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Manosteel
User ID: 73136673 United States 12/03/2016 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Manosteel Ya know...I knew that was going to be what you took away from it..... no...and yet...yes.... I don't care...I am being free and I am over here making money and contributing and helping to press us forward into space and out=r next planet. if someone is so stupid to eat crappy food and get sick...well....then the world is better off with one less stupid person breeding So it's okay for a stupid person to get sick or die from eating the hotdog - ahhh, now that makes sense. How about we just make some rules for the hotdog stand so everyone can eat safely whether they have high IQ's or low ones. err....you are a troll..you know exactly what I mean but you are dredging up the lowest common denominator....typical troll angle Look man...I do not want to hurt anyone...but I expect people to be personally aware and responsible....if you are stupid enough to eat meat on a stick that has been in the sun all day...you get what you deserve No. I'm not a troll. I am simply pointing out how foolish Libertarians are in their arguments. They can't ever accept or admit that some government regulations are actually good. Not only do they develop a mental block against the actual functioning of huge portions of our society, but this block then often turns into raving denial when anyone else says something outside their blinders such as calling someone a troll. If you really think about it, Libertarianism is more of a fantasy than a political philosophy. You are correct, we do have to have regulation or some companies would gleefully dump toxins in the nearest playground....we get that. Where this all falls apart is where the state is supposed to stop and the human is supposed to step in.....you know this. I don't want companies dumping mercury based products in the local playground and neither do you..... we have to have some level of regulation.... but what we have is a level of regulation that continues to dig on as a reason to justify it's existence and dredge up more funds..... They need to find more fault or their budget wanes....we all know this. The current EPA is a monster tat needs a master....they will yield to the people or they will be made obsolete...it's just that god damned simple Only idiots hate facts |
BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States 12/03/2016 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one answer to the probs we face/....true freedom....freedom to do your best...freedom to do your worst.... Quoting: Manosteel Fuck the pukes that want nanny gov to regulate your life......they are not your friends I agree with you that we have too much government interference and regulation in our lives now but the solution is the right amount of regulation not a complete void of any. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
Deplorable Canadian
User ID: 62438265 Canada 12/03/2016 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if the hot dog stand sold food that made you or your family sick or worse caused death you would care but if it was someone other than you or a family member you wouldn't care and are okay with it? That's the problem with all Libertarians of any kind - they make no sense. Quoting: Deplorable Canadian And for the Record, I view libertarians in this election as moronic Hitlary supporters. A vote for Gary the Establish-whore = a Vote for Hitlary. "Do the Shit out of what you Love" |
Deplorable Canadian
User ID: 62438265 Canada 12/03/2016 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one answer to the probs we face/....true freedom....freedom to do your best...freedom to do your worst.... Quoting: Manosteel Fuck the pukes that want nanny gov to regulate your life......they are not your friends I agree with you that we have too much government interference and regulation in our lives now but the solution is the right amount of regulation not a complete void of any. Regulations are self-serving. "Government expands whenever and wherever it can" What most don't know Regulations are often lobbied for by big business to keep small business out. Its so easy I feel like I don't have to give you endless examples. "Do the Shit out of what you Love" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this thread.... Quoting: Manosteel look at how many people do not want to be responsible for themselves...they want a nannygov/police state....geezus christ....it's madness Well fuck all of you.....pretty sure speak for the voting majority when I say.... We do not want your control...we do not want your militarization of everything..... and we the people still run this god damned show....' fuck off gov We the people follow orders from policemen to professor. You can't run around lying about it, jeez! Just be honest |
Manosteel
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Manosteel
User ID: 73136673 United States 12/03/2016 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this thread.... Quoting: Manosteel look at how many people do not want to be responsible for themselves...they want a nannygov/police state....geezus christ....it's madness Well fuck all of you.....pretty sure speak for the voting majority when I say.... We do not want your control...we do not want your militarization of everything..... and we the people still run this god damned show....' fuck off gov We the people follow orders from policemen to professor. You can't run around lying about it, jeez! Just be honest well god damn....we have a truther right here.....this is truth.... so what we gonna do about it? Only idiots hate facts |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73537303 United Kingdom 12/03/2016 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I supported Cruz in the Primary, and voted for Gary Johnson in the General (in Texas where I have the luxury of throwing my vote away if I so choose), I must say the enthusiasm and general positive feeling I'm seeing everywhere around Trump is contagious, and even heart warming. Quoting: Saddletramp I haven't seen people this positive about America's future since Ronald Reagan, and I'm caught up in that enthusiasm. Will Trump be everything people think he will be? I see so many different ideas about how he'll actually govern that frankly I don't see how he could be everything to everyone, but judging from his recent statements, and cabinet picks I am very relieved that he doesn't seem to be playing out my worst fears which were that he would revert back to his Manhattan roots and move left when it