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Harmonix

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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


1:44:45 to be exact.

Then the dispatcher says: "Possible second shooter still at large."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


That's four possible suspects: One suspect that let the door open, James Holmes in riot gear, someone in a blue plaid shirt, and someone seated in theater 8.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


And THIS...
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I wonder when James "sat down" behind his car. Where is he right now while they are describing him? His car was right behind the door right? Sounds like there are all kinds of cops back there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5100558


Exactly! How the fuck would this guy even be able to get anywhere near the back exit, let alone actually outside to his car?

All this on top of the fact there's the AR-15/flip-fops/riot shield/blood trail clearly leading into the theater... Doesn't make much sense, it's all fucked up.
 Quoting: Harmonix


You obviously did NOT listen to the audio. It's clear as day. You have to use headphones and listen to one side only to separate the dual audio tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17783854


"At 52:00 an officer says a construction worke sees a man leaving with a red backpack up Alameda. But then less than a minute later they report another witness says shooter is in black cammo with vest, gas mask, and multiple long guns.

A few minutes later around 55:10 they identify him as James Holmes, so they obviously physically have him at that point."

Yea so that would make it around 27 minutes from the time they got the report, to the time he was apparently apprehended.

So you people are saying that in 27 minutes the police failed to have any kind of hold on the back exit and allowed a guy who just shot 50+ people to walk out and get in his car? No officers/SWAT team/paramedics/firefighters seen him apparently galavanting around inside the theater and out the door?

I find this extremely hard to believe...
 Quoting: Harmonix


I agree -- clearly this is the weakest link in the whole official story.
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


1:44:45 to be exact.

Then the dispatcher says: "Possible second shooter still at large."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Then she clearly says "keep the media away from them".

Maybe, Handler in #8, shooter in #9, James (the patsy) sitting outside ready to be given the crazy juice so he starts acting like their prime suspect...handler and shooter either got away early or blended in with the crowd and went through processing all calm, cool, and collected and were let go after "debriefing".

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I suspect James Holmes shot randomly, and the Theater 8 guy had specific targets.
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Yes. Obviously they don't want this to leak into the MSM and be exposed or else this goes from a 'gun control' issue to something altogether different that doesn't further their 'gun control' agenda.
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07/24/2012 04:36 PM
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That was the whole reason I posted this, clearly stated two shooters like you pointed out starts just around 1:44:36

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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Yes. Obviously they don't want this to leak into the MSM andbe exposed or else this goes from a 'gun control' issue to something altogether different that doesn't further they 'gun control' agenda.
 Quoting: tandym


There were three too many military cyber-spies among the 12 reported killed, for my taste.
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07/24/2012 04:38 PM
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That was the whole reason I posted this, clearly stated two shooters like you pointed out starts just around 1:44:36

Mall door found open
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Good on you for posting this audio, OP!
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Yes. Obviously they don't want this to leak into the MSM andbe exposed or else this goes from a 'gun control' issue to something altogether different that doesn't further they 'gun control' agenda.
 Quoting: tandym


There were three too many military cyber-spies among the 12 reported killed, for my taste.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Do you have a link for that?? I haven't read that yet.... the plot thickens.
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Exactly! How the fuck would this guy even be able to get anywhere near the back exit, let alone actually outside to his car?

All this on top of the fact there's the AR-15/flip-fops/riot shield/blood trail clearly leading into the theater... Doesn't make much sense, it's all fucked up.
 Quoting: Harmonix


You obviously did NOT listen to the audio. It's clear as day. You have to use headphones and listen to one side only to separate the dual audio tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17783854


"At 52:00 an officer says a construction worke sees a man leaving with a red backpack up Alameda. But then less than a minute later they report another witness says shooter is in black cammo with vest, gas mask, and multiple long guns.

A few minutes later around 55:10 they identify him as James Holmes, so they obviously physically have him at that point."

Yea so that would make it around 27 minutes from the time they got the report, to the time he was apparently apprehended.

So you people are saying that in 27 minutes the police failed to have any kind of hold on the back exit and allowed a guy who just shot 50+ people to walk out and get in his car? No officers/SWAT team/paramedics/firefighters seen him apparently galavanting around inside the theater and out the door?

I find this extremely hard to believe...
 Quoting: Harmonix


I agree -- clearly this is the weakest link in the whole official story.
 Quoting: tandym


Yea we're not dealing with rocket appliances here people...

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07/24/2012 04:40 PM
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Yes. Obviously they don't want this to leak into the MSM andbe exposed or else this goes from a 'gun control' issue to something altogether different that doesn't further they 'gun control' agenda.
 Quoting: tandym


There were three too many military cyber-spies among the 12 reported killed, for my taste.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Do you have a link for that?? I haven't read that yet.... the plot thickens.
 Quoting: tandym


You can find links here: Thread: Military Cyber-spies targeted in Aurora/Denver Colorado shooting?
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07/24/2012 04:42 PM
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I want to know WHO was in this theater that needed to be eliminated.
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07/24/2012 04:44 PM
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Exactly! How the fuck would this guy even be able to get anywhere near the back exit, let alone actually outside to his car?

