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Here's your King James 1611 Bible and your "jesus"

 
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people drive out spirits in the name of mary


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people drive out spirits with all kinds of names....
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The letter J did not exist until after 1500.

So when fundamentalist christians claim and shout "in the name of Jesus", they are actually shouting the spelling the wrong name.
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Php 2:9 Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 that at the Name of Yahuwshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue should confess that Yahuwshua Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father.




Only one name people
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


The bible quote you posted has been changed by somebody. Here is what it says in the KJV.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Philippians 2:9)

You can check what the Greek says here. that they wrote it in says here:

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Paul and Timotheus wrote that letter in Greek. Why would they write Jesus's name in Greek if everybody is supposed to use a Hebrew name?

You say it is vital that everybody uses that Hebrew name you posted above. Where does the bible say that people must use a Hebrew name for Jesus? Do any of the standard versions of the bible use a Hebrew name for Jesus?
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most of them disreguard paul. which is weird, peter sent paul to teach the gentiles

this is why you stay out of the church and anyone related to the church system.

colossians 2:8-23
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.
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Just one? Dang, I found two.

[link to chrles.multiply.com]

Hebrews 4:9-10 contains two instances of Theos.
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ok op so you're saying all the Christians throughout the millennia who didn't pronounce the Savior's Name just the way you say they should were worshipping the wrong god? Zeus?

and you and the handful of people around the world today who ascribe to this odd sacred name teaching are the only ones correct??

and you can't see why orthodox Christianity as a whole might view your small sect as a cult???

the Bible says mark those who cause divisions in the Body and avoid them.

even if you somehow got the pronunciation just right you are avoiding 1 Corinthians 13 = love and forgetting that knowledge puffs up, but love edifies ;-)

when we are compelled to correct we are to do so with gentleness. perhaps I read you wrong but your approach seems a bit heavy handed ;-)

kindness and gentleness are fruits of the Spirit -- along with

love joy and peace

rb
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the sacred name cult is minuscule thank God but overrepresented on glp

the Bible ALWAYS has the answer to false teaching

in Acts the disciples spoke in diverse tongues on Pentecost -- people from all different countries heard the great things of God IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE

Paul said later he'd rather speