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BeenAround®
 User ID: 47991895  United States12/03/2016 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libertarian here, Trump & his anti-liberty dream team are clowns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72850184 Giuliani? Sessions? Bolton? Romney? Pompeo? Etc... Deep state's wet dream. No thanks. What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else.  If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Last Edited by BeenAround® on 12/03/2016 09:05 PM Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72850184 United States12/03/2016 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libertarian here, Trump & his anti-liberty dream team are clowns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72850184 Giuliani? Sessions? Bolton? Romney? Pompeo? Etc... Deep state's wet dream. No thanks. What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else. If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Who said anything about leaving? That's a defeatist's attitude, would you have left if Trump didn't win? Gearing up for 2020. After Trump ushers in a new police state, Liberty should be popular again. |
| Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 69718773 United States12/03/2016 09:31 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread has got me wondering - Is "Red for Trump, Green for Hillary" stil around? Or was it, as I suspect, that poster was just a shillary? Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
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| BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States12/03/2016 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libertarian here, Trump & his anti-liberty dream team are clowns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72850184 Giuliani? Sessions? Bolton? Romney? Pompeo? Etc... Deep state's wet dream. No thanks. What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else. If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Who said anything about leaving? That's a defeatist's attitude, would you have left if Trump didn't win? Gearing up for 2020. After Trump ushers in a new police state, Liberty should be popular again. That's the answer I expected. No where to go because it doesn't exist. It's a fantasy. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73541222 United States12/03/2016 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Libertarian here, Trump & his anti-liberty dream team are clowns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72850184 Giuliani? Sessions? Bolton? Romney? Pompeo? Etc... Deep state's wet dream. No thanks. What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else. If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Who said anything about leaving? That's a defeatist's attitude, would you have left if Trump didn't win? Gearing up for 2020. After Trump ushers in a new police state, Liberty should be popular again. That's the answer I expected. No where to go because it doesn't exist. It's a fantasy. Spoken like a true Trumptard. Same ole swamp, new garbage. |
| BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States12/03/2016 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BeenAround® What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else. If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Who said anything about leaving? That's a defeatist's attitude, would you have left if Trump didn't win? Gearing up for 2020. After Trump ushers in a new police state, Liberty should be popular again. That's the answer I expected. No where to go because it doesn't exist. It's a fantasy. Spoken like a true Trumptard. Same ole swamp, new garbage. To paraphrase Anatole France: "How noble libertarianism, in its majestic equality, that both rich and poor are equally prohibited from peeing in the privately owned streets (without paying), sleeping under the privately owned bridges (without paying), and coercing bread from its rightful owners!" Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 40402937 United States12/03/2016 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're open borders Glenn beck fag boy suck my ass pussy tickets on trump train sold out Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72650590 nominate for post of the year.  Habla Englese... Glad you can make heads or tails of that drivel... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72867765 United States12/03/2016 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Saddletramp Yeah in case you didn't read my post I plainly state I didn't support Trump in the Primary or the General... So fuck the fuck off... shilly shilly shilly boy. Look at all that propaganda you posted about how the republican party was finished all the lies about Trump and how Trump couldn't win. Cruz was the only one according to you. Some of the things you said were very nasty and despicable you was acting like a Liberal shill. Nobody can take you seriously anymore. Dude fucking relax he said he is glad he was wrong. He feels positive and proud to be an American. Geat post Saddletramp! From my viewpoint the best thing happened that could have happened in this election. I'm going to back Trump and pray he's able to do the things necessary to rebuild this country. I'm pleasantly surprised by many of his Cabinet picks so far, so I'm willing to admit that so far I've been wrong about him, and I'm glad I was. If he turns on the base of people that elected him and supported him I'll deal with that when it happens, we'll all have to. To my mind he's been true to his word thus far which is all we can ask for, so he has my full support... Fucking loser who hacked Tramp's account, fuck you. And keep your day job. Or in this case don't keep it because you suck at it! You're not even close to Saddle's idiom douchebag. |
