Here are some truths that I feel we need to address to move beyond this physical reality.

I am absolutely sure I did NOT volunteer for this shitty experience called life.

Stop spreading your personal belief system as the absolute truth.

I am absolutely sure I did NOT volunteer for this shitty experience called life.

Yet another thread for a Gathering Of Kindred Spirits.
The momentum is picking up.

I thought that I would write down some key ideas that I believe we must come to grips with before we can begin to become the advanced beings we really already are. These ideas may seem simple at first, but they are much more complex and difficult than most of us realize. There are other concepts that I have not included or addressed here. My only purpose in posting this bullet list is to get people to begin to think about these ideas and to pursue them by listening to their heart.

You may find these concepts to be complete BS! That is completely OK. I don't expect anyone to take what I say as truth. We each must find our own truth. All I would say is to begin to question these ideas and see if they ring true in your heart. If they don't, just move on. We are all on our own unique journey.

Go in peace,
Fibonacci

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- Our soul/inner spiritual consciousness was never born and will never die. We are truly infinite and powerful spiritual beings.

- We are not this frail, finite, physical body. We are very advanced spiritual beings that come to this dense physical reality to learn from it. We volunteered to come experience this dense, restricting and difficult reality. Only the strongest of the strong volunteered for this amazing challenge.

- We will continue to live many, many incarnations here until we begin to understand what truly powerful spiritual beings we really are and begin to understand that it is within our power to leave whenever we want. Many people consider us to be slaves in this reality. Yes, we are! BUT, once we begin to remember who we really are, we can't be held here any longer. We are really more powerful than most of us can imagine.

- Until we understand that we must walk through this world alone, we will never become the advanced beings we really are. Each of us have a unique path to follow through this world. Your path is not my path. Until we stop depending on a teacher, guru, master, preacher or partner to show us the way, we will never be free. This is a solitary journey and so we must walk our path alone.

- Our earthly family is not our real family. Our earthly family are usually just beings that came together for this incarnation to learn from each other. Our family here are not people we can depend on any more than any other people in the world. In truth, all living beings are our brothers and sisters, not just the ones we consider our immediate family.

- Our mind/ego is not who we really are. When we listen to our mind/ego to guide us instead of our heart, we will forever be led astray. It is only once we learn to quiet our mind/ego and to listen to the subtle messages from our heart that we will begin to follow our true path.

- Fear is our worst and toughest adversary. If we understand that we are really infinite beings, we will begin to understand that we really have nothing to fear in this world. Fear distracts us from our true path and keeps us lost and confused. Usually our greatest fears are issues that we need to address the most. Our fears are teaching us a lesson to learn from. As crazy as it may seem, embrace your fears and deal with them with courage and love in your heart.

- There are some beings that have not been incarnating here on Earth for very long and are really quite immature souls. However, there are some beings that have been incarnating here on Earth for a very long time. These are known to us as old souls. The young immature souls are like young children, at times doing bad things, throwing temper tantrums and hurting others. One spiritual being is not better or higher than any other, we are just each at a different point in our journey. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna were old souls and there have been many others that we are not even aware of. They have always been around to guide us. Evil people are just immature souls and are learning from every mistake they make.

- What is God? Imagine every living creature in this universe as a drop of water and God as the ocean. Therefore, with this view you can see that we are each a PART of God. We are all therefore truly brothers and sisters. We are not lower level children to be controlled and guided by God. We are all really a unique, piece or fractal of God! Therefore we are all sons/daughters of God.

Why is your truth more right than mine? I have said many, many times throughout this thread that I don't expect anyone to believe anything I said. These are my views. What is wrong with that?

But of course!!!

See, I am glad that you posted this. Sometimes I forget that we all don't know this stuff. And of course there is no proof......but the truth that one feels in their heart when they read this (or not!) .


re: the Earthly family- actually the members of a family may be souls that have a particular connection that have agreed to help each other down through the years and incarnations, sometimes once, sometimes many times.

Peace out.

Why is your truth more right than mine? I have said many, many times throughout this thread that I don't expect anyone to believe anything I said. These are my views. What is wrong with that?

The biggest question of all is, what was the creator ?

Was it one single being....

i cherish this frail finite physical body.
i love this experience, this moment, this chance to
relish paradise goarden, to know the joy of all
simple pleasures.

i remember being a massless particle.
don't romanticize it, it isn't what you
make it out to be.

Stop conflating having a right to say something with being right, or immune from critique. You've made factual claims. Understanding that others won't be persuaded by them does not make them more right. I might suggest to you that it actually makes them less likely to be right...

Well, you are a piece, a fractal of that being. Look within your heart and you will find the answer. That was not a "mind chess" type answer. I meant exactly that.

Peace

You found better words for expressing what annoyed me about OPs original post than I did myself. Thank you.

Care to enlighten us? What was it?

