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Who Wants To Bet Me On A Hypothesis Regarding Chemtrails?

 
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Lol its okay bickle, just keep livin in your fake superiority
mindstate, you will never see how stupid you are.

Can you tell me one legitimate reason strontium would be in the
atmosphere, just one? And common shill tactics deployed,
bitch at one thing and ignore all the others. Im a physicist,
and I know what tests to conduct to analyze certain facets
of our environment. I actually had a class last year that went
into great depths geo engineering and what testing proved
certain things.

Plus, your condescending attitude means that you have nothing
else to show for but anger, and ignorance, which the two
usually follow close in suit. So say whatever ya want dude,
no ones butthurt or cares what you think or say. So honestly,
just keep babbling off for me, it is a good source of
entertainmenthf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Show some actual test results showing excess strontium in the atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379809


You need geotrace user/password for this one

[link to www.bco-dmo.org]

But the others are free. Check out the directory
descrips to see how, where, and when testing was
done over all the different parameters

[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]

[link to dmoserv3.bco-dmo.org]


I just dont see what else you could want.
These are atmopsheric metal readings,
and they show since the 80s and increase of
many metals, mostly all are toxic.
And yes, I did look into expanding
production frontiers in the modern economy, and
the various increased levels of pollution, although
the only thing that would be explained is aluminum, since
factories that galvanize material use alum to help
process other metals, and then dump the alum
into waste water. There is not one company in the
US let alone the world that uses any industrial process
that isnt contained, that deals with strontium, barium, cadmium,
chromium and manganese, amoung others.
So how else would they be getting up there is my
question? Volcanoes too do not release these metal
particulates, one also might ask. So how, I ask you?
Hmmm.

Thats all im sayin, no need to be dicks or shills,
just trying to scientifically address a problem,
over saturation of heavy metals in our air and water.

Go buy a farm and use rain water to feed your animals.
Lord knows Tyson and Purdue dont, they use triple
filtered, ozonated H2O, with a special pollutant remover.
Jus check both their websites, I dont think you need
a link to google Tyson chicken. It is a very sad thing to see
a horse slowly die of heavy metal poisoning, let alone
an entire farm of animals.

Be serious and mature about this instead of just
sticking your head in the sand and yelling at all the
peopel that dont agree with you. Sounds like
politics if you ask me, and we all know how honest they
are and how well they perform their jobs.
LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


A chemtard telling others to be serious and mature.

Hilarious

You have failed to show ANY relationship between the trails in the sky and anything found at ground level.

FAILED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
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11/09/2015 03:07 AM
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OP I agree with you, they tend to spray a LOT before and after a storm. Keeping California dry is important to their overall goals.

Geoengineering is real. Beware all these "PROVE IT" government paid shills. If you do, they will come for you. Look at Dana Durnford. Arrested for proving Fuckyoushima is killing the Pacific and the world. Be wary, but know many of us are believers in reality, and not swayed by "You're so stupid/You fail/Prove it" shills.
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11/09/2015 03:10 AM
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I call bullshit on this person being a physicist. No actual scientist would jump to conclusions or fail to reach out to an expert in the field being discussed. There is no way this person understands geology or has even discussed levels of natural elements or reasons they could increase at ground level.

There are too many variables in or ecosystem to say that because we find something at ground level it must come from what we see when we look up.

Ridiculous

If this person is scientist, he/she wasn't there the day the taught the scientific method.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I would like to see every part of the "scientific method"
disseminated according to my research. You do not refute
anything, yet attack my character about someone you know
nothing about. "Shill"....

There are not heavy metal particulates in the air in
high concentrations naturally. PLEASE find me any
study that can prove strontium and cadmium are in the
air at any natural levels, and then we will talk about WHO
disregards the "scientific process". Lol, bickles these days.
You dont even argue against anything, you just try and attack
people personally with no regard to content matter
whatsoever. Cant wait till hear that shill rebuttle.
Maybe youre not the physicist, so how would you know any
inkling of what happens in the scientific community?
This is a legitamate deal in universities and independant
air quality control companies. So keep shillin me out,
I dont care:) people who deserve the knowledge will
see it, others will and not do anything with it, so what
does it matter to me? Whats the real question is why do you
care so much about what people see in the sky in the
first place? Thats like the old Air Force shills trying to
be like, uh yeah we have seen ufos before but theyre not
alien. LOL!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Look at you attacking the character of someone you call a "shill" for pointing out that you jump to conclusions.