came time to actually govern our great Nation. I've never been so glad to be wrong about something in my entire life. In this holiday season I pray for Donald Trump and his Administration. They say America is divided, but we the American people have decisively handed the keys over to the Republicans in all branches of Government in a way that hasn't happened in four generations, now it's time to see if the GOP can actually Govern instead of obstruct, and in all honesty as far as a "Go-Getter" who can hopefully change the gears of the Grand Old Party from neutral to drive, you couldn't ask for a more enthusiastic and energetic person than Donald Trump for this job. I don't care who you voted for at this point, Donald Trump is my President, and he is your President, and I pray for his success and the success of our Nation on a daily basis. Perhaps Donald Trump is a man of destiny, perhaps this swing to the right in the political opinions of American's will be enough to pull us back from the edge of the cliff, regardless it is a heartening attempt, and it's nice to know that majority of American people are rejecting the neo-liberal ideas globalism and multiculturalism. My country feels like home again. God Bless Donald Trump, and God Bless the U.S.A... It takes a MAN to admit he was wrong. You just delivered!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73494560 United States 12/03/2016 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Another positive note, Thank God Hillary got beat and we won't have to worry about that thunder-cunt ever running again... I don't see how you could say that knowing you voted for Johnson. Anyway if you really don't like Shillary then I got some bad news. It's not over yet and Shillary is still trying to steal the election. She ain't got a chance, just another scam to pocket more donated funds... She does have a chance. She doesn't need to flip those states she just needs to delay them long enough to where they can't certify their vote by Dec 13 in which case those states electors wont get to vote. If those states are delayed long enough and don't get to cast their electoral votes then you only need 246 instead of 270 to win. It would would be 260 to 232 then Shillary would need 15 faithless electors and she already has 7. Currently if she delayed those states long enough the count would be 253 Trump 239 Shillary. If she managed to flip 8 more then it would be Trump 245 Shillary 247. She is still trying to steal the election who knows if she will pull it off or not. Some clues that this is what she is attempting is how they waited a couple weeks before calling for a recount and she is trying to force hand counts which are far slower. It would be really stupid to attempt something like that considering it would end in a civil war. |
Manosteel
User ID: 73136673 United States 12/03/2016 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not an enemy....what I want is freedom...freedom to sell your gooods..freedom to tell someone to fuck off.... OMG...why doesn't anyone support freedom anymore? I can disagree with you...I can not want to serve you...I can choose to avoid you.....I am free god damn it.....we still run this god damned show and it is time we proved it..... no you will get no attention.....no we will not acknowledge you..... We run this show and we are all god damned normal! Only idiots hate facts |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one answer to the probs we face/....true freedom....freedom to do your best...freedom to do your worst.... Quoting: Manosteel Fuck the pukes that want nanny gov to regulate your life......they are not your friends I agree with you that we have too much government interference and regulation in our lives now but the solution is the right amount of regulation not a complete void of any. I like your style beenaround. We need smaller government and we need regulated so much less, but we DO need Government. America would tear itself apart in absence of government. Unfortunately IMO we will not get a lessening of Gov & regs with Trump. I think he will balloon it larger than ever. Im aware of All the Big promises politicians before Trump have failed to follow through and did the opposite of the promise. |
BeenAround®
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this thread.... Quoting: Manosteel look at how many people do not want to be responsible for themselves...they want a nannygov/police state....geezus christ....it's madness Well fuck all of you.....pretty sure speak for the voting majority when I say.... We do not want your control...we do not want your militarization of everything..... and we the people still run this god damned show....' fuck off gov We the people follow orders from policemen to professor. You can't run around lying about it, jeez! Just be honest well god damn....we have a truther right here.....this is truth.... so what we gonna do about it? Well here's what I will do lets say civil war kicked off in 3 months from now. I wont do a damn thing because all I see is lies from Trump of course Hillary and all other politicians. I see Trump filling his cabinet with Goldman sacks fellows. I see lies and that won't ever motivate me to get off My Mutha Fuggin Couch. What about you? |
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BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States 12/03/2016 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one answer to the probs we face/....true freedom....freedom to do your best...freedom to do your worst.... Quoting: Manosteel Fuck the pukes that want nanny gov to regulate your life......they are not your friends I agree with you that we have too much government interference and regulation in our lives now but the solution is the right amount of regulation not a complete void of any. I like your style beenaround. We need smaller government and we need regulated so much less, but we DO need Government. America would tear itself apart in absence of government. Unfortunately IMO we will not get a lessening of Gov & regs with Trump. I think he will balloon it larger than ever. Im aware of All the Big promises politicians before Trump have failed to follow through and did the opposite of the promise. He can't grow it. There's no way he can accomplish his main promises by doing that. I do like Trump's approach that he's going to scale it down through attrition. 31% of all federal employees will be eligible to retire in 2017. He's not hiring replacements or at the least a smaller amount of replacements. We will see a major reduction as early as the end of next year. Last Edited by BeenAround® on 12/03/2016 05:56 PM Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