| Jolly SoulWinner /:-)
User ID: 73510439 United States12/03/2016 10:53 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are your thoughts on people slamming Cruz's credibility, calling him Lyin' Ted, etc.? Quoting: Jolly SoulWinner /:-) Many Trump supporters I know preferred Ted in the primary. I think that it was a close Primary battle for a long time, I also think Ted will be our next Supreme Court nominee... Intersting, thank you. Glad you knew it was a sincere question and not trolling. Thanks again. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
| Deplorable-Elect Don Solo
User ID: 73168454 United States12/03/2016 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35176657 I don't see how you could say that knowing you voted for Johnson. Anyway if you really don't like Shillary then I got some bad news. It's not over yet and Shillary is still trying to steal the election. She ain't got a chance, just another scam to pocket more donated funds... She does have a chance. She doesn't need to flip those states she just needs to delay them long enough to where they can't certify their vote by Dec 13 in which case those states electors wont get to vote. If those states are delayed long enough and don't get to cast their electoral votes then you only need 246 instead of 270 to win. It would would be 260 to 232 then Shillary would need 15 faithless electors and she already has 7. Currently if she delayed those states long enough the count would be 253 Trump 239 Shillary. If she managed to flip 8 more then it would be Trump 245 Shillary 247. She is still trying to steal the election who knows if she will pull it off or not. Some clues that this is what she is attempting is how they waited a couple weeks before calling for a recount and she is trying to force hand counts which are far slower. Don't be surprised on 20 January 2017 when I revisit this thread; Donald Trump will raise his right hand and swear on THE BIBLE the Oath of the office of the President of the United States. God Bless America.   The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14489389 United States12/03/2016 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BeenAround® What's stopping you from leaving if it's so bad? After all you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else. If your approach is so great, why hasn’t any country anywhere in the world ever tried it?Who said anything about leaving? That's a defeatist's attitude, would you have left if Trump didn't win? Gearing up for 2020. After Trump ushers in a new police state, Liberty should be popular again. That's the answer I expected. No where to go because it doesn't exist. It's a fantasy. Spoken like a true Trumptard. Same ole swamp, new garbage. exactly. more like a retaining pond of Bush era neocons, Goldman Sachs execs & DOD lifers. the new Hope & Change. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72450326 United States12/04/2016 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We didn't go through this enough in the primaries? I was in the U.S. Army in 1990 when my son was born in Seoul, South Korea. The hospital issued a "Certificate of Live Birth." The U.S. Embassy in Seoul issued a "Certification of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America." We have a brighter future ahead. It does us no good to bring up that Canadian shit again. there is a difference. he wasnt born in canada bc one of his parents was working for the govt.....at least not ON RECORD, so while your kid is eligible....Ted Cruz is NOT. the report of a child born overseas is issued by the state dept, bc birth in a military hospital is considered ON US SOIL....Cruz was born on foreign soil. now, if Cruz, his parents, and the US govt want to come out and say cruz's daddy was working as a spy in canada for the Cia or somesuch.....they can do it and issue him a retro-DoS birth certificate......what do you think the odds are that will ever happen? is it even true? CRUZ WAS NEVER ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR POTUS. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 1945058  Puerto Rico12/04/2016 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know I've been on GLP a long time, and my real friends remained my friends despite our minor political difference, it's nice to see those whose opinions I've come to respect on GLP remain friends, and those whose opinions I never really gave a rats ass about...well, I continue to give a rats ass about. I want to thank those who have been my friends on here and continue to be. We've argued a bit, but I never doubted that you wanted what's best for this Nation, I hope you never doubted that I only wanted the same. My support for Trump has nothing to do with anyone elses opinion, it has to do with my country and the future of this great nation. My disagreements with Trump during the primaries had little to do with his positions, though I still wish he was a little more "Libertarian" on privacy issues there was not a candidate running in this election cycle that I was in 100% agreement with so you try to find the best you can and go from there. Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. This nation is in bad enough trouble after 8 years of BO, I can't imagine where we would have been if Hillary had been elected. I'm sure I won't agree with everything Trump does going forward but if he continues as he has so far I'm pretty sure I'll agree with much more than I disagree with, this is simply what happens in a representative Republic, so we just try to get the best we can, and hope they do the best they can... So despite everything, and political differences aside, my hope is that President Trump wants what is best for the United States of America, and if he does, we share common ground with millions of other American's. Whether or not we agree on every single issue ultimately doesn't mean a lot, simply having a President that truly wants what's best for this Nation will be a pleasant change from the last twenty years of Republicans and democrats... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States12/04/2016 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 35306737 United States12/04/2016 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Nice of you to take credit for millions, very classy... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States12/04/2016 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Nice of you to take credit for millions, very classy... I'm proud I did my part to Make America Great Again. Unlike some... Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| LJM77
User ID: 64853847 United States12/04/2016 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Nice of you to take credit for millions, very classy... He can only do his part. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 35306737 United States12/04/2016 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know I've been on GLP a long time, and my real friends remained my friends despite our minor political difference, it's nice to see those whose opinions I've come to respect on GLP remain friends, and those whose opinions I never really gave a rats ass about...well, I continue to give a rats ass about. I want to thank those who have been my friends on here and continue to be. We've argued a bit, but I never doubted that you wanted what's best for this Nation, I hope you never doubted that I only wanted the same. Quoting: Saddletramp My support for Trump has nothing to do with anyone elses opinion, it has to do with my country and the future of this great nation. My disagreements with Trump during the primaries had little to do with his positions, though I still wish he was a little more "Libertarian" on privacy issues there was not a candidate running in this election cycle that I was in 100% agreement with so you try to find the best you can and go from there. Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. This nation is in bad enough trouble after 8 years of BO, I can't imagine where we would have been if Hillary had been elected. I'm sure I won't agree with everything Trump does going forward but if he continues as he has so far I'm pretty sure I'll agree with much more than I disagree with, this is simply what happens in a representative Republic, so we just try to get the best we can, and hope they do the best they can... So despite everything, and political differences aside, my hope is that President Trump wants what is best for the United States of America, and if he does, we share common ground with millions of other American's. Whether or not we agree on every single issue ultimately doesn't mean a lot, simply having a President that truly wants what's best for this Nation will be a pleasant change from the last twenty years of Republicans and democrats... Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Nice of you to take credit for millions, very classy... He can only do his part. I'll just point at the post he responded too and so judiciously edited for his own purposes... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| BeenAround®
User ID: 47991895 United States12/04/2016 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp ... Quoting: BeenAround® You certainly meant that the people who voted for Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton presidency. You're welcome. Nice of you to take credit for millions, very classy... He can only do his part. I'll just point at the post he responded too and so judiciously edited for his own purposes... That's word for word what you incorrectly stated. We put on our big boy pants on election day and saved America. Last Edited by BeenAround® on 12/04/2016 03:27 PM Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 35306737 United States12/04/2016 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trump saved us from the disaster that would have been a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and that counts for a LOT in my mind. Quoting: Saddletramp I'll just point at the post he responded too and so judiciously edited for his own purposes... That's word for word what you incorrectly stated. We put on our big boy pants on election day and saved America. Nice to know you have some big boy pants... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73561124 United States12/07/2016 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I supported Cruz in the Primary, and voted for Gary Johnson in the General (in Texas where I have the luxury of throwing my vote away if I so choose), I must say the enthusiasm and general positive feeling I'm seeing everywhere around Trump is contagious, and even heart warming. Quoting: Saddletramp I haven't seen people this positive about America's future since Ronald Reagan, and I'm caught up in that enthusiasm. Will Trump be everything people think he will be? I see so many different ideas about how he'll actually govern that frankly I don't see how he could be everything to everyone, but judging from his recent statements, and cabinet picks I am very relieved that he doesn't seem to be playing out my worst fears which were that he would revert back to his Manhattan roots and move left when it came time to actually govern our great Nation. I've never been so glad to be wrong about something in my entire life. In