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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41539328 United States 07/27/2013 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory . Quoting: veracious common sense according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion chimps have 28 billion..... am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight? lol Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?" ya really. 58 billion neurons difference in what a few hundred millions years according to them..\ damn those early chimps must have came across some magical banana bush or some miracle water... And you've also got to understand that we didn't jump straight from chimps to humans, there were several in between stages. Chimpanzees are the closest living evolutionary ancestors to us, but our actual closest "cousins" are all dead for some reason. And are direct ancestor is unknown, the so called "missing link". This is partly why I am under the impression that our evolution was "helped along" by some outside force, and the previous "versions" of us were intentionally wiped out. Whether it was extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional or divine influence, I'm not sure. |
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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/27/2013 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory . Quoting: veracious common sense according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion chimps have 28 billion..... am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight? lol Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?" ya really. 58 billion neurons difference in what a few hundred millions years according to them..\ damn those early chimps must have came across some magical banana bush or some miracle water... And you've also got to understand that we didn't jump straight from chimps to humans, there were several in between stages. Chimpanzees are the closest living evolutionary ancestors to us, but our actual closest "cousins" are all dead for some reason. And are direct ancestor is unknown, the so called "missing link". This is partly why I am under the impression that our evolution was "helped along" by some outside force, and the previous "versions" of us were intentionally wiped out. Whether it was extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional or divine influence, I'm not sure. agreed !!! "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
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User ID: 25570375 United States 07/27/2013 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Consider this: Every single multicellular life form on the planet has certain things in common: - Cold blooded - Egg laying - Scales or feathers (which are a genetic derivative of scales) - Sideways pointed eyes EXCEPT mammals... - warm blooded - live birthing - fur and skin - forward pointed eyes ...which suddenly pop up 65 million years ago out of nowhere? - Kai David Kravit (VALIS) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have been doing this for a number of years now in the form of ECT for treating severe depression and such related illness. That also comes with its own set of unpredictable results for the patients memory. Makes you wonder if doctors are just using us as guinea pigs sometimes still. |
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User ID: 25570375 United States 07/27/2013 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have been doing this for a number of years now in the form of ECT for treating severe depression and such related illness. That also comes with its own set of unpredictable results for the patients memory. Makes you wonder if doctors are just using us as guinea pigs sometimes still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12900691 Makes you wonder if the doctors are guinea pigs unknowingly using us as guinea pigs. - Kai David Kravit (VALIS) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43333846 United States 07/27/2013 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have been doing this for a number of years now in the form of ECT for treating severe depression and such related illness. That also comes with its own set of unpredictable results for the patients memory. Makes you wonder if doctors are just using us as guinea pigs sometimes still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12900691 Makes you wonder if the doctors are guinea pigs unknowingly using us as guinea pigs. why wonder when we are all more or less experiments in a larger experiment of experiments. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have been doing this for a number of years now in the form of ECT for treating severe depression and such related illness. That also comes with its own set of unpredictable results for the patients memory. Makes you wonder if doctors are just using us as guinea pigs sometimes still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12900691 Makes you wonder if the doctors are guinea pigs unknowingly using us as guinea pigs. why wonder when we are all more or less experiments in a larger experiment of experiments. Ran by a secret organisation of evil experimental guinea pigs.. I think I am getting this conspiracy malarky now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43333846 United States 07/27/2013 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have been doing this for a number of years now in the form of ECT for treating severe depression and such related illness. That also comes with its own set of unpredictable results for the patients memory. Makes you wonder if doctors are just using us as guinea pigs sometimes still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12900691 Makes you wonder if the doctors are guinea pigs unknowingly using us as guinea pigs. why wonder when we are all more or less experiments in a larger experiment of experiments. Ran by a secret organisation of evil experimental guinea pigs.. I think I am getting this conspiracy malarky now. if you gravitate to this forum it shows reactive implanted memories, if not they are dormant still awaiting a stronger stimuli. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: PKDK (VALIS24/42) Makes you wonder if the doctors are guinea pigs unknowingly using us as guinea pigs. why wonder when we are all more or less experiments in a larger experiment of experiments. Ran by a secret organisation of evil experimental guinea pigs.. I think I am getting this conspiracy malarky now. if you gravitate to this forum it shows reactive implanted memories, if not they are dormant still awaiting a stronger stimuli. I will skip the beer next time and head straight for the vodka.. Thanks for the advice. :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41804689 United States 07/27/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :falsemem1: Quoting: Lady Bathory "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... :falsemem2: Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | neet nice find OP Quoting: veracious common sense now just stop and think about it for a minute. mk ultra was being perfected in the 1950-60's and on.... now this is mainstream, but its in the form of doing it to rodents. really old technology being made public 30 years later. typical of the military industrial complex. anyways lets get back to the rabbit hole. JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE HAVE NOW AND ARE PERFECTING DEEP DOWN IN THOSE D.U.M.B's Exactly. Pretty scary thought. "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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User ID: 25570375 United States 07/27/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. It wouldn't matter either way, would it? All we can do is keep moving. And also...due to quantum indeterminency, we could be dead and dimensionally speaking we would be alive somewhere at the same time. So again...doesn't matter either way. - Kai David Kravit (VALIS) |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think this is anything new. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43974499 They have done shit like this since the 60s. Mind altering drugs lsd and all sorts of shit were tested on people, along with implanted thoughts, even sleepers who were assassins and wouldn't know it until they heard some key word or phrase that activated them like the manchurian candidate or telefon Yes, they have. But it's just now becoming "public news" ;) "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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Lady Bathory
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Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have no basis for calling these "memories." What they have done is aversion conditioning. It's like asking someone to remember the last time they had a cigarette, then giving them an electric shock. The next next time the person goes to light up, he associates the shock with smoking and doesn't want to smoke so much. The scientists calling false memory creation is a stretch. You'd have to ask the mice how they experience the trigger. Scientists are so full of shit these days. The goal is to discredit memories of victims of pedophiles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7929103 Very good point! "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory . Quoting: veracious common sense according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion chimps have 28 billion..... am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight? lol Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?" ya really. 58 billion neurons difference in what a few hundred millions years according to them..\ damn those early chimps must have came across some magical banana bush or some miracle water... And you've also got to understand that we didn't jump straight from chimps to humans, there were several in between stages. Chimpanzees are the closest living evolutionary ancestors to us, but our actual closest "cousins" are all dead for some reason. And are direct ancestor is unknown, the so called "missing link". This is partly why I am under the impression that our evolution was "helped along" by some outside force, and the previous "versions" of us were intentionally wiped out. Whether it was extraterrestrial or extra-dimensional or divine influence, I'm not sure. "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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User ID: 25570375 United States 07/27/2013 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can also teleport. Just not as quickly or with as much precision as the dolphins. That explains all the mice stuck halfway into the walls with their feet and tails hanging out... Well....they warned Tesla...he tried to stop the experiment...they gave it to the new guy... - Kai David Kravit (VALIS) |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps people with scizoeffective disorders can be made to see 'demons' instead of people? Quoting: PKDK (VALIS24/42) They most certainly can. I think probably half of all demonic encounters have actually been dormant memories (or twisted memories) of abuse, ETC. Crazy stuff... "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/27/2013 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can also teleport. Just not as quickly or with as much precision as the dolphins. That explains all the mice stuck halfway into the walls with their feet and tails hanging out... ahhh thats a familiar story to many soldiers out at sea being fused into the steel walls of the ship "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
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User ID: 25570375 United States 07/27/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps people with scizoeffective disorders can be made to see 'demons' instead of people? Quoting: PKDK (VALIS24/42) They most certainly can. I think probably half of all demonic encounters have actually been dormant memories (or twisted memories) of abuse, ETC. Crazy stuff... Again...can anyone say..."________ Hook?" - Kai David Kravit (VALIS) |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. I've definitely wondered that a few times. Maybe we're all in hell already... hmmm... "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can also teleport. Just not as quickly or with as much precision as the dolphins. That explains all the mice stuck halfway into the walls with their feet and tails hanging out... ahhh thats a familiar story to many soldiers out at sea being fused into the steel walls of the ship Loved that Fringe did a shout out to Project Rainbow in one of their storylines. Freakin loved Fringe. |