Full uncensored Audio from APD and AFD. Clearly states second shooter! | |
MissLicious
User ID: 19459987 United Kingdom 07/24/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most important part is at 50:00(listen from there) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18422559 they detail 2 suspects with backpacks that ran away North East towards Alemada I agree that two men on foot with backpacks leaving a movie theater at midnight is definitely curious. Apparently the construction workers and the police thought so, too. This is what I found very strange and James Holmes had already been apprehended at this point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8243370 United States 07/24/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both the raw feed for Aurora Police and Aurora Fire Quoting: Jenn87 They clearly state witness are claiming a second SHOOTER! They give full description and give pursuit. Why was this covered up and dismissed? [link to www.qsl.net] approx 3 hours of audio, if you wear headphones the police and fire department are separated between left and right channels I've been listening for several minutes now, starting at 28:00 and there is NO MENTION of TWO shooters. The ONLY thing they say is "suspect in a gas mask..." and one time they say "possible shooter in blue & white plaid shirt.." Then one of the cops says "I'm getting conflicting reports of more than one shooter." ONE THING THAT YOU HEAR CLEARLY AND REPEATEDLY is that the cops have MULTIPLE BLEEDING VICTIMS (SPECIFICALLY THEY EVEN MENTION A CHILD) OUTSIDE THE BACK DOOR OF THEATER NINE. So that Thomas Brinkley asshole on Youtube needs to STFU with his stupid videos of someone "bleeding going INTO the theater." WHat bunch of horseshit. this. |
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MissLicious
User ID: 19459987 United Kingdom 07/24/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | - The first witness description broadcast, is that the shooter is "possibly wearing a white and plaid shirt". (Is this the second person, reported to have left the theatre to take a phone call?) I have listened to this part again: The officer clearly states the second shooter is possibly wearing a white & plaid shirt. The dispatcher then confirms the outstanding shooter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17252393 United States 07/24/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Police Chief states in the first press conference that: This event began at -- 0039. So 39 minutes after midnight the first calls came to 911. from their first call to his apprehension was about a min to a min & 1/2. (Later he says a min & 1/2 to 2 min..) goes on to say we often have off duty police officers working at that theater but they were not working that night.. We are not looking for any other suspects we are confident. That he acted alone. However we will do a thorough investigation to be absolutely sure that that is the case but at this time we -- confident that he acted alone. How can you be so sure so fast? |
Jenn87
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20470329 Panama 07/24/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most important part is at 50:00(listen from there) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18422559 they detail 2 suspects with backpacks that ran away North East towards Alemada I agree that two men on foot with backpacks leaving a movie theater at midnight is definitely curious. Apparently the construction workers and the police thought so, too. Who wears back packs to theaters after midnight? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20470329 Panama 07/24/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Police Chief states in the first press conference that: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17252393 This event began at -- 0039. So 39 minutes after midnight the first calls came to 911. from their first call to his apprehension was about a min to a min & 1/2. (Later he says a min & 1/2 to 2 min..) goes on to say we often have off duty police officers working at that theater but they were not working that night.. We are not looking for any other suspects we are confident. That he acted alone. However we will do a thorough investigation to be absolutely sure that that is the case but at this time we -- confident that he acted alone. How can you be so sure so fast? S C R I P T |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20470329 Panama 07/24/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Harmonix Exactly! How the fuck would this guy even be able to get anywhere near the back exit, let alone actually outside to his car? All this on top of the fact there's the AR-15/flip-fops/riot shield/blood trail clearly leading into the theater... Doesn't make much sense, it's all fucked up. You obviously did NOT listen to the audio. It's clear as day. You have to use headphones and listen to one side only to separate the dual audio tracks. "At 52:00 an officer says a construction worke sees a man leaving with a red backpack up Alameda. But then less than a minute later they report another witness says shooter is in black cammo with vest, gas mask, and multiple long guns. A few minutes later around 55:10 they identify him as James Holmes, so they obviously physically have him at that point." Yea so that would make it around 27 minutes from the time they got the report, to the time he was apparently apprehended. So you people are saying that in 27 minutes the police failed to have any kind of hold on the back exit and allowed a guy who just shot 50+ people to walk out and get in his car? No officers/SWAT team/paramedics/firefighters seen him apparently galavanting around inside the theater and out the door? I find this extremely hard to believe... No, that is not what