Here are some truths that I feel we need to address to move beyond this physical reality.

Translation: My arguments can't stand on their own so I have to assert a special status either for myself or for you that prohibits you from seeing the correctness of my arguments and prohibits me from expressing it. Nevertheless, we're supposed to reject the more obvious conclusion that you are simply mistaken; or have yet to express your thoughts in a coherent way.

I have traveled many miles with you. I will add that if there ever was a time it is right now! The vibration of our planet is becoming higher every day. Many don't notice, many do.. it has set off a tidal-wave of discontent. Be it known that the Dark Forces are here now and tripping you up at every corner. Even those that are on the path are finding it difficult to balance every day the inner most important concept. That we are energy. We are three points the power of three..body mind and spirit.. are capable of the will and intent that it will take to overcome the sheer force of those that do not understand NOR will they ever.
Look around you right now.. do you know your place well enough to close your eyes and navigate home? Or with the chaos of world breakdown where your safe place is? You must know these things. But it will take as stated a CONNECTION to the DIVINE in order to follow those directions and stay safe. Please everyone read these words again as it is the best take on what is that I have read yet. Lose emotion, is does not serve. Become pure, seek only that which resonates as just and right. Seek meditation rest and silence, only then will you connect. It was said in the Bible as above so below. It was said by Buddha know yourself. It is said by the Shaolin.. to Know, to Do, to Dare.. to be Silent.


Absolutely this is happening. And time seems to be speeding up as well. However, I must point out that some people FEEL the connection to the divine intimately and pert near at all times. This connection can be found in mediation, and sometimes in extreme personal circumstance. The connection strengthens with the realization of the connection. I do not need to meditate to find it because it is always with me, either in my mind, the feeling in my heart, or in my body. So it is with some.

"It is appointed once for man to live and die, then judgment."


Truth.

Your desire to be happy is understandable. It's human. All I'm saying is I can't respond with happiness towards a universe that by the way it works is inherently cruel to living beings.

Honestly, I can completely understand your point of view. My heart tells me though for me to deal with a world of cruelty, hate and suffering with more hate, anger and suffering is the wrong path for me. I see my way to turn inward and to not let such terrible things affect me.

Before you post back telling me how naive that appears, I see it as just the opposite. I see it as the only way to peace. That approach will feel very wrong to many, but I have to follow my own path, alone. That is what I have been saying all along.

My path is not anyone else's path. For me the path is love, peace and balance no matter what the world is like around me.

That all I can say and I doubt you will under it, but that is my path.

Peace

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Good luck & peace.

Thank you and peace to you my brother.

Sounds like you found yourself an easy path.

You think? Harder than being angry and hating others...

Try it.

So how hard is it?

Saw what happened to Jesus, Gandhi and many, many others? No, I am not even close to these "Wise Ones", but the path is the same.

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So you're a leader? Plenty of people embody and probably even share with others a more moral vision of the world than either of those men, and do so without needing to command others or claim authority over them. Can you say the same?

All of this "my path" and "you can't possibly understand" stuff sounds a lot like veiled ignorance and not so veiled hubris.

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" Genesis 3:4
(then he kept on saying it, over and over)

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34

"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" Luke 12:51

"There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked." Isaiah 57:21

"The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace." Isaiah 59:8

"Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" Amos 3:3

"Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils." 1 Corinthians 10:21


"Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?" Job 10:9

"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." Job 14:12

"When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:" Psalm 92:7

"His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Psalm 146:4

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7


"Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto." Isaiah 44:15

"They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: they fall down, yea, they worship." Isaiah 46:6

"Are there any among the vanities of the Gentiles that can cause rain? or can the heavens give showers? art not thou he, O LORD our God? therefore we will wait upon thee: for thou hast made all these things." Jeremiah 14:22

"Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it." Habakkuk 2:19

"And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word." 1 Kings 18:21


{The Second Holy Commandment of God}


Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Most men compromise in their minds the nature of God
Turning God into what-ever they like or are content with...

Some say That God who made them and all things
actually Is just in flowers or in the collective of everyone on earth.......

"But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand." Isaiah 64:8

"Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?" Isaiah 29:16

"Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" Isaiah 44:24

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." John 17:17

Wonderful thread...if I still had a facebook this would be posted....

