User ID: 70783844 Finland 09/11/2019 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths And plus, "tobacco" flavored e liquid is still flavored e liquid. What are they saying, we can only vape flavorless e liquid? Quoting: bigfoot22 I'll have to go back to diy e liquid to get around this shit if you will, why not try natural oils, cheap, safe. Like peppermint oil, instead of just menthol? you can have a sauna, and inhale steam with eucalyptus, not much different with vape? the key here is ALL NATURAL vs synthetic flavours. AND, that the liquid form of nicotine is perhaps not the way it was meant to be of good use... Last Edited by Avýssou on 09/11/2019 07:17 PM | "In emptiness there is good but no evil. Wisdom exists, logic exists, the Way exists, mind is empty." | "Let your inner mind be unclouded and open, placing your intellect on a broad plane." | Revelations: 21 & 22 | Isaiah 40:31 | When there is a lightshow in the clouds, but no lightning, no thunder: It's alien factions battling. | Q749 "Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours." Q |
bigfoot22
User ID: 77876172 United States 09/11/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths And plus, "tobacco" flavored e liquid is still flavored e liquid. What are they saying, we can only vape flavorless e liquid? Quoting: bigfoot22 I'll have to go back to diy e liquid to get around this shit if you will, why not try natural oils, cheap, safe. Like peppermint oil, instead of just menthol? you can have a sauna, and inhale steam with eucalyptus, not much different with vape? the key here is ALL NATURAL vs synthetic flavours. that sounds good to me as long as it has nic salt |
kenorri
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The Årtist
User ID: 77407545 United States 09/11/2019 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths I've been making my own liquid of about two years. It's insanely cheap and for me it's only 4 ingredients. It's about $100 for 4 to 5 months worth for me. If it gets bad here's some reference for yall. Flavors / PG / VG Bull City Flavors [link to www.bullcityflavors.com (secure)] Nicotine NicVape [link to www.nicvape.com (secure)] Formulations / How Much to Mix ETC [link to www.steam-engine.org (secure)] They also have everything else you need for coil wrapping and wire math Last Edited by The Årtist on 09/11/2019 07:28 PM RAGE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73884231 United States 09/11/2019 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths people probably laughed about asbestos lung, too. Here is an article from 2016, listing vaping of flavored e-cigs as one cause of a deadly disease called by the harmless sounding name of popcorn lung. The article says as more info comes in, action may be needed. That may be where we are today. Diacetyl is the worst ingredient in fake butter and fruit flavorings that have caused death and disability in food factory workers for years. it is used in vaping. By the way, inhaling ANY oil over time into the lungs can cause pneumonitis, pneumonia, and death. -------------------------------------- from the article: [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Last updated Tue 13 March 2018 By Jennifer Huizen | Reviewed by Judith Marcin, MD 0.What is popcorn lung?| 0.Symptoms| 0.Causes| 0.E-cigarette use| 0.Diagnosis| 0.Prevention| Popcorn lung is a rare condition that causes airway scarring due to inflammation and eventually lung damage. While treatments exist to limit and manage symptoms, currently there is no cure for popcorn lung, and it is considered life-threatening. Popcorn lung gets its name from a chemical called diacetyl, which was once commonly used to give food products, such as popcorn, a rich, buttery flavor. In fact, the condition was first identified among popcorn factory workers who inhaled the chemical in the workplace. Popcorn lung is also known as obliterative bronchiolitis, bronchiolitis obliterans, or constrictive bronchiolitis. Popcorn lung can be mistaken for a different condition called bronchiolitis obliterans organizing pneumonia (BOOP) The chemicals found in e-cigarette liquid, known as "e-juice," may be a potential cause of popcorn lung. According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung. Once the dangers associated with diacetyl were discovered in the early 2000s, the majority of popcorn producers stopped using the chemical. However, e-cigarette vapor has been proven to contain diacetyl. A 2015 study of flavored e-cigarettes found that 39 out of 51 tested brands contained diacetyl. The same study concluded that most of these brands also contained the toxic chemicals acetoin and 2,3 pentanedione. Manufacturers add diacetyl to the "e-juice" that is vaporized by e-cigarettes, most commonly to the strongly-flavored varieties. Diacetyl occurs in a wide range of different flavored e-cigarette products, ranging from vanilla to caramel and coconut. E-cigarettes only came under the control of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 2016. Changes to regulations may be required in the coming years as more research is carried out well i knew it wouldnt take long for the Big Tobacco shills to show up truth hurts,doesn't it? attack the person, not the facts - the liberal way List a death from popcorn lung linked to vaping, because I can’t find one. |
Truth Reaper
User ID: 77773230 United States 09/11/2019 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths I tried vaping. I made my own juice with nicotine and flavoring. I used a 50/50 PGA/VGA mixer. I vaped exclusively Atomic Fireball because the rest were weak as fuck. I went straight back to smoking after a few months. That shit is for the birds. I lost my apathy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76158209 United States 09/11/2019 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths KEY POINTS Quoting: VigilantTexan The Trump administration is readying a ban on flavored e-cigarettes, HHS Secretary Alex Azar said. President Donald Trump held a policy meeting on Wednesday to discuss vaping. An outbreak of a vaping-related lung disease has sickened hundreds and killed at least six people. [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Im a trump supporter but if he bans flavored eliquid I’ll vote for a socialist or whoever anybody but him, damn sure ain’t getting my vote. How about investigate what is happening before having a knee jerk reaction. It’s probably Phillip Morris and the rest of the Tabasco giants they have the most to gain. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were poisoning the nicotine extract as they have the most to gain and they are in the business of killing people already Trump needs to stop running his mouth all the time |