I am saying. If you would listen to the recording, early on, maybe around the 30:00 mark the dispatcher says "employees say shooting still happening inside theater 9." Then at some point shortly after that, you hear the first officers report on arriving at the back door entrance to the theater. THEY ASK FOR GAS MASKS AND REPORT GAS. So, apparently they have not yet entered. BUT - none of hem report any shots fired. So, obviously Holmes has already finished shooting and WALKED OUT BEFORE THEY GO IN. There were reports that the cops mistakenly thought Holmes was a SWAT officer because of the way he was dressed, but they realized that SWAT couldn't have gotten there sooner than they did. SO, I would imagine it is TRUE that Holmes walked out and sat down. And at that point some cop probably walked up to him and said who the hell are you? or whatever - and realized he was the shooter. The cops CLEARLY WARN EACH OTHER ON THE TAPE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE GUNS ON THE GROUND AND THE FLOOR OF THE THEATER! So, apparently, Holmes stopped shooting for whatever reason (jammed gun, who knows?) and WENT OUTSIDE. HE NEVER PUT UP A FIGHT AND HE DIDN'T BRANDISH A WEAPON AT THEM OR THEY WOULD HAVE OBVIOUSLY SHOT HIM. It isn't complicated. The AR-15 was lying outside the back door, the glock on the the roof of the white car. What happened to the 100 round drum? The shot gun? Multiple AR-15's??? = Multiple shooters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20470329 Panama 07/24/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At 1:44, the police state there were TWO gunman. One seated in theater 8, and another that came through the back exit in theater 9. Then the policeman says: "This was a coordinated attack." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17582356 1:44:45 to be exact. Then the dispatcher says: "Possible second shooter still at large." Then she clearly says "keep the media away from them". Maybe, Handler in #8, shooter in #9, James (the patsy) sitting outside ready to be given the crazy juice so he starts acting like their prime suspect...handler and shooter either got away early or blended in with the crowd and went through processing all calm, cool, and collected and were let go after "debriefing". Holmes may never have even fired a shot, like Oswald. The 2 people with back packs running away are the shooters, Holmes the patsy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20451388 United States 07/24/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | listened to this whole thing, what about where the cop says his car is the 3rd to the right just outside the theatre? in the pics we are shown his car is in the 1st spot directly outside theatre. they suspect an explosive and wouldnt have moved the vehicle |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20451388 United States 07/24/2012 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 40:45 you hear a woman screaming and a cop talking over her saying "these are organs that are coming out" 41:20 same cop calls for medical saying he has a victim that is eviscerated what was the official list of weapons used by holmes as released by investigators? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20407126 Canada 07/24/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most important part is at 50:00(listen from there) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18422559 they detail 2 suspects with backpacks that ran away North East towards Alemada I agree that two men on foot with backpacks leaving a movie theater at midnight is definitely curious. Apparently the construction workers and the police thought so, too. Who wears back packs to theaters after midnight? It may have been theater employees running for their lives. Maybe they bring uniforms to work. |
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DMTHC
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14987606 United States 07/24/2012 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pic of the AR with the 30 round mag and no sling has me scratching my head. According to reports, and correct me if the story has changed, he first shot into the ceiling with the shotgun, moved to the AR til the 100 drum jammed on him, then used the Glock. If he used the Remington 870 first, which weighs about 8 lbs loaded, how did he carry the AR AND 100 ROUNDS of .223 without a sling? Up his ass? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17582356 United States 07/24/2012 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 40:45 you hear a woman screaming and a cop talking over her saying "these are organs that are coming out" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20451388 41:20 same cop calls for medical saying he has a victim that is eviscerated what was the official list of weapons used by holmes as released by investigators? *gulp* |
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User ID: 20314498 Canada 07/25/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pic of the AR with the 30 round mag and no sling has me scratching my head. According to reports, and correct me if the story has changed, he first shot into the ceiling with the shotgun, moved to the AR til the 100 drum jammed on him, then used the Glock. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14987606 If he used the Remington 870 first, which weighs about 8 lbs loaded, how did he carry the AR AND 100 ROUNDS of .223 without a sling? Up his ass? LMFAO! |
DMTHC