"high concentrations"

Show HOW HIGH, and show what they used to be before the trails came around. And then show there are no other sources of contamination.

And I find it hard to believe a "physicist" would have such horrid spelling and not use a spellcheck.

Some people actually care about the truth. You're not one of them.

We don't care about what you believe you see in the sky, we care about conjecture and assumption being presented as truth.

YOU are the "shill". You and the other imbeciles keep Michael Murphy and Dane Wigington swimming in money they REFUSE to use to get actual samples from the trails themselves.

And what's wrong with anyone from the Air Force saying that an unidentified object in the sky isn't alien?

Just because people don't know what an object is, doesn't mean it came from another planet!

Again, more evidence that you are NOT a person of science.

By the way, please provide the data from the independent air quality control companies and Universities who claim that the levels of ANYTHING have risen because of the trails in the sky.

I'll wait.
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11/09/2015 03:12 AM
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OP I agree with you, they tend to spray a LOT before and after a storm. Keeping California dry is important to their overall goals.

Geoengineering is real. Beware all these "PROVE IT" government paid shills. If you do, they will come for you. Look at Dana Durnford. Arrested for proving Fuckyoushima is killing the Pacific and the world. Be wary, but know many of us are believers in reality, and not swayed by "You're so stupid/You fail/Prove it" shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


Again, as the storms approach, the moisture levels increase. more moisture in the air, more trails.

Go ahead and insist on being ignorant. I'll keep laughing.
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11/09/2015 03:14 AM
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Show some actual test results showing excess strontium in the atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379809


You need geotrace user/password for this one

[link to www.bco-dmo.org]

But the others are free. Check out the directory
descrips to see how, where, and when testing was
done over all the different parameters

[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]

[link to dmoserv3.bco-dmo.org]


I just dont see what else you could want.
These are atmopsheric metal readings,
and they show since the 80s and increase of
many metals, mostly all are toxic.
And yes, I did look into expanding
production frontiers in the modern economy, and
the various increased levels of pollution, although
the only thing that would be explained is aluminum, since
factories that galvanize material use alum to help
process other metals, and then dump the alum
into waste water. There is not one company in the
US let alone the world that uses any industrial process
that isnt contained, that deals with strontium, barium, cadmium,
chromium and manganese, amoung others.
So how else would they be getting up there is my
question? Volcanoes too do not release these metal
particulates, one also might ask. So how, I ask you?
Hmmm.

Thats all im sayin, no need to be dicks or shills,
just trying to scientifically address a problem,
over saturation of heavy metals in our air and water.

Go buy a farm and use rain water to feed your animals.
Lord knows Tyson and Purdue dont, they use triple
filtered, ozonated H2O, with a special pollutant remover.
Jus check both their websites, I dont think you need
a link to google Tyson chicken. It is a very sad thing to see
a horse slowly die of heavy metal poisoning, let alone
an entire farm of animals.

Be serious and mature about this instead of just
sticking your head in the sand and yelling at all the
peopel that dont agree with you. Sounds like
politics if you ask me, and we all know how honest they
are and how well they perform their jobs.
LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


A chemtard telling others to be serious and mature.

Hilarious

You have failed to show ANY relationship between the trails in the sky and anything found at ground level.

FAILED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
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11/09/2015 03:15 AM
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Most people on GLP flunked chemistry classes.
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And geology, basic science, math..

More I'm sure.
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11/09/2015 03:18 AM
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Vehicles emit exhaust

Boats emit exhaust

Airplanes emit exhaust

When it's -10 degrees out and I see gray exhaust smoke coming out every other vehicle in front of me on the road, am I being chem trailed by these people?
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Vehicles emit exhaust

Boats emit exhaust

Airplanes emit exhaust

When it's -10 degrees out and I see gray exhaust smoke coming out every other vehicle in front of me on the road, am I being chem trailed by these people?
 Quoting: PokerStar


Apparently...
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11/09/2015 03:24 AM
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You need geotrace user/password for this one

[link to www.bco-dmo.org]

But the others are free. Check out the directory
descrips to see how, where, and when testing was
done over all the different parameters

[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]
[link to vocab.nerc.ac.uk]

[link to dmoserv3.bco-dmo.org]


I just dont see what else you could want.
These are atmopsheric metal readings,
and they show since the 80s and increase of
many metals, mostly all are toxic.
And yes, I did look into expanding
production frontiers in the modern economy, and
the various increased levels of pollution, although
the only thing that would be explained is aluminum, since
factories that galvanize material use alum to help
process other metals, and then dump the alum
into waste water. There is not one company in the
US let alone the world that uses any industrial process
that isnt contained, that deals with strontium, barium, cadmium,
chromium and manganese, amoung others.
So how else would they be getting up there is my
question? Volcanoes too do not release these metal
particulates, one also might ask. So how, I ask you?
Hmmm.

Thats all im sayin, no need to be dicks or shills,
just trying to scientifically address a problem,
over saturation of heavy metals in our air and water.

Go buy a farm and use rain water to feed your animals.
Lord knows Tyson and Purdue dont, they use triple
filtered, ozonated H2O, with a special pollutant remover.
Jus check both their websites, I dont think you need
a link to google Tyson chicken. It is a very sad thing to see
a horse slowly die of heavy metal poisoning, let alone
an entire farm of animals.

Be serious and mature about this instead of just
sticking your head in the sand and yelling at all the
peopel that dont agree with you. Sounds like
politics if you ask me, and we all know how honest they
are and how well they perform their jobs.
LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


A chemtard telling others to be serious and mature.

Hilarious

You have failed to show ANY relationship between the trails in the sky and anything found at ground level.

FAILED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
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Most people on GLP flunked chemistry classes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70752099


And geology, basic science, math..

More I'm sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Yeah, they failed to take in the mind control propaganda from the brainwashing camps called schools. Gosh, that's terrible. They should be reported!

Science and what is taught in schools is very different. Real science is different than paid off science. Real opposition is different than paid for shills.

I guess I could just fight like shills do.

All you chemdeniers are morons. You obviously can't even believe your own eyes. You're too stupid from believing the brainwashing. You are all a laugh riot with your daily stupidity. You keep coming back to make fun of people when you, yourselves, are the joke. Morons, fools, liars.

Ahhh that is a nice stress reliever. Chemdenier morons make me laugh!

headbang
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Re: Who Wants To Bet Me On A Hypothesis Regarding Chemtrails?
Vehicles emit exhaust

Boats emit exhaust

Airplanes emit exhaust

When it's -10 degrees out and I see gray exhaust smoke coming out every other vehicle in front of me on the road, am I being chem trailed by these people?
 Quoting: PokerStar


Apparently...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


So the atmosphere remains a solid -10 degrees always?
And how long exactly do this different coloured exhausts
stay visible?
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A chemtard telling others to be serious and mature.

Hilarious

You have failed to show ANY relationship between the trails in the sky and anything found at ground level.

FAILED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


How do I do that? By relying on millions of man hours of study in aviation and atmospheric science?! How silly of me to say these trails are contrails!

Again, YOU people make the claims that the trails aren't what we have been told they are. The burden of proof is on YOU to provide the evidence to support the claim.

Waiting....
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Vehicles emit exhaust

Boats emit exhaust

Airplanes emit exhaust

When it's -10 degrees out and I see gray exhaust smoke coming out every other vehicle in front of me on the road, am I being chem trailed by these people?
 Quoting: PokerStar


Apparently...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


So the atmosphere remains a solid -10 degrees always?
And how long exactly do this different coloured exhausts
stay visible?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575



Um...what?
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Most people on GLP flunked chemistry classes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70752099


And geology, basic science, math..

More I'm sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Yeah, they failed to take in the mind control propaganda from the brainwashing camps called schools. Gosh, that's terrible. They should be reported!

Science and what is taught in schools is very different. Real science is different than paid off science. Real opposition is different than paid for shills.

I guess I could just fight like shills do.

All you chemdeniers are morons. You obviously can't even believe your own eyes. You're too stupid from believing the brainwashing. You are all a laugh riot with your daily stupidity. You keep coming back to make fun of people when you, yourselves, are the joke. Morons, fools, liars.