All this on top of the fact there's the AR-15/flip-fops/riot shield/blood trail clearly leading into the theater... Doesn't make much sense, it's all fucked up.
 Quoting: Harmonix


You obviously did NOT listen to the audio. It's clear as day. You have to use headphones and listen to one side only to separate the dual audio tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17783854


"At 52:00 an officer says a construction worke sees a man leaving with a red backpack up Alameda. But then less than a minute later they report another witness says shooter is in black cammo with vest, gas mask, and multiple long guns.

A few minutes later around 55:10 they identify him as James Holmes, so they obviously physically have him at that point."

Yea so that would make it around 27 minutes from the time they got the report, to the time he was apparently apprehended.

So you people are saying that in 27 minutes the police failed to have any kind of hold on the back exit and allowed a guy who just shot 50+ people to walk out and get in his car? No officers/SWAT team/paramedics/firefighters seen him apparently galavanting around inside the theater and out the door?

I find this extremely hard to believe...
 Quoting: Harmonix


I agree -- clearly this is the weakest link in the whole official story.
 Quoting: tandym



From listening to this audio, it doesn't sound like the area was secure for quite a while. It sounds like a family of gunmen could have limped out, gotten in a vehicle and walked or driven away while the patsy stayed behind for arrest.
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Yes. Obviously they don't want this to leak into the MSM andbe exposed or else this goes from a 'gun control' issue to something altogether different that doesn't further they 'gun control' agenda.
 Quoting: tandym


There were three too many military cyber-spies among the 12 reported killed, for my taste.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Do you have a link for that?? I haven't read that yet.... the plot thickens.
 Quoting: tandym


You can find links here: Thread: Military Cyber-spies targeted in Aurora/Denver Colorado shooting?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


Interesting comment here from yesterday, too: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Unfortunately, they didn't leave any links...
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07/24/2012 04:54 PM
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CREEPY. They obtained ID AND photographs of all the witness before the let them leave.

I wonder if that's standard procedure?
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07/24/2012 05:03 PM
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


This makes sense with the report I saw with the guy that said he was in 8 and it filled with smoke when someone threw a pepper bomb. If James was shooting up 9 how would 8 fill up?
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


BINGO! Clear as day...

siren2
 Quoting: Harmonix


Yes. Seems unlikely that people would report a gunman having been seated in Theater 8 if they saw no such thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


It seems pretty likely that in the panic and confusion, and that bullets went through the walls of the theater, and being right next to theater 9....

Gunfire
Bullets going through wall into theater 8
panic
confusion


People went..."I think someone else is shooting in theater 8".


Radio traffic during events like this are pretty worthless.


Witnesses had police chasing some buick with supposedly having bullet holes in it riding on 24 inch rims thanks to witnesses saying they saw it drive from the scene at a high rate of speed.

Of course, with eyewitness testimony, especially in such high stress situations like this, it would be likely that you would have some saying the guy was black wearing a baseball cap, a white guy wearing a pink shirt etc.etc.
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At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


BINGO! Clear as day...

siren2
 Quoting: Harmonix


Yes. Seems unlikely that people would report a gunman having been seated in Theater 8 if they saw no such thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356


It seems pretty likely that in the panic and confusion, and that bullets went through the walls of the theater, and being right next to theater 9....

Gunfire
Bullets going through wall into theater 8
panic
confusion


People went..."I think someone else is shooting in theater 8".


Radio traffic during events like this are pretty worthless.


Witnesses had police chasing some buick with supposedly having bullet holes in it riding on 24 inch rims thanks to witnesses saying they saw it drive from the scene at a high rate of speed.

Of course, with eyewitness testimony, especially in such high stress situations like this, it would be likely that you would have some saying the guy was black wearing a baseball cap, a white guy wearing a pink shirt etc.etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18665062


again your idea is possable, but the witness and police stated, we have one sitting DOWN in theater 8, if it was just gunfire peircing the wall, why would they state they saw someone, how did the smoke get in that theater? just thinking out loud
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se with the report I saw with the guy that said he was in 8 and it filled with smoke when someone threw a pepper bomb. If James was shooting up 9 how would 8 fill up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19558638


Something like 60 injuries, with some in theater 8 (bullets supposedly went through walls).

What needs answered:

1) Did a smoke bomb go off in 8? There's no way it would have waffled over there from 9 -- either did, or didn't.