User ID: 20075425 Australia 07/25/2012 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes! He really wants to dispel the second shooter theory... ______ Also:| [link to www.ibtimes.com] Eighteenth Judicial District Attorney Carol Chambers told the Associated Press on Monday her office is considering pursuing the death penalty against Holmes. She said a decision will be made in consultation with victims' families. Police have told reporters that evidence uncovered in the days following the incident suggest "calculation and deliberation" in the massacre that rocked the nation. This was on a news report down here, sounded quite scary how it came out. Really pained holmes as a dark light needing to be extinguished... Last Edited by DMTHC on 07/25/2012 06:27 AM Let me let you in on a little secrete of mine, as far as god goes I don't believe in your kind- I think we all god just gotter look deeper inside, that's probably what your bible means by you seek and you find. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19559530 United States 07/25/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes! He really wants to dispel the second shooter theory... ______ Also:| [link to www.ibtimes.com] Eighteenth Judicial District Attorney Carol Chambers told the Associated Press on Monday her office is considering pursuing the death penalty against Holmes. She said a decision will be made in consultation with victims' families. Police have told reporters that evidence uncovered in the days following the incident suggest "calculation and deliberation" in the massacre that rocked the nation. This was on a news report down here, sounded quite scary how it came out. Really pained holmes as a dark light needing to be extinguished... This guy is so completely full of shit! TOTAL acting job...anyone who can't see that has gone FULL TARD. Immediately wants everyone to know there was only 1 shooter and he was positive about it. Totally scripted. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20434907 United States 07/25/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something like this could make sense.... TPTB dope up some outkast "weirdo" kid that stands out and that everyone already believes to be crazy. Have one or two or however many special operatives dress up the alleged shooter, with gas mask, and all the other stuff that is to be used as evidence against him. have someone else drive to the theater, drop off of alleged shooter, maybe escort him somehow near the room this takes place, while operative/trained killers tear gas the place and start shooting, then leave the place when all the commotion is happening. During all of this the alleged shooter may be somewhat coming out of doped up fog, but still all fucked up, and in a gas mask with a weapon, he hears to gun fire and commotion, and either thinks that he is in a video game, or maybe starts firing weapon out of fear. The police then arrest alleged shooter quickly, because he looks to be the most likely person responsible for this, he gets detained and another operative dopes him up really good again and continues to do so. The police, at least the majority of them have no idea of the sinister plot behind this, but some high ranking officers may have been complicit in all of this. Just brainstorming a bit. Sorry if this is incoherent, maybe some could clean up the hypothetical I just gave a bit and build on it, articulate better and re post wherever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20506556 United States 07/25/2012 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is both the raw feed for Aurora Police and Aurora Fire Quoting: Jenn87 They clearly state witness are claiming a second SHOOTER! They give full description and give pursuit. Why was this covered up and dismissed? [link to www.qsl.net] approx 3 hours of audio, if you wear headphones the police and fire department are separated between left and right channels FF to 1 hour 44 min 36 seconds. For specific intel regarding two shooters Police state keep media away, shooters are in theater 8 and 9 WOWVERY GOOD THANKS MR ZOMBIE |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20506556 United States 07/25/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something like this could make sense.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20434907 TPTB dope up some outkast "weirdo" kid that stands out and that everyone already believes to be crazy. Have one or two or however many special operatives dress up the alleged shooter, with gas mask, and all the other stuff that is to be used as evidence against him. have someone else drive to the theater, drop off of alleged shooter, maybe escort him somehow near the room this takes place, while operative/trained killers tear gas the place and start shooting, then leave the place when all the commotion is happening. During all of this the alleged shooter may be somewhat coming out of doped up fog, but still all fucked up, and in a gas mask with a weapon, he hears to gun fire and commotion, and either thinks that he is in a video game, or maybe starts firing weapon out of fear. The police then arrest alleged shooter quickly, because he looks to be the most likely person responsible for this, he gets detained and another operative dopes him up really good again and continues to do so. The police, at least the majority of them have no idea of the sinister plot behind this, but some high ranking officers may have been complicit in all of this. Just brainstorming a bit. Sorry if this is incoherent, maybe some could clean up the hypothetical I just gave a bit and build on it, articulate better and re post wherever. Yes that is how i thought they could have him just found outside dressed up you know i am sure because i watched it this naming him as the joker the first time it was said was by a talking head on fox news a black man he said u you know what- "i am going to name him the joker" then he went onto to say why- to do with the movie etc that was before any claim that the killer had called himself the joker. so that is fishy also. and i know its true its not specualtion its fact. |