Ahhh that is a nice stress reliever. Chemdenier morons make me laugh!

headbang
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


It's always those who don't have an education who don't understand the value of one.

Feel free to show that hydrocarbon combustion within an an atmosphere saturated with respect to ice wouldn't produce what we see coming from jet engines.

Use your "real" science to show me.


You fucking dunce.
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A chemtard telling others to be serious and mature.

Hilarious

You have failed to show ANY relationship between the trails in the sky and anything found at ground level.

FAILED
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63871965


I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


And there isn't a chance in hell that you're a physicist.

You make way too many stupid assumptions.
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Most people on GLP flunked chemistry classes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70752099


And geology, basic science, math..

More I'm sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Yeah, they failed to take in the mind control propaganda from the brainwashing camps called schools. Gosh, that's terrible. They should be reported!

Science and what is taught in schools is very different. Real science is different than paid off science. Real opposition is different than paid for shills.

I guess I could just fight like shills do.

All you chemdeniers are morons. You obviously can't even believe your own eyes. You're too stupid from believing the brainwashing. You are all a laugh riot with your daily stupidity. You keep coming back to make fun of people when you, yourselves, are the joke. Morons, fools, liars.

Ahhh that is a nice stress reliever. Chemdenier morons make me laugh!

headbang
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


It's always those who don't have an education who don't understand the value of one.

Feel free to show that hydrocarbon combustion within an an atmosphere saturated with respect to ice wouldn't produce what we see coming from jet engines.

Use your "real" science to show me.


You fucking dunce.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Wow. That hurts moron. I'm so upset I will just believe you now!

5a
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And geology, basic science, math..

More I'm sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Yeah, they failed to take in the mind control propaganda from the brainwashing camps called schools. Gosh, that's terrible. They should be reported!

Science and what is taught in schools is very different. Real science is different than paid off science. Real opposition is different than paid for shills.

I guess I could just fight like shills do.

All you chemdeniers are morons. You obviously can't even believe your own eyes. You're too stupid from believing the brainwashing. You are all a laugh riot with your daily stupidity. You keep coming back to make fun of people when you, yourselves, are the joke. Morons, fools, liars.

Ahhh that is a nice stress reliever. Chemdenier morons make me laugh!

headbang
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


It's always those who don't have an education who don't understand the value of one.

Feel free to show that hydrocarbon combustion within an an atmosphere saturated with respect to ice wouldn't produce what we see coming from jet engines.

Use your "real" science to show me.


You fucking dunce.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Wow. That hurts moron. I'm so upset I will just believe you now!

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


I don't want you to believe me.

I'm glad you suffer because of your ignorance.
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Yeah, they failed to take in the mind control propaganda from the brainwashing camps called schools. Gosh, that's terrible. They should be reported!

Science and what is taught in schools is very different. Real science is different than paid off science. Real opposition is different than paid for shills.

I guess I could just fight like shills do.

All you chemdeniers are morons. You obviously can't even believe your own eyes. You're too stupid from believing the brainwashing. You are all a laugh riot with your daily stupidity. You keep coming back to make fun of people when you, yourselves, are the joke. Morons, fools, liars.

Ahhh that is a nice stress reliever. Chemdenier morons make me laugh!

headbang
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


It's always those who don't have an education who don't understand the value of one.

Feel free to show that hydrocarbon combustion within an an atmosphere saturated with respect to ice wouldn't produce what we see coming from jet engines.

Use your "real" science to show me.


You fucking dunce.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Wow. That hurts moron. I'm so upset I will just believe you now!

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


I don't want you to believe me.

I'm glad you suffer because of your ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


I'm glad karma will make you suffer for being a liar and a scumbag. Your ignorance is the ignorance of thinking humanity deserves to suffer and die because they don't want to be ruled over by evil. You are a sad pathetic version of a human. Your masters hate you too.

s226
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It's always those who don't have an education who don't understand the value of one.

Feel free to show that hydrocarbon combustion within an an atmosphere saturated with respect to ice wouldn't produce what we see coming from jet engines.

Use your "real" science to show me.


You fucking dunce.
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Wow. That hurts moron. I'm so upset I will just believe you now!

5a
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I don't want you to believe me.