this holiday season I pray for Donald Trump and his Administration. They say America is divided, but we the American people have decisively handed the keys over to the Republicans in all branches of Government in a way that hasn't happened in four generations, now it's time to see if the GOP can actually Govern instead of obstruct, and in all honesty as far as a "Go-Getter" who can hopefully change the gears of the Grand Old Party from neutral to drive, you couldn't ask for a more enthusiastic and energetic person than Donald Trump for this job. I don't care who you voted for at this point, Donald Trump is my President, and he is your President, and I pray for his success and the success of our Nation on a daily basis. Perhaps Donald Trump is a man of destiny, perhaps this swing to the right in the political opinions of American's will be enough to pull us back from the edge of the cliff, regardless it is a heartening attempt, and it's nice to know that majority of American people are rejecting the neo-liberal ideas globalism and multiculturalism. My country feels like home again. God Bless Donald Trump, and God Bless the U.S.A... What do you mean it hasnt happened in 4 generations. We had a Republican President, House and Senate in 2005-2006. Full Republican control and then we all know what happened. I am just stating the facts. I still remember George W. Bush as President, Dennis Hastert as Speaker of the House, and Ted Stevens as Senate President pro tem. |
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| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 69712930 United States12/07/2016 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome back SaddleTramp. When will you get back to updating the Grand Finale thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73561124 I need to now that things are moving in Europe again, first Brexit, now Italy is fucking up the show. The E.U. is in a fight for their very survival and no one is paying attention. "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73561124 United States12/07/2016 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome back SaddleTramp. When will you get back to updating the Grand Finale thread? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73561124 I need to now that things are moving in Europe again, first Brexit, now Italy is fucking up the show. The E.U. is in a fight for their very survival and no one is paying attention. I am paying attention. It is a huge mess and it bodes well for a strong US dollar near term. I don't know if they can keep everybody in the Euro. I think we could see it failing or turning into another currency possibly. |
| Saddletramp
(OP) User ID: 69712930 United States12/07/2016 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I supported Cruz in the Primary, and voted for Gary Johnson in the General (in Texas where I have the luxury of throwing my vote away if I so choose), I must say the enthusiasm and general positive feeling I'm seeing everywhere around Trump is contagious, and even heart warming. Quoting: Saddletramp I haven't seen people this positive about America's future since Ronald Reagan, and I'm caught up in that enthusiasm. Will Trump be everything people think he will be? I see so many different ideas about how he'll actually govern that frankly I don't see how he could be everything to everyone, but judging from his recent statements, and cabinet picks I am very relieved that he doesn't seem to be playing out my worst fears which were that he would revert back to his Manhattan roots and move left when it came time to actually govern our great Nation. I've never been so glad to be wrong about something in my entire life. In this holiday season I pray for Donald Trump and his Administration. They say America is divided, but we the American people have decisively handed the keys over to the Republicans in all branches of Government in a way that hasn't happened in four generations, now it's time to see if the GOP can actually Govern instead of obstruct, and in all honesty as far as a "Go-Getter" who can hopefully change the gears of the Grand Old Party from neutral to drive, you couldn't ask for a more enthusiastic and energetic person than Donald Trump for this job. I don't care who you voted for at this point, Donald Trump is my President, and he is your President, and I pray for his success and the success of our Nation on a daily basis. Perhaps Donald Trump is a man of destiny, perhaps this swing to the right in the political opinions of American's will be enough to pull us back from the edge of the cliff, regardless it is a heartening attempt, and it's nice to know that majority of American people are rejecting the neo-liberal ideas globalism and multiculturalism. My country feels like home again. God Bless Donald Trump, and God Bless the U.S.A... What do you mean it hasnt happened in 4 generations. We had a Republican President, House and Senate in 2005-2006. Full Republican control and then we all know what happened. I am just stating the facts. I still remember George W. Bush as President, Dennis Hastert as Speaker of the House, and Ted Stevens as Senate President pro tem. Yeah but they have enough majority in the House and Senate to finally make a real difference (Remember the Senate went back to democrats during George W's 2006 midterms in disastrous fashion). My fear is that the Republican's are not geared towards actual leadership (they most certainly weren't in 05-06), but Trump may drag them along kicking and screaming anyway, because I do believe now that Trump intends to make some serious changes... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/07/2016 01:56 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