2) Did someone start shooting in 8?
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


It just said it was a smoke bomb that went off. It was a heavy set guy and the first video I saw of a witness report. He was there with his sister. Said he was in theater 8 and a pepper bomb went off. What I took from it was someone threw it in 8 not that it was waffling over from 9. But obviously I wasn't there. Wish I could find that clip I will keep looking.
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At 1:06 min the police cleary state "we need to clear the suspects car with the body in it". Who's body is this? Again does this explain the blood trail?
 Quoting: Jenn87


yo idiot, he says clear supsects car with the bomb unit! dumb ass stop spreading lies and fear!
Jenn87  (OP)

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At 1:06 min the police cleary state "we need to clear the suspects car with the body in it". Who's body is this? Again does this explain the blood trail?
 Quoting: Jenn87


yo idiot, he says clear supsects car with the bomb unit! dumb ass stop spreading lies and fear!
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Wow really did you not see on page 2 where I said sorry I was mistaken. It said bomb unit.
Get a life. This is for people trying to decipher what's going on you can keep the grade school insults to yourself and your family which you prob hurl them at on a daily basis. These are just opinions not facts
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To whoever posted that they got the audio using IE instead of Firefox, thank you. I was able to get it.
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why are they securing the mall exits tooo, i think i heard them say so he cant get out. since they brought k9 in the mall. why if they already had james they were at the mall. something is very fishy indeed.
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Everyone knows it was a police/masonic plot to help strip guns.
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Can someone make the recording into a GLP video?
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I wonder when James "sat down" behind his car. Where is he right now while they are describing him? His car was right behind the door right? Sounds like there are all kinds of cops back there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5100558


Exactly! How the fuck would this guy even be able to get anywhere near the back exit, let alone actually outside to his car?

All this on top of the fact there's the AR-15/flip-fops/riot shield/blood trail clearly leading into the theater... Doesn't make much sense, it's all fucked up.
 Quoting: Harmonix


You obviously did NOT listen to the audio. It's clear as day. You have to use headphones and listen to one side only to separate the dual audio tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17783854


"At 52:00 an officer says a construction worke sees a man leaving with a red backpack up Alameda. But then less than a minute later they report another witness says shooter is in black cammo with vest, gas mask, and multiple long guns.

A few minutes later around 55:10 they identify him as James Holmes, so they obviously physically have him at that point."

Yea so that would make it around 27 minutes from the time they got the report, to the time he was apparently apprehended.

So you people are saying that in 27 minutes the police failed to have any kind of hold on the back exit and allowed a guy who just shot 50+ people to walk out and get in his car? No officers/SWAT team/paramedics/firefighters seen him apparently galavanting around inside the theater and out the door?

I find this extremely hard to believe...
 Quoting: Harmonix


No, that is not what I am saying.

If you would listen to the recording, early on, maybe around the 30:00 mark the dispatcher says "employees say shooting still happening inside theater 9."

Then at some point shortly after that, you hear the first officers report on arriving at the back door entrance to the theater. THEY ASK FOR GAS MASKS AND REPORT GAS. So, apparently they have not yet entered. BUT - none of hem report any shots fired. So, obviously Holmes has already finished shooting and WALKED OUT BEFORE THEY GO IN.

There were reports that the cops mistakenly thought Holmes was a SWAT officer because of the way he was dressed, but they realized that SWAT couldn't have gotten there sooner than they did. SO, I would imagine it is TRUE that Holmes walked out and sat down. And at that point some cop probably walked up to him and said who the hell are you? or whatever - and realized he was the shooter.

The cops CLEARLY WARN EACH OTHER ON THE TAPE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE GUNS ON THE GROUND AND THE FLOOR OF THE THEATER!

So, apparently, Holmes stopped shooting for whatever reason (jammed gun, who knows?) and WENT OUTSIDE.

HE NEVER PUT UP A FIGHT AND HE DIDN'T BRANDISH A WEAPON AT THEM OR THEY WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY SHOT HIM.

It isn't complicated.
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I want to know WHO was in this theater that needed to be eliminated.
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Jessica... the previous attempt failed
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I will say that anyone listening to this audio who comes away saying the event is faked is a true fucking moran.

Holmes may have been an activated MK ULtra freak or some shit like that, but this event really happened - CLEARLY.
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No shit sherlock!
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Yeah, well I had to say that because of all the fucking retarded threads here suggesting it didn't happen or the witnesses are actors and calling the people "vicsims."

It's just ridiculous.
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Around the 30-31 min mark. a cop says he is taking someone to the hospital?
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Multiple cops say that at MULTIPLE points in the audio becuase they are WAITING for ambulances that AREN'T COMING - so they take the wounded to the hospital themselves!
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Most important part is at 50:00(listen from there)

they detail 2 suspects with backpacks that ran away

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Most important part is at 50:00(listen from there)

they detail 2 suspects with backpacks that ran away

North East towards Alemada
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I agree that two men on foot with backpacks leaving a movie theater at midnight is definitely curious. Apparently the construction workers and the police thought so, too.





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