I'm glad you suffer because of your ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


I'm glad karma will make you suffer for being a liar and a scumbag. Your ignorance is the ignorance of thinking humanity deserves to suffer and die because they don't want to be ruled over by evil. You are a sad pathetic version of a human. Your masters hate you too.

s226
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I'm neither a liar or a scumbag. I'm just someone who is better educated than chemtards are about the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science.

Karma already owns you. How horrible it must be to live in a world where you are being intentionally sprayed like a bug.

I pity you.
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Wow. That hurts moron. I'm so upset I will just believe you now!

5a
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I don't want you to believe me.

I'm glad you suffer because of your ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


I'm glad karma will make you suffer for being a liar and a scumbag. Your ignorance is the ignorance of thinking humanity deserves to suffer and die because they don't want to be ruled over by evil. You are a sad pathetic version of a human. Your masters hate you too.

s226
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I'm neither a liar or a scumbag. I'm just someone who is better educated than chemtards are about the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science.

Karma already owns you. How horrible it must be to live in a world where you are being intentionally sprayed like a bug.

I pity you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


You are better educated on how to lie to people with your chemdenier bullshit. Atmospheric science? I bet you believe in man made global warming too? And vaccines, those must be good. Oh and fuckyoushima is overblown and no big deal. Your vote counts, right? The Federal Reserve is here to help us? Enlighten all us fools with your vast proaganda driven agenda! Please... we are so not worthy.

It's not like anyone without a piece of paper from a brain washing camp/College can even HAVE an opinion! Oh no! It's impossible to know anything unless the state approves. Right?
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I'm glad that chemtards will never know how stupid they are.

Free entertainment forever.
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Lol. Its free entertainment to watch reasonable
intelligent people make asses outta themselves
bec they think theyre not existant.

How much evidence do you need?
Visual?
Increased heavy metal concentrations?
Higher solar radiation at ground level
when the trails have fully dispersed?
Animals dying from strontium
poisoning bec their only water supply is a small
pond outside?

Well these are all true and can be proven in a
myriad or ways.

Or how about you actually do your own tests
before ignorantly claiming falsities.

Get some rainwater one day when it hasnt
"appeared to be chemtrailed"' for a few days.

Then collect some when it does appear to be
a lot of trails. Bring them to a water testing/treatment
company, my small town of 3000 has 2 of them.

Ask them for pH, sediment levels, heavy metal
levels, and conductance.

After that tell me chemtrailing isnt real
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hesright


Morons, idiots, and shills will always deny the truth... Even as the rail-car door is closing behind them.
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I just dont know what else i could show you,
well I shoulda known it wouldnt make a diff what
i posted. I could prob take you in a chem plane
and show you them sprayin the shit and you
still would argue against me so whatever, not like
convincing a shill or a dumbass matters, in the end
youre still the same:) at least i dont breed and nuture
negativity. Lemme ask, why are you on this thread?
To talk down to people you think youre smarter and
better than? Hmmmmm wonder why
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
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And there isn't a chance in hell that you're a physicist.

You make way too many stupid assumptions.
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Hahahaha then you dont even truly know what it means
to be a physicist.... What is the gravitational and coloumbic
constants based on? Assumptions, lol!

And plus, what am I assuming in the first place?
I would love for you to put words in my mouth:)
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I'm glad that chemtards will never know how stupid they are.

Free entertainment forever.
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Lol. Its free entertainment to watch reasonable
intelligent people make asses outta themselves
bec they think theyre not existant.

How much evidence do you need?
Visual?
Increased heavy metal concentrations?
Higher solar radiation at ground level
when the trails have fully dispersed?
Animals dying from strontium
poisoning bec their only water supply is a small
pond outside?

Well these are all true and can be proven in a
myriad or ways.

Or how about you actually do your own tests
before ignorantly claiming falsities.

Get some rainwater one day when it hasnt
"appeared to be chemtrailed"' for a few days.

Then collect some when it does appear to be
a lot of trails. Bring them to a water testing/treatment
company, my small town of 3000 has 2 of them.

Ask them for pH, sediment levels, heavy metal
levels, and conductance.

After that tell me chemtrailing isnt real
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


hesright


Morons, idiots, and shills will always deny the truth... Even as the rail-car door is closing behind them.
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youknow
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Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
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DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


And there isn't a chance in hell that you're a physicist.

