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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/27/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. I've definitely wondered that a few times. Maybe we're all in hell already... hmmm... did you hear the one about "us" being a giant super cpu that evolves with memory here [link to arxiv.org] A new scientific paper published in arXiv and co-authored by Silas Beane from the University of Bonn reveals strong statistical evidence that our reality is, indeed, a grand computer simulation. The title of the paper is Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation. "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/27/2013 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pdf here if you got a few hours to wrap your head around it, go for it.. ponder this theory. [link to arxiv.org] "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :falsemem1: Quoting: Lady Bathory "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... :falsemem2: Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. I've definitely wondered that a few times. Maybe we're all in hell already... hmmm... did you hear the one about "us" being a giant super cpu that evolves with memory here [link to arxiv.org] A new scientific paper published in arXiv and co-authored by Silas Beane from the University of Bonn reveals strong statistical evidence that our reality is, indeed, a grand computer simulation. The title of the paper is Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation. I find eating some mushrooms do not make me any taller but they did once make me think I was a flying raccoon so maybe it's on to something? |
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User ID: 44052732 United States 07/27/2013 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they should let mice gnaw the balls off these scientists. the Hippocratic oath says 'do no harm' that applies to animals as well. These people should not be allowed to legally practice any medicine whatsoever on animals or people, and if they are caught doing so they should have their nuts removed and be lobotomized. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12900691 United Kingdom 07/27/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they should let mice gnaw the balls off these scientists. Quoting: Exacerbator the Hippocratic oath says 'do no harm' that applies to animals as well. These people should not be allowed to legally practice any medicine whatsoever on animals or people, and if they are caught doing so they should have their nuts removed and be lobotomized. You look throughout history and think will come to realise the Hippocratic oath means F all when comes down to it. Anything is legal behind closed doors when comes down to experimentation and not just on animals. Not even closed doors in some cases. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43912263 United States 07/27/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to en.wikipedia.org] “Everything you can imagine is real.” ― Pablo Picasso Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Wake up (or down as neither exist) The universe is made of events and the laws that govern them. There are enough traces in the present to construct events in the past, at the scales that can be captured in the present, by statistics. There is no difference between dead people and any other historical data. The maths and computing needed for resurrection already exists. Micro robots are already prototyping in labs. “…information is incapable of being destroyed — that is the deepest physics I know.” Leonard Susskind. |
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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/27/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pay attention- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43912263 [link to en.wikipedia.org] “Everything you can imagine is real.” ― Pablo Picasso Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Wake up (or down as neither exist) The universe is made of events and the laws that govern them. There are enough traces in the present to construct events in the past, at the scales that can be captured in the present, by statistics. There is no difference between dead people and any other historical data. The maths and computing needed for resurrection already exists. Micro robots are already prototyping in labs. “…information is incapable of being destroyed — that is the deepest physics I know.” Leonard Susskind. great thanks a lot now i have to go smoke a joint to take this one in..lol nothing new under the sun ! "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
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Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Scientists say they have, for the first time, generated a false memory in an animal by manipulating brain cells that encode that information." >>> [link to www.cnn.com] This news is a couple days old, but I just found out about it and had to share. Pretty creepy stuff. Also pretty cool if you're a Science Fiction/Fact nut like I am. Movies like The Matrix, Inception and Total Recall, as well as TV shows like Nikita could all have a little truth to them. Apparently, the scientists "shocked" the mice in a particular area, and later when the mice were introduced to a similar area, they froze in fear because of the supposed shock. Could this be proof that humans can also have false memories implanted in their brains? And if so, is it already happening? Could this be more proof of MK-Ultra's existence and methods? Certainly makes you think. This could also explain some past life memories. I personally believe in reincarnation, but again, this makes you wonder... Can people be implanted with false memories of past lives? And can we be "inceptioned" in our dreams? Who knows... The upside to this discovery is that it could eventually lead to a better understanding of the brain, and possibly even help us discover new ways of improving memory. The downside however is that if the wrong people with the wrong motives figure out how to implant false memories in humans (if they haven't already), it could be bad news for some. Luckily, the human brain is much more advanced than that of a mouse, so this could be irrelevant, but it still makes you wonder... Imagine if life is one big false memory, and in reality we are already dead. I've definitely wondered that a few times. Maybe we're all in hell already... hmmm... did you hear the one about "us" being a giant super cpu that evolves with memory here [link to arxiv.org] A new scientific paper published in arXiv and co-authored by Silas Beane from the University of Bonn reveals strong statistical evidence that our reality is, indeed, a grand computer simulation. The title of the paper is Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation. See? The Matrix is totally possible. "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pdf here Quoting: veracious common sense if you got a few hours to wrap your head around it, go for it.. ponder this theory. [link to arxiv.org] Hmmm might check it out thanks! "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43912263 United States 07/27/2013 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pay attention- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43912263 [link to en.wikipedia.org] “Everything you can imagine is real.” ― Pablo Picasso Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Wake up (or down as neither exist) The universe is made of events and the laws that govern them. There are enough traces in the present to construct events in the past, at the scales that can be captured in the present, by statistics. There is no difference between dead people and any other historical data. The maths and computing needed for resurrection already exists. Micro robots are already prototyping in labs. “…information is incapable of being destroyed — that is the deepest physics I know.” Leonard Susskind. great thanks a lot now i have to go smoke a joint to take this one in..lol nothing new under the sun ! Plants are your friend. No-Thing is new, yet we can experience it as such....awesome design. Much, much more fun when we are the author in love, versus handing over authorship. |
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Lady Bathory
(OP) User ID: 11118 United States 07/27/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pay attention- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43912263 [link to en.wikipedia.org] “Everything you can imagine is real.” ― Pablo Picasso Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Wake up (or down as neither exist) The universe is made of events and the laws that govern them. There are enough traces in the present to construct events in the past, at the scales that can be captured in the present, by statistics. There is no difference between dead people and any other historical data. The maths and computing needed for resurrection already exists. Micro robots are already prototyping in labs. “…information is incapable of being destroyed — that is the deepest physics I know.” Leonard Susskind. Oh boy, zombies and robots too. Just a matter of time. "I am alive, I'm just playing dead." |
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GodIsEvil
User ID: 43999975 Australia 07/27/2013 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory . Quoting: veracious common sense according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion chimps have 28 billion..... am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight? lol evolution doesn't say we evolved from chimps |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43912263 United States 07/27/2013 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pay attention- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43912263 [link to en.wikipedia.org] “Everything you can imagine is real.” ― Pablo Picasso Clarke's Three Laws are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke. They are: When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Wake up (or down as neither exist) The universe is made of events and the laws that govern them. There are enough traces in the present to construct events in the past, at the scales that can be captured in the present, by statistics. There is no difference between dead people and any other historical data. The maths and computing needed for resurrection already exists. Micro robots are already prototyping in labs. “…information is incapable of being destroyed — that is the deepest physics I know.” Leonard Susskind. Oh boy, zombies and robots too. Just a matter of time. No, no time, they are already here....that's the point. Do you not see them? Or are you one? Being fearful of something that might be coming when it has always been here is kind of redundant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1941323 United States 07/27/2013 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG. imagine tens of housands of hungry mice implanted with The Memory of Mouse smorgasbord and orgy in the bed or your political enemy. Humana have already been proven to be capably to have false memories. The study involved Bugs Bunny. I forgert who owns Bugs, but visigoda to a theme park that diez NOT and therefore would now allow him on The grounds, could be induced to have clear memories of Bugs in that park. Just through interviews. No drive or special technique needed. Males you question The value of interrogation, doesnt it? |
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User ID: 1462016 Canada 07/28/2013 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one more thing according to mainstream science we evolved from chimps, evolution, a theory . Quoting: veracious common sense according to that brain neuron chart, humans have 86 billion chimps have 28 billion..... am i missing something here.....58 billion neurons difference overnight? lol evolution doesn't say we evolved from chimps obviously, the story goes earlier cave like dumb asses came from chimp like monkeys flinging shit... but the dudes theory says we did. so thats what most think. "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
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Ms. Superduper
User ID: 15016867 United States 07/28/2013 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | neet nice find OP Quoting: veracious common sense now just stop and think about it for a minute. mk ultra was being perfected in the 1950-60's and on.... now this is mainstream, but its in the form of doing it to rodents. really old technology being made public 30 years later. typical of the military industrial complex. anyways lets get back to the rabbit hole. JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE HAVE NOW AND ARE PERFECTING DEEP DOWN IN THOSE D.U.M.B's Yep. That's how they do it, some thirty year later. I think this has happened to many humans. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
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