I think I'll fwd it it to my bf, a vicarious gulper indeed :)

Absolutely this is happening. And time seems to be speeding up as well. However, I must point out that some people FEEL the connection to the divine intimately and pert near at all times. This connection can be found in mediation, and sometimes in extreme personal circumstance. The connection strengthens with the realization of the connection. I do not need to meditate to find it because it is always with me, either in my mind, the feeling in my heart, or in my body. So it is with some.

Quite nice! And I show the comment most concise and simple to be what I too find the most important. Once you can do this, well.. you won't miss the moment, that will define and determine your future. We all are tested throughout our lives.. I have many times.. and in hind sight can say they were difficult but gave me insight that I could have never received any other way! As we get older this will be easier to understand..what I am amazed at is the young that know it all now.. RIGHT FROM THE START. They will come up to me like a child (2-5 yrs. old) in public and stare like they know you..I had one say "did you know we are related?" Try to relate and confirm by noting their strong points. And know you have an ally.. for life. We are all related..out of the mouth of babes.

Are ye prepared, and understand what you're doing?
Better get ye a rag, on the off chance they wake you...

Surprise, you're a brand new Muslim!

Of course it is ego masturbation.

When things like this happen to me I stop and take one second to acknowledge what just happend. Usually with a nod, smile or a quiet "thank you" (or maybe all three!)
It seems the more we pay attention, the more we will see.
I appreciate your words, and they did resonate with me!
Peace to you!!

Thanks for the post Op,
I respect your view points.

However i do have doubts and questions...

Why should we keep insisting it's a good idea to suffer, to make war, kill, r@pe either doing it or being a victim i se no point in this. why would a infinite being chose to experience loss of identity (amnesia) of who you truly are...)

Your view points does not give us an answer of who those inter dimensional beings or et's conducting abductions are. It does not answer why a innocent child has to suffer greatly in sacrifice or malicious intent of wicked people/beings.
It does not answer the role of these "higher selves" of those wicked et's,.. Does their higher selves commands them to do evil deeds? Why do they have egos, why are they free to travel the dimensions/universe while we are stuck on this planet?

It does not answer why "history repeats it self" did we truly learned a lesson? Look at our his-story riddled with wars, ethnic cleansing, hunger, greed, mind control.

It does not answer of why we need to suffer time and time again how many times should we experience pain until we get it? Ah yes amnesia before we incarnate...if this is a school then we should remember our lessons.

It does not answer the reason of non intervention as many of these supposed higher beings have claimed and yet they contact their "chosen ones", "special ones" aka channellers/contactees to feed us the same flaws ie: you are here to learn we will guide you and spread our message to the world now may i ask you where is their precious non-intervention now? Why don't they send us real compassion and love by sending us a real cure for cancer or any other deadly disease....? They won't because they need us for our energy they are the vampires...

According to researchers like Michael Newton and his book journey of souls we are being herded like catle after we die we need yet again learn lessons in astral schools (brainwash camps) and keep insisting its a good idea to reincarnate with amnesia and completely ignore this world is governed by heavy mind control (tv, movies, music etc,) inter dimensional influence from et's or archons. The younger the soul the more rebellious it is because it knows something is very wrong. The "old" souls are those who are heavily mind mind controlled throughout many many incarnations raging from thousands to millions of years...
And being over watched by "elders" "masters" and "judged" by them if you are a brave slave. Keep insisting we need to learn again and again....and convince you everything is your fault...but keep ignoring the: TPTB, chemtrails, abductions, war, mind control religion comes to mind...

Ask this zebra if it choose this experience....?



Why is it that this world is based upon predators and prey?
Would a loving god/source think "hey this is cool il make a place full of suffering for the sake of learning" You see you left out the animals are they not sentient beings to? Who feel immense pains? I know they are carrying their "programming" aka instinct but why...

No i believe its NOT about learning dogmatic lessons that keeps us away of who we are and where we came from.
Its not logical going from infinite aware being to a form of zombie to yet again achieve that state of infinite being it doesn't make absolutley no sense...

BUT

It is experiencing the infinite creation to experience new ideas new planets new emotions new friends new dimensions to let free your CREATIVITY and to experience creativity from others and guess what if its truly infinite this means no end to new experiences...this is what it means to live to feel the love to see your fellow souls as brothers and sisters and yet maintain your unique personality and individuality unlike what the et's and inter dimensional beings try to convince us their hive minded dogmas "we are one" aka borg agenda. The dark will not come in the name of hate it will come in the name of love. Hence there are 2 kinds of "oneness" campaigns one is from the external beings acting like good cop, while the seconds is realising from within we all came from the same source and yet retain your uniqeness.