You make way too many stupid assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Hahahaha then you dont even truly know what it means
to be a physicist.... What is the gravitational and coloumbic
constants based on? Assumptions, lol!

And plus, what am I assuming in the first place?
I would love for you to put words in my mouth:)
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Concepts can be based on assumptions, not conclusions.
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Seeing something, and understanding what we see are two completely different things.

Chemtards prove that every day.
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DOrolleyes

Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575


And there isn't a chance in hell that you're a physicist.

You make way too many stupid assumptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


Hahahaha then you dont even truly know what it means
to be a physicist.... What is the gravitational and coloumbic
constants based on? Assumptions, lol!

And plus, what am I assuming in the first place?
I would love for you to put words in my mouth:)
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And you assume that the trails in the sky have something to do with varying levels of natural elements.
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I don't want you to believe me.

I'm glad you suffer because of your ignorance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


I'm glad karma will make you suffer for being a liar and a scumbag. Your ignorance is the ignorance of thinking humanity deserves to suffer and die because they don't want to be ruled over by evil. You are a sad pathetic version of a human. Your masters hate you too.

s226
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


I'm neither a liar or a scumbag. I'm just someone who is better educated than chemtards are about the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science.

Karma already owns you. How horrible it must be to live in a world where you are being intentionally sprayed like a bug.

I pity you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17558558


You are better educated on how to lie to people with your chemdenier bullshit. Atmospheric science? I bet you believe in man made global warming too? And vaccines, those must be good. Oh and fuckyoushima is overblown and no big deal. Your vote counts, right? The Federal Reserve is here to help us? Enlighten all us fools with your vast proaganda driven agenda! Please... we are so not worthy.

It's not like anyone without a piece of paper from a brain washing camp/College can even HAVE an opinion! Oh no! It's impossible to know anything unless the state approves. Right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70064009


Again, your lack of faith in humanity is sad and pathetic.

Good!

And you aren't sharing opinion, you are claiming facts.

It figures you're too stupid to understand the difference.
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I call bullshit on this person being a physicist. No actual scientist would jump to conclusions or fail to reach out to an expert in the field being discussed. There is no way this person understands geology or has even discussed levels of natural elements or reasons they could increase at ground level.

There are too many variables in or ecosystem to say that because we find something at ground level it must come from what we see when we look up.

Ridiculous

If this person is scientist, he/she wasn't there the day the taught the scientific method.
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I would like to see every part of the "scientific method"
disseminated according to my research. You do not refute
anything, yet attack my character about someone you know
nothing about. "Shill"....

There are not heavy metal particulates in the air in
high concentrations naturally. PLEASE find me any
study that can prove strontium and cadmium are in the
air at any natural levels, and then we will talk about WHO
disregards the "scientific process". Lol, bickles these days.
You dont even argue against anything, you just try and attack
people personally with no regard to content matter
whatsoever. Cant wait till hear that shill rebuttle.
Maybe youre not the physicist, so how would you know any
inkling of what happens in the scientific community?
This is a legitamate deal in universities and independant
air quality control companies. So keep shillin me out,
I dont care:) people who deserve the knowledge will
see it, others will and not do anything with it, so what
does it matter to me? Whats the real question is why do you
care so much about what people see in the sky in the
first place? Thats like the old Air Force shills trying to
be like, uh yeah we have seen ufos before but theyre not
alien. LOL!!
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The scientific method is not about refuting someone else's hypothesis. The burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim. We, as observers, do not have to refute anything. In this case, you have to show evidence for the claims that,

1. they are "chemtrails" and not contrails
2. material from these "chemtrais" are falling from the sky
3. the material falling from the sky is affecting groundwater, soil, etc.
4. the "chemtrails" are somehow doing something to people on the ground

Then there are several other questions that come up.

