chemtrails ???

The are all contrails.

Sometimes contrails are ephemeral and dissipate as quickly as they form; other times, depending on atmospheric conditions, contrails persist and grow wide enough to cover a substantial portion of the sky with a sheet of cirrostratus.

To make this concept simple for you, and not confuse you with the more complex physics of SUBLIMATION, because most people who believe in chemtrails have no understanding of physics. Contrails either dissipate or last depending on mainly two main conditions at fight levels (there are more, but like I said, I will keep it simple). Temperature, and Moisture content of the atomosphere. Contrails are made of ice crystals, much like snow flakes. Why do some snow flakes melt, and some stick around? Temperature and moisture content at ground level. The SAME SCIENCE. Basically if the air at flight levels is dryer or warmer, the contrails will dissappear quickly. If the air is very cold and supersaturated with moisture, the contrails will remain and form clouds. And then you have the conditions everywhere in between.

Now, when you learn how these conditions work, you will understand why you see more long lasting persistent contrails in front of weather systems. The uneducated will say "Chemtrails caused storms". Those with a basic understanding of Meteorology know the storm system created the conditions for persistent contrails out in front of the system.vv
Now for some basic science of Meteorology for the chemtrail believers. When a cold front or storm system is moving in, its cold dry air, that system is like a giant bulldozer that is pushing supersaturated air up high in the atmosphere. And that is a lot of times you see long lasting contrails before up to days before storms.

Sorry to ruin your thread with science. But I felt it was needed.

completely appreciate explanations like this

but...the crazies don't debate...they only get defensive, transfer and gaslight

otherwise their world comes crashing down

1) Increased levels of aluminum and barium in soil tests seem to disagree. Also, look at satellite photos from the 1980's compared to now.

2) Air traffic is NOT substantially higher than it was 20 years ago and most airplanes in production at that time are STILL active today (e.g. same equipment). They are crazy expensive and are not replaced often.

3) Someone is lying. Period. Who do you believe? GOV or citizens?

4) Having been around since the 60's I can tell you that the sky is not the same. The number of days of hazy silver skies are increasing. Just look up.

5) Why does a two or three engine jet have four or 5 "contrails"? Observe for yourself.

6) Video after video shows people seeing these chemicals being ejected from planes.

Peace.

Holy shit this thread is filled with shills who haven't even tried to research chemtrails... Some of the posts here are such a waste of time to even begin replying to, knowing that they aren't going to care anyway because they're simply paid shills.

We're hitting a nerve.

holy shit this thread is filled with chemtards without a shred of evidence or scientific knowledge

we've been hitting a nerve because the chemtards keep walking out in traffic

but ...fuck it, roadkill...do what you want

we're going to stay on the side though....and watch the mayhem...not be a part of it

You'd help your case quite a bit if you quit assaulting people that have opposing viewpoints. Just sayin'

First of all, googling things doesn't equate to correct information. In fact if you google "chemtrail" you'll even get GLP links! What would be most helpful for your case against chemtrails is posting actual scientific studies relating to this phenomenon. The problem is, that since the GOV denies their existence, there's nothing to study, hence no reports. This is why it's a conspiracy theory. Note the word theory here.

Acid rain levels have actually DECREASED in the U.S. over the past 30 years substantially. That's a phenomena we actually know quite a bit about. Quite a few lakes in Pennsylvania will probably be contaminated for many generations to come. Apples and oranges here.

As to the aerodynamic contrails and hydrocarbon combustion, some of that is indeed correct. However, over time (you can see it in real time), you'll notice that the diffusion takes on a silvery/gold color that is inconsistent with WHITE contrails. Also, aren't newer engines (if that's really the case) MORE EFFICIENT? That would mean less hydrocarbon exhaust, right? Again, most airplanes in service today are the same ones they've been using for the past 20 years. Airlines are not going to change our engines unless they are DOA. Too much cost to justify replacement for the sake of efficiency.

How do you explain a commerical jet that actually makes crosshatched patterns in the air ON PURPOSE? 100 miles long? Are these confused pilots or are they out for LULZ? I've seen this with my own eyes. How do you explain the fact that they start and stop at seemingly random places. For example, many have seen the contrail/chemtrail suddenly STOP and then START again?

Finally, when a person shoots a video from the window of a plane showing chemicals spewing out of an airplane, why do you call them chemtards and stupid? All they are doing is witnessing an event and reporting it. You can decide what it is you are seeing.

Peace.

Lol...

Chemtards call those of us who disagree..."shills".

Why don't you chastise them about that?!

There is plenty of information about atmospheric science and persistent contrails.....in books.

Acid rain levels have decreased, but it's still happening, and these elements are still being leached from soil. The ions are still spreading in the oil, air and ground water...and he ions have been there since time began. There is no evidence that the levels have "increased" because of anything to do with the trails. Also, there are plenty of industrial and commercial uses for these elements. To blame them on the trails, is stupid. There is no evidence if any correlation.

Silvery gold color?!

Lol...light refraction/diffusion?!

No, more efficient, as in more thrust per engine. Less engines needed...but more water vapor created PER engine. And you are right...MOST. Planes in service today were around 20 years ago, so?! Persistent contrails have been around for 80 plus years. Airlines ADD planes with efficient engines. They don't necessarily replace the older planes. Both types of planes are still in the air. The ones with more efficient engines will produce persistent contrails where the planes with older engines at not.

The patterns are just air routes within the proper conditions for persistent contrails.

[link to contrailscience.com]

To suggest that flight paths don't intersect, is stupid. The start-stop trails are the airplanes flying through drier or warmer patches of air. Nothing more...what do you assume? Pilots playing with the switch? Clogged nozzle?

Lol

And when chemtards make videos and claim the trails are chemicals, they deserve to be called stupid for making ignorant assumptions. And making statements of fact about subjects they only pretend to understand.

The are all contrails.

Sometimes contrails are ephemeral and dissipate as quickly as they form; other times, depending on atmospheric conditions, contrails persist and grow wide enough to cover a substantial portion of the sky with a sheet of cirrostratus.

To make this concept simple for you, and not confuse you with the more complex physics of SUBLIMATION, because most people who believe in chemtrails have no understanding of physics. Contrails either dissipate or last depending on mainly two main conditions at fight levels (there are more, but like I said, I will keep it simple). Temperature, and Moisture content of the atomosphere. Contrails are made of ice crystals, much like snow flakes. Why do some snow flakes melt, and some stick around? Temperature and moisture content at ground level. The SAME SCIENCE. Basically if the air at flight levels is dryer or warmer, the contrails will dissappear quickly. If the air is very cold and supersaturated with moisture, the contrails will remain and form clouds. And then you have the conditions everywhere in between.

Now, when you learn how these conditions work, you will understand why you see more long lasting persistent contrails in front of weather systems. The uneducated will say "Chemtrails caused storms". Those with a basic understanding of Meteorology know the storm system created the conditions for persistent contrails out in front of the system.vv
Now for some basic science of Meteorology for the chemtrail believers. When a cold front or storm system is moving in, its cold dry air, that system is like a giant bulldozer that is pushing supersaturated air up high in the atmosphere. And that is a lot of times you see long lasting contrails before up to days before storms.

Sorry to ruin your thread with science. But I felt it was needed.