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Here are some truths that I feel we need to address to move beyond this physical reality.

 
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Thanks for the "spark!"
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It's still dark and a little cold. You can hear thunder in the distance from an approaching storm. But you are given comfort knowing that a new day is approaching, because there are a few birds telling of the coming dawn. You are told, in the language of the birds, of an awakening in the world, that has not been seen for a very long time. Soon will come your daily call, a call to return to the fields for your toil, but you are beginning to sense a new hope. A hope foretold by the birds in the night of a magnificent sea change approaching. You can sense it now as you sit in the dark and listen. You feel it approaching. You have sensed lately that the guards in the fields are afraid. You can see unease in their eyes. They sense the change coming also. The whole world is now beginning to feel what the little birds told some of us long ago.

It is almost time to return to the fields, but there is a quiet sense of hope that our labor is almost over. The gates of the prison are about to fall away. Rejoice as we sit here in the dark and welcome the approaching storm. Do not be afraid. Because it will come to blow down the walls and we will be free again. Give thanks to the little birds as we sit in the dark in quiet surrender. Waiting alone for the dawn.

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Thanks for the "spark!"
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Thank you! It made my day that people found it worth reading.

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This is crazy, it is like I wrote this, not that I believe I am that intelligent.

The example that we are drops of water and GOD is the Ocean, I have made that exact comparison except I used Sea instead of Ocean.

Maybe we all are becoming more connected and are rising to a higher state of consciousness, or awareness.

Thanks OP...Great post
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This is crazy, it is like I wrote this, not that I believe I am that intelligent.

The example that we are drops of water and GOD is the Ocean, I have made that exact comparison except I used Sea instead of Ocean.

Maybe we all are becoming more connected and are rising to a higher state of consciousness, or awareness.

Thanks OP...Great post
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Please listen to me very carefully. These understandings have always been with us. We always knew these truths. We simply have been in a coma for a very long time. These truths have been known by "Wise Ones" for thousands of years, we are just now only beginning to be able to "see" them again! It is a time of remembrance. That is what we are about to experience. A true remembering.

That is why our understandings are so similar, because it is the truth! Great huh?

Peace

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- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want.
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Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.
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I truly hope we don't have to attain the spiritual enlightenment of Jesus, Buddha or Krishna in order to move on. I don't know how old my soul is, but in human yearly terms I'd probably guess it's mid to late 30ish. That means I'll surely have to come back to learn more.

I'm terrified of coming back to learn more. I could come back and be molested or raped as a child, too young and frail to defend myself. I could have a mother who punishes me by branding my arm with a hot iron. I could come back and live in a violent inner city or a war-torn country with nothing but starvation and desperation to look forward to every day. I could come back with a horrible birth defect. Moreover, many of us believe the future of mankind will be bleak and terrifying, so that whatever world we come back to will be a hell on Earth.

Is the truth as stark as I suggest, is rebirth truly a role of the dice? If so, I don't see how people aren't terrified of such a prospect.

And even if these scenarios don't come to pass, there are more subtle fears. For instance, I like who I am. I like the knowledge and wisdom I've accumulated. I don't want to have to come back and learn everything from scratch. Sure, in my next life I might be more "spiritually" wise, but do I really want to sit in classrooms again for 12 to 16 years? Do I really want to have to relearn how to read, write and do arithmetic? Do I really want to go through the pain and awkwardness of adolescence one more time? It just seems like moving backwards. I wish we could just go to the next plane, the next level, the next iteration without having to go through the monotony of life again.
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This is crazy, it is like I wrote this, not that I believe I am that intelligent.

The example that we are drops of water and GOD is the Ocean, I have made that exact comparison except I used Sea instead of Ocean.

Maybe we all are becoming more connected and are rising to a higher state of consciousness, or awareness.

Thanks OP...Great post
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Please listen to me very carefully. These understandings have always been with us. We always knew these truths. We simply have been in a coma for a very long time. These truths have been known by "Wise Ones" for thousands of years, we are just now only beginning to be able to "see" them again! It is a time of remembrance. That is what we are about to experience. A true remembering.

That is why our understandings are so similar, because it is the truth! Great huh?

Peace
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Yes, we have always been, and will always be.

Religion although very strong, may be fading...I believe that is a good thing as religion of any kind is not the truth.

Love and Gratitude
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I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

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- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.
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This is crazy, it is like I wrote this, not that I believe I am that intelligent.

The example that we are drops of water and GOD is the Ocean, I have made that exact comparison except I used Sea instead of Ocean.

Maybe we all are becoming more connected and are rising to a higher state of consciousness, or awareness.

Thanks OP...Great post
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Please listen to me very carefully. These understandings have always been with us. We always knew these truths. We simply have been in a coma for a very long time. These truths have been known by "Wise Ones" for thousands of years, we are just now only beginning to be able to "see" them again! It is a time of remembrance. That is what we are about to experience. A true remembering.

That is why our understandings are so similar, because it is the truth! Great huh?

Peace
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Honestly, the same feeling as Mark, its almost unbelievable that the exact same thoughts, the exact same ideas are formed together in all of us without having read them anywhere.

That is the essence of something being true.