Thank you, Fibonacci! I hope you like stars, green karma and having unknown others adding you to their buddy list.

There have been moments in this life time that I wondered if anyone shared these beliefs, and other times that I assumed everyone had the capability of understanding this material in their current lifetime. I've felt like I should help others wake to this, but as you know, it is the journey that allows one to arrive at such conclusions. It is so beautiful to find others who share this perspective.

Thank you, everyone else who has posted here in this thread. If Fibonacci's truths resonate with yours, I know that you know that you are universally loved, and that you are capable of sending that love out to others too, so thank you for being you.

For those that cannot relate at this point, it's ok, we have all been there and we know how important it is for each of us to have our own experience and you are part of us as much as we are a part of you. There is no judgement, only understanding.

light and love to all

I am absolutely sure I did NOT volunteer for this shitty experience called life.

Stop spreading your personal belief system as the absolute truth.

A happy spirit was having fun in heaven when a group of other spirits came up to him. He recognised some of the spirits as ones he had been with as friends long before in several lives on earth and he greeted each of them by name. He vaguely remembered some of them had been pranksters and jokers, but that was over now that all were in heaven and happy.

The happy spirit said "well, what can I do for you lovely folks" and the group answered "it's time for you to consider continuing your journey on earth." The happy spirit gasped and reared back in horror, for he never intended to go back to that place. Not ever! He was QUITE content floating happily in the ethers.

His old friends in the group saw the consternation and horror on their former friends face , and began whispering to him..."remember the smell of green grass freshly cut? And the feel of the cool spring morning? Therustling of autumn leaves against an achingly blue sky? Do you remember how good it felt to run? To hold you firstborn in your arms? to laugh and love and feel the blood pulsing in your veins? "

And the happy spirit began to remember the wonderful sights, smells and experiences of the Earthly existence, and lost in reverie, he inadvertently said "it WAS kind of nice there....."

then

BAM!!!!!!!! He found himself coming down a long dark canal and taking his first breath. He raised his little fist and feebly waved it ceiling-ward in gesture that meant "I'll get you guys for this!!" And before forgetfulness overtook him, he dimly heard laughter wisping by on the air.

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I just want to fly... ^_^

This physical reality is so heavy.
I can't wait to strip it off and be free!

But, while I'm here, I'm gonna try to love, accept, and not judge... and have fun and learn stuff, lol.

You're right, it's very lonely and isolating at times. But, I treasure each moment, and am so thankful for it all. :)

Thankful for GLP, and the awesome people on here who help spread the positivity.

Much love to you, OP, I really relate to what you wrote.
Thanks for sharing your views...
even if some aren't able to see from your perspective.

I will take that story as a cruel joke, because I hope no one really feels that way...

Ah well, thanks for the reply. Best to you OP!!!!!

I will try and answer this question though.

Yes, I do believe that the path of our ascension from this dense physical reality is accomplished through knowledge, balance and love.

What I have said here is not new. These understandings have been with us since the beginning of our existence here. Wise Ones have been telling us these truths for thousands of years. Many of us just refuse to listen.

The only proof we will ever find concerning these spiritual concepts is to try and find some quiet time, stop the mind/ego's constant distractions and listen to what your heart tells you concerning these spiritual ideas. There will never be any proofs for you about these kinds of ideas.

I hope that answered your question.

Peace

I understand people not resonating with these views and believing that these ideas are just bullshit. But, I never get used to the anger and the ugliness. When I see it I understand that their way is not my way. If their way was the true path, they would be happy and not so angry...

I have traveled many miles with you. I will add that if there ever was a time it is right now! The vibration of our planet is becoming higher every day. Many don't notice, many do.. it has set off a tidal-wave of discontent. Be it known that the Dark Forces are here now and tripping you up at every corner. Even those that are on the path are finding it difficult to balance every day the inner most important concept. That we are energy. We are three points the power of three..body mind and spirit.. are capable of the will and intent that it will take to overcome the sheer force of those that do not understand NOR will they ever.
Look around you right now.. do you know your place well enough to close your eyes and navigate home? Or with the chaos of world breakdown where your safe place is? You must know these things. But it will take as stated a CONNECTION to the DIVINE in order to follow those directions and stay safe. Please everyone read these words again as it is the best take on what is that I have read yet. Lose emotion, is does not serve. Become pure, seek only that which resonates as just and right. Seek meditation rest and silence, only then will you connect. It was said in the Bible as above so below. It was said by Buddha know yourself. It is said by the Shaolin.. to Know, to Do, to Dare.. to be Silent.

So in other words you say "I'm right (because I'm on the true path) and you're wrong (because you're not)." Thank you for making that clear.

If the universe were the creation of a sadistic creator (which I think it is), the correct and sane response of a being having to inhabit this universe would be to be not happy and be angry, correct? So how can you say my path is not a sane response regarding the circumstances I perceive to be at work in this universe?