How did we come to this mess how many times should god/source since we all are connected like the ocean metaphor you shared with us experience death, r@pes, lies suffering until it freekin realise "ok i get it now"

I'm sorry to me your viewpoints are flawed just my opinion.
I wish you true freedom true love as do i wish it for all souls who wish it.

We come to grow. In spirit we do not experience time and time is a necessry component of growth. Without time there is no growth so we enter into time to experience growth.

Thank you OP. Your speaking the truth. I recommend everyone to read the vision of hermes, in sacrettexts.

There is only one,---Christ.
And even for him, as he ha stated, it was difficult to reach his Father from here.

Op is wrong.

Plainly we're not on your path and neither are you on ours. With respect, why troll this thread? Happy Good Friday, bro.

ad hominem!

what Fries-day, french fries day? or what.

...how many of them have you counted so far?

a you a worm from the pussy of the 'Queen of Heaven'?

I would like to end this thread with one last post. First, thank you all that contributed by posting with respect. I enjoyed all your views and comments. To those that decided that anger, ugliness and cruelty are the way to communicate. I feel sorry for you. I hope you find what you are looking for.

These concepts are not complicated. A child can easily grasp these basic truths. The difficulty is putting them into practice in our lives. Many people talk about the truths, but few live them. They think they do, but really the ego is still in control.

I am a simple, old man. I don't have a teacher, I'm not part of any elite group and I don't have any special abilities. I don't have the ability to channel other beings, to remote view or to leave my body at will. I am not wealthy, physically powerful or from an elite bloodline. I am not a threat to anyone. However, I have been very blessed to have remembered how powerful my true spiritual consciousness really is and to begin to understand my true reality. I have learned to take in information from everywhere I can find it. No source is out of bounds or taboo. I believe that as long as I take the knowledge received and then listen to my heart and stay strong, nothing I am told, read or see can harm me. I then keep any "diamonds" that ring true in my heart and I then discard the rest.

Our reality, both physical and etheric, is changing very quickly. All the centers of power, both good and evil, are being restructured. Because of this, many advanced beings are now jostling for power behind the scenes. New alliances are being formed and old ones are collapsing. Supposed advanced beings are now coming out of the shadows suggesting new crusades. All esoteric knowledge is now being opened for all to see. Nothing is being held back. It is an amazing time and a wonderful time to be alive. The new game certainly isn't boring.

During these amazing times, my heart tells me to go and quietly stand on a nearby hill, be very quiet, listen and watch. Then decide who our real heroes in this new spiritual power struggle are. There are many chameleons presenting themselves right now. The labyrinth is more complex than ever.

So, what are we to do? All I know to do is to remain centered, listen to your heart and not be afraid. My heart tells me that everything I need to know is within me. I don't feel I need a master, guru or a leader. I don't believe we should give our power away to anyone! When we are searching for truth, we need to go inward and not to any other being for our truth. We are much more powerful than we realize. However, don't misunderstand me, we should have these discussions. I value everyone's comments here very much. It is truly a breath of fresh air after so much secrecy. We should then discern what is truth for each of us and discard the rest. We don't need a leader, we are each the strongest-of-the-strong. Just remember who you really are and lead yourself down your own true path. We are the only ones that know what is right for each of us...

Go in peace and remember who you are.

Fibonacci

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Also, if you found this thread useful, would you please give it a bump. Not for me and my ego, but for some that may find this message helpful, but only read GLP occasionally.



I really have shared all I can for now. I hope some find it helpful.

Love to all here.

Fibonacci

I really agree with you that with Love, but mostly with Supreme Justice of Christ, which is like a living tree, that as all life, uses the power of this natural sequence, all the wickedness will be eliminated thought the destruction of the wicked ones in the heavenly and earthly realms.

Thanks to you for your thread.

Very well put. I first experienced the truth of your words when I was 4 years old. It lasted just a few seconds then I fell back asleep. But I remembered. It took 30 years and strong drugs to experience it again. My life was a dream and I became lucid within it. I'm back to dreaming again, but someday...