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- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want.
 Quoting: 1123581321


Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.
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I truly hope we don't have to attain the spiritual enlightenment of Jesus, Buddha or Krishna in order to move on. I don't know how old my soul is, but in human yearly terms I'd probably guess it's mid to late 30ish. That means I'll surely have to come back to learn more.

I'm terrified of coming back to learn more. I could come back and be molested or raped as a child, too young and frail to defend myself. I could have a mother who punishes me by branding my arm with a hot iron. I could come back and live in a violent inner city or a war-torn country with nothing but starvation and desperation to look forward to every day. I could come back with a horrible birth defect. Moreover, many of us believe the future of mankind will be bleak and terrifying, so that whatever world we come back to will be a hell on Earth.

Is the truth as stark as I suggest, is rebirth truly a role of the dice? If so, I don't see how people aren't terrified of such a prospect.

And even if these scenarios don't come to pass, there are more subtle fears. For instance, I like who I am. I like the knowledge and wisdom I've accumulated. I don't want to have to come back and learn everything from scratch. Sure, in my next life I might be more "spiritually" wise, but do I really want to sit in classrooms again for 12 to 16 years? Do I really want to have to relearn how to read, write and do arithmetic? Do I really want to go through the pain and awkwardness of adolescence one more time? It just seems like moving backwards. I wish we could just go to the next plane, the next level, the next iteration without having to go through the monotony of life again.
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I will try to address each paragraph above in order if I can.

In this time of awakening, you will attain the spiritual enlightenment of this "Wise Ones"! Because it is time. You would not be identifying with this thread if you were not an old soul also.

Don't worry about what is to come. In a higher sense it has already been decided whether we will return and learn some more or return home. So, try to just relax and enjoy this amazing ride.

There are no rolls of the dice or coincidences in this world. Our lives have already been planned out before we came here in this incarnation. By who? Guess. By YOU! *smile* This is the way you planned this life because that is what you needed at this time. Cool huh?

Don't worry what will or won't come to pass. Just try and deal with your own internal issues. That is your concern now. Not the drama around you.

In conclusion, the best advice that I could give anyone is to not live in fear. Fear is our worst and most powerful adversary. Just try to follow life's flow and find love, peace and balance in your life.

Peace and love my friend.
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Yes, we have always been, and will always be.

Religion although very strong, may be fading...I believe that is a good thing as religion of any kind is not the truth.

Love and Gratitude
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You may find my other thread useful:

Thread: Simple straight forward question. Would a loving supreme being desire that you worship and pray to him/her?
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Beautifulhf
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Thank you Amy.
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Nice message OP....hf
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Honestly, the same feeling as Mark, its almost unbelievable that the exact same thoughts, the exact same ideas are formed together in all of us without having read them anywhere.

That is the essence of something being true.

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There are no coincidences in life. As you say, our ideas are so similar only because it is the truth that we have all known forever. We are just now remembering! I love it.

It is just like Snow White awakening from a long sleep. Telling us something there? *smile*
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Nice message OP....hf
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Truly my pleasure.
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What makes my heart sing is, that it seems like more and more people are waking up to their real self. It shows on posts like this one!

Peace & Lightrose
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Succinct and lovely, friend.

It is so exciting to see people "coming out" so boldly these days. May it continue. And grow.
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Man, you are so full of yourself and so full of crap.

You will "move beyond this physical reality" when you are dead.

And then you will find yourself before God Almighty.
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Succinct and lovely, friend.

It is so exciting to see people "coming out" so boldly these days. May it continue. And grow.
rose
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As I said earlier, it wasn't many years ago when these ideas were considered worth burning someone at the stake over. It is time to be brave and tell the truth.
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We each must find our own truth.
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You are so full of shit.

True is true and false is false.

Truth does not depend on your approval.


Itchy ears everywhere here.
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Man, you are so full of yourself and so full of crap.

You will "move beyond this physical reality" when you are dead.

And then you will find yourself before God Almighty.
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Not all will understand this message yet...
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Hopefully someday the Human species will rule the Planet with the force of LOVE and not by instilling Fear in everyone.
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We are truly infinite
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That's how far it took to get to absolute bullshit.

You are extremely limited and finite.

What is my name, Mr. Infinite?

You can't even answer THAT simple freaking finite question.

STOP JERKING YOURSELF AND OTHERS OFF. IT MATTERS
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Obviously, I am not a Christian, but Jesus said, "Those that have ears, let them hear."


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Obviously.

And you do not hear what he says at all.

You deny what he says.

You deny Him.

YOU ARE ANTICHRIST.

Can I be any clearer?
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Perhaps the "100th monkey" effect is kicking in, OP.
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I shout into the darkness and a few heed the call. That is as it has always been.
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What "call"?

What is your authority?

Whatever the hell YOU think??
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I shout into the darkness and a few heed the call. That is as it has always been.
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What "call"?

What is your authority?

Whatever the hell YOU think??
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ANSWER OP.
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Perhaps the "100th monkey" effect is kicking in, OP.
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Yes, we are nearing a major tipping point. I see it everywhere. Not the drama all over this site, but true understanding.

Peace
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thanks for the words of wisdom

things I needed to remember
right now.

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You are welcome. That is the only reason I created this thread.

Peace
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Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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With your "Peace," you deny the Prince Of.





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