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I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

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- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.

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Shameless bump so a few others can see my message.

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Last try...

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It's words from people like you that can heal...
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You are right on, OP. Unfortunately, most people will not be aware enough to realize what you are really saying. Some will, most won't. Good post, though.
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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Thank you. The difficulty is getting people to slow down the constant noise of their mind/ego to allow them to contemplate these ideas. We are controlled by being kept constantly distracted, confused and afraid. In this state, people cannot hear and understand this deeper and more loving message.

There has always been older souls speaking the truth, but the number able to hear and understand is so small.

Obviously, I am not a Christian, but Jesus said, "Those that have ears, let them hear."

I am only saying what thousands and thousands of old souls have been saying for a very long time.

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You are right on, OP. Unfortunately, most people will not be aware enough to realize what you are really saying. Some will, most won't. Good post, though.
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I understand that I am only speaking to a handful. But, that is ok. I shout into the darkness and a few heed the call. That is as it has always been.
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Outside of time, how can there be a concept of old and new?
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Outside of time, how can there be a concept of old and new?
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While we are experiencing life in this dense physical reality, time and space are real. But, also old and new are measures of the amount of experiences we have had during our many incarnations.

The number of experiences we have in our many lives are our teachers. The good experiences show us that we are on the true path and the bad experiences, through suffering, guide us back to the true path when we become lost. Both good and bad experiences are useful and necessary.

The more we learn, hopefully the more wise we become.

I hope that helped.
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Thanks for the bump. I just want to expose people to these deeper understandings of our reality. I don't want to tell anyone what to believe. The choice what to believe is there's alone.
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thanks for the words of wisdom

things I needed to remember
right now.

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thanks for the words of wisdom

things I needed to remember
right now.

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You are welcome. That is the only reason I created this thread.

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Hello Fib. A big bumpity bump from me, 5 stars, a green thumb and I will be back later to add to this very important thread of good intention.

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Hello Fib. A big bumpity bump from me, 5 stars, a green thumb and I will be back later to add to this very important thread of good intention.

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Thank you my friend. Please do! As I mentioned in the original post, this list is not all inclusive. This thread is to give people a "nudge" of remembrance.

Nice to see you again.

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- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

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you call this a fact? I think it's a fact that our lives are finite, beginning at conception and ending at brain death.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

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I would contend that we in fact, ARE our frail physical bodies. You are the one making a positive claim of existence, which means that the burden of proof lies on you. Can you prove that we are anything more than physical? No? Then maybe you are just fantasizing.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

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More nonsense. So you believe that once we figure out that we are powerful and spiritual beings we will escape physical reality right? Who told you this? Where does this idea come from? Do you have any proof whatsoever?

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

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If we must learn these so called "facts" on our own, why do you bother posting this nonsense? Aren't you claiming the title of teacher now? Why should I bother listening to you? (I shouldn't)


That's enough for now. I'm getting sick and tired of these bullshit new age posts of utter nonsense. I bet it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to think that you have some kind of superior knowledge about human beings to the rest of us. You really don't. You are delusional.
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The difficulty is getting people to slow down the constant noise of their mind/ego to allow them to contemplate these ideas.
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That's probably one of the reasons I love GLP.
No other website (that I've found) actually nurtures that ability like this one does.

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- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

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you call this a fact? I think it's a fact that our lives are finite, beginning at conception and ending at brain death.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

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I would contend that we in fact, ARE our frail physical bodies. You are the one making a positive claim of existence, which means that the burden of proof lies on you. Can you prove that we are anything more than physical? No? Then maybe you are just fantasizing.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

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More nonsense. So you believe that once we figure out that we are powerful and spiritual beings we will escape physical reality right? Who told you this? Where does this idea come from? Do you have any proof whatsoever?

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

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If we must learn these so called "facts" on our own, why do you bother posting this nonsense? Aren't you claiming the title of teacher now? Why should I bother listening to you? (I shouldn't)


That's enough for now. I'm getting sick and tired of these bullshit new age posts of utter nonsense. I bet it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to think that you have some kind of superior knowledge about human beings to the rest of us. You really don't. You are delusional.
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To be honest, I expected posts like this sooner. As I said in the original post, I don't expect anyone to agree with these ideas. Also, I never used the word, "facts" to describe these views. If it rings true for you, then pursue these ideas further, BUT if these ideas seem like utter bullshit, then walk away. Why does my presenting these ideas cause you anger? I never would ask you to believe what I have said here.

Yes, for many these concepts seem insane. For others this is truth. Only you can decide which is right. We each must follow our own heart. You choose.

Ironically, showing anger and ridiculing others doesn't harm me spiritually, it only harms you! Some day you will see that.

Peace

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So you believe that once we figure out that we are powerful and spiritual beings we will escape physical reality right? Who told you this? Where does this idea come from? Do you have any proof whatsoever?

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I will try and answer this question though.

Yes, I do believe that the path of our ascension from this dense physical reality is accomplished through knowledge, balance and love.

What I have said here is not new. These understandings have been with us since the beginning of our existence here. Wise Ones have been telling us these truths for thousands of years. Many of us just refuse to listen.

The only proof we will ever find concerning these spiritual concepts is to try and find some quiet time, stop the mind/ego's constant distractions and listen to what your heart tells you concerning these spiritual ideas. There will never be any proofs for you about these kinds of ideas.

I hope that answered your question.

Peace
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Wow brother that was beautiful
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Wow brother that was beautiful
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Thank you for your kindness.

These ideas that I have expressed will resonate with those that are ready. For others it will seem like crazy talk. The first step in finding your true path is to understand that each of us is at a unique point in their journey through this labyrinth we call life. Your path is not my path. In the end, we have to walk this journey alone.

Again, thank you.

Peace
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“The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear
what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment
you reject all help are you freed.”

-- Buddha
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I thought that I would shamelessly bump this older thread one more time for any that may find it of some use. Just my views.

Decide whatever you like.

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Thank you. I am happy that there are some out there that find these ideas worth considering. The world truly is slowly awakening. It wasn't very long ago that someone would be burned at the stake for saying or writing these things.

Thank you again.
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This was posted a while back, it's in 6 parts, lasts about an hour and encompasses all the OP says and more. You will not regret watching it.


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This was posted a while back, it's in 6 parts, lasts about an hour and encompasses all the OP says and more. You will not regret watching it.



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I don't have earplugs right now, but I will listen to this later. Thanks for the post. Many are beginning to remember...
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Let me add again that this list of truths is not all inclusive. I only put these out to give people a nudge to help them in their search for the true path.

If you find these ideas crazy, that is completely ok. Just think about them though.

Peace
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“The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear
what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment
you reject all help are you freed.”

-- Buddha
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Thank you!red_heart
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5 stars and much love to you...I hope our spirits connect one day <3





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