The Comedian :D
User ID: 70344914 United States 12/03/2016 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For fuck sake people give this guy a break. We can all express or have opinions and change our views. We can all hope for the best, even if we do NOT trust certain candidates. All in all we need to pull together and do our best to move forward. Shalom... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41780214 Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only one answer to the probs we face/....true freedom....freedom to do your best...freedom to do your worst.... Quoting: Manosteel Fuck the pukes that want nanny gov to regulate your life......they are not your friends I agree with you that we have too much government interference and regulation in our lives now but the solution is the right amount of regulation not a complete void of any. I like your style beenaround. We need smaller government and we need regulated so much less, but we DO need Government. America would tear itself apart in absence of government. Unfortunately IMO we will not get a lessening of Gov & regs with Trump. I think he will balloon it larger than ever. Im aware of All the Big promises politicians before Trump have failed to follow through and did the opposite of the promise. He can't grow it. There's no way he can accomplish his main promises by doing that. I do like Trump's approach that he's going to scale it down through attrition. 31% of all federal employees will be eligible to retire in 2017. He's not hiring replacements or at the least a smaller amount of replacements. The hell he can't grow it. I like what Trump claimed he would do but its go time now and big Bankers are filling his cabinet. No excuse from you/anyone will convince installing the swamp (he promised to drain) is a good thing. Thirty one percent of federal employees jobs eliminated sounds good to me, but he has to follow through so don't hold your breath you'll die |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 69718773 United States 12/03/2016 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I missed out on all of the initial drama, as during the campaign I just skipped past all of the Cruz threads, as I was more interested in weird shit. Saddletramp has posted what I believe to be a sincere acknowledgement of his hope for the betterment of America, and I think that it is time for us all to take Rodney King's advice: Can't we all just get along? If I'm wrong, I apologize. That being said, my favorite President ever is Ronald Reagan. Reagan was once a democRAT that realized his previous party was full of shit and evolved to become the greatest President of my lifetime. Many detractors like to point out that President-elect Trump was once a democRAT. Guess what? He grew and learned; I honestly believe that he is the man to take on the mantle of Ronald Reagan's vision. Give Saddletramp a break; every person has the capability to evolve and become better. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States 12/03/2016 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For fuck sake people give this guy a break. We can all express or have opinions and change our views. We can all hope for the best, even if we do NOT trust certain candidates. All in all we need to pull together and do our best to move forward. Shalom... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41780214 It's not like he committed a sin and is going to confession to get forgiveness. I see it different. Trump promised to unite us and someway somehow against all odds he has with saddletramp who by the way does post some kick ass threads. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at this thread.... Quoting: Manosteel look at how many people do not want to be responsible for themselves...they want a nannygov/police state....geezus christ....it's madness Well fuck all of you.....pretty sure speak for the voting majority when I say.... We do not want your control...we do not want your militarization of everything..... and we the people still run this god damned show....' fuck off gov We the people follow orders from policemen to professor. You can't run around lying about it, jeez! Just be honest well god damn....we have a truther right here.....this is truth.... so what we gonna do about it? Well here's what I will do lets say civil war kicked off in 3 months from now. I wont do a damn thing because all I see is lies from Trump of course Hillary and all other politicians. I see Trump filling his cabinet with Goldman sacks fellows. I see lies and that won't ever motivate me to get off My Mutha Fuggin Couch. What about you? What I lay my cards out and don't get a response? Why |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71588242 United States 12/03/2016 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that Opie is still stuck in the left right paradigm repubes vs demoncraps says all you need to know. Trump is filling his cabinet with the whos who of banks like Goldman Quaks. Opie doesn't even express concern of Trumps cabinet picks he actually likes his picks. How did this thread get so many 4 stars. Don't get your Hopes up people that way it wont sting so bad during your realization of the truth. Shane on Op Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71588242 |
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Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 40402937 United States 12/03/2016 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bush was all for closing the borders, how did that work out? You're only giving half of the story... That's not really fair to Bush. To be fair Bush had them starting building a wall on the border but the Democrats cut the funding off so he never got much built. Defending Bush now... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 40402937 United States 12/03/2016 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have missed on every topic you have ever posted on. You are a bullshitter and a failure. Fuck off you piece of shit. Go suck Cruz cock. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66551011 "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 40402937 United States 12/03/2016 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What logic is that? Oh yeah, your logic, don't even give anyone a chance, you can't elected anyone who's not out to fuck you so sit on the sidelines, don't vote, and piss and moan about it... No thanks... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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