1. How much mass does it take to produce the white puffy things that you can "chemtrails" in the sky? Since they have certain optical properties you can start to assume parameters about them. The thickness has to be a few hundred meters. You can estimate width and length. I have done some simple calculations and if all the material is emitted from the plane, it exceeds the mass of the plane in about 100 km. This is less than the distance a plane flying at 30,000 feet flies horizon to horizon.
2. How about the dispersion rates of material left at that altitude? How does it spread?
3. What is the suspension time? How long does it take any chemicals to fall to the ground?
4. What is the target? You must know that something released directly overhead will not fall straight to the ground, especially. Where does it land?
5. What is being "sprayed"? How is it being "sprayed"? This are very important questions that no one seems to care about answering. All I have seen are doctored photos and cases of mistaken identity. Radio antennas or sampling nozzles being called "sprayers".
6. Who manufactures the stuff? Who manufactures the equipment needed? How does it get transported? How does it get loaded? These questions deal with the number of people who would have to be involved in the process.
7. Who pays for all this? That is a lot of money. Where does it come from?

If you are a physicist, is that you have to realize that no on accepts unverifiable data. We do not deal in pseudoscience. Claims have to be backed up by details about any techniques used and, if sampling, all safeguards used to prevent contamination. And others, even nonbelievers, have to be able to repeat your research and reach the same conclusion. Read any paper in any scientific journal, Nature, Science, Physical Review, Lancet, and hundreds of others journals. There is a set format that researchers follow and editors require. None of them resort to “believe my research or I will call you a name” type of tactics. They realize they have to convince others that they are correct.

You also need to provide a better explanation then the current explanation. If you are trying to invoke a paradigm shift, it takes extraordinary evidence for an extraordinary claim. In this case you now have to show how your hypothesis is better than the statements about contrails. Aircraft contrails have been seen for almost 100 years. Meteor contrails go back centuries, and some of those have been described as persistent and spreading. Spreading and persistent contrails have been seen for 70 years. The science of contrail formation is 60 years old, the Appleman chart (1953).

Contrails have been acknowledged as a type of pollution. Contrails can change the weather, making it warmer at night and cooler in the day. Contrails are known to affect climate by changing the radiative forcing.

The Air Force goes to great lengths to avoid contrail formation, planes become easy targets if they leave a contrail, see Appleman again. Commercial aircraft fly the shortest routes with engines that use the least fuel. These tend to mean contrails get formed.

There have been hundreds of studies, explanations, mathematical models, ground tests, in situ measurements made. Why should that be abandoned because someone makes wild ass, unverified, and unverifiable claims?

Science is based on reason and logic. By letting emotion get in the way it clouds your vision. Step back and ask yourself the hard questions. If you can refute all the hard questions, then you might have something. A good researcher welcomes criticism. Einstein was the biggest critic of quantum mechanics. He asked questions only Einstein could ask. Even though he never personally accepted it, he help found the quantum revolution and made it stronger through his criticism.

The history of science is littered with too many people that have jumped the gun and made claims before they were verified. The story of Pons and Fleischman come to mine for one. Some are also too quick to desire a paradigm shift even though the claim is unsupported by evidence, Hoyle for example. Then others fail to embrace a paradigm shift, Wegener’s idea is one such example.

Learn the terminology. Conjecture, hypothesis, and theory are not the same. A conjecture is a guess, a hypothesis is a testable statement, and a theory is a well substantiated idea verified by experiment and mathematics. A theory makes predictions that have been independently verified.

Understand falsifiability. Any statement has to be worded so that some evidence can falsify the claim. The statement “There are plaid fish in Lake Michigan” is not falsifiable. You cannot sample every single location, hiding hole, inlet, or outlet simultaneously to falsify the claim. Lack of catching a plaid fish does not falsify the claim, there still could be plaid fish somewhere you haven’t looked. But the statement “No fish in Lake Michigan are plaid” is falsifiable. All it takes is one plaid fish and the statement has been rendered false.
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I'm glad that chemtards will never know how stupid they are.

Free entertainment forever.
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If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic. I almost envy you.
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Like you dont? Same argument.....
You would say the exact same, but its like arguing with
a 5 year old, they will never see.
Agree to disagree?
Someone called me out for trying to approach this
like an adult, but thats what I have always done and
intend to do. This is the next logical step. Sooo
whatever man, believe im a physicist or not,
but when you get lung cancer and youve never smoked
a day in your life, dont come bitchin to the chemtards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70539575



Perfect example of pseudoscience. Refusing to acknowledge that lung cancer could be caused by more mundane sources, such as cars, factories, power plants, etc. Jump to a conclusion before you have any of the facts.





GLP