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"Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information."

>>> [link to www.cnn.com]

This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them.

Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock.

Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think.

This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows...

The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder...


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Coulda sworn I left that cheese here the other day? wtf
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neet nice find OP

now just stop and think about it for a minute.
mk ultra was being perfected in the 1950-60's and on....

now this is mainstream, but its in the form of doing it to rodents. really old technology being made public 30 years later.

typical of the military industrial complex.

anyways lets get back to the rabbit hole.

JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE HAVE NOW AND ARE PERFECTING DEEP DOWN IN THOSE D.U.M.B's

wtf
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Coulda sworn I left that cheese here the other day? wtf
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This is fucked up.
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It is rather funny that the best they can think to do with this technology is implant memories which make people feel guilty. You'd think they'd come up with something more imaginative.
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Coulda sworn I left that cheese here the other day? wtf
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They can also teleport. Just not as quickly or with as much precision as the dolphins.
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They will be calling each other by the wrong name next.
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I dont think this is anything new.
They have done shit like this since the 60s.

Mind altering drugs lsd and all sorts of shit were tested on people, along with implanted thoughts, even sleepers who were assassins and wouldn't know it until they heard some key word or phrase that activated them like the manchurian candidate or telefon
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I dont think this is anything new.
They have done shit like this since the 60s.

Mind altering drugs lsd and all sorts of shit were tested on people, along with implanted thoughts, even sleepers who were assassins and wouldn't know it until they heard some key word or phrase that activated them like the manchurian candidate or telefon
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Can anyone say _____ "hook?"
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they have been doing this to all the new agers and ufo chasers since the 50's
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they have been doing this to all the new agers and ufo chasers since the 50's
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...only they didn't plan on a certain satellite transmitting REAL memories to the same people. Or at least ones that didn't include homicidal or suicidal thoughts.
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
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Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?"
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they have been doing this to all the new agers and ufo chasers since the 50's
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It was a bloody weather balloon! Turns out It was also the weatherman who probed me. s226

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they have been doing this to all the new agers and ufo chasers since the 50's
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It was a bloody weather balloon! Turns out It was also the weatherman who probed me. s226

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No, no....they admitted in 1997 that it was "Project: Mogul." But then...they lied for 50 years...guess we can't trust them EVER now...
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
 Quoting: veracious common sense


overnight, thousands/millions of years, same thing...
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What if you could literally upload and download memories?

It is possible, but not here or now.
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
 Quoting: veracious common sense


Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?"
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ya really.

58 billion neurons difference in what a few hundred millions years according to them..\

damn those early chimps must have came across some magical banana bush or some miracle water...
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
 Quoting: veracious common sense


Can we also say..."genetic manipulation?"
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ohyeah
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What if you could literally upload and download memories?

It is possible, but not here or now.
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Actually it is. Scientists found recently that amphetamines contain the necessary components for erasing and rewriting "brain code." Hmmmm....
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one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory .

according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion
chimps have 28 billion.....


am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight?

lol
 Quoting: veracious common sense


overnight, thousands/millions of years, same thing...
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pretty much when you take into account the timeline of neanderthal man and cro mag, before.......

its not rocket science here


sorry for my sarcastic way of saying it.....lol
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They have no basis for calling these "memories." What they have done is aversion conditioning. It's like asking someone to remember the last time they had a cigarette, then giving them an electric shock. The next next time the person goes to light up, he associates the shock with smoking and doesn't want to smoke so much. The scientists calling false memory creation is a stretch. You'd have to ask the mice how they experience the trigger. Scientists are so full of shit these days. The goal is to discredit memories of victims of pedophiles.
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They have no basis for calling these "memories." What they have done is aversion conditioning. It's like asking someone to remember the last time they had a cigarette, then giving them an electric shock. The next next time the person goes to light up, he associates the shock with smoking and doesn't want to smoke so much. The scientists calling false memory creation is a stretch. You'd have to ask the mice how they experience the trigger. Scientists are so full of shit these days. The goal is to discredit memories of victims of pedophiles.
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yes that is how it is done, lots of traumatic conditioning and memory fragmentation.
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They have no basis for calling these "memories." What they have done is aversion conditioning. It's like asking someone to remember the last time they had a cigarette, then giving them an electric shock. The next next time the person goes to light up, he associates the shock with smoking and doesn't want to smoke so much. The scientists calling false memory creation is a stretch. You'd have to ask the mice how they experience the trigger. Scientists are so full of shit these days. The goal is to discredit memories of victims of pedophiles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7929103



its sinister 100% anyway you want to look at it.

as for memories of victims being deleted, those high up in power, who do that heinous act, are certain to have no worries of that ever happening to them........
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What if you could literally upload and download memories?

It is possible, but not here or now.
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Actually it is. Scientists found recently that amphetamines contain the necessary components for erasing and rewriting "brain code." Hmmmm....
 Quoting: PKDK (VALIS24/42)


Interesting...correlation to the Miami Cannibal? Never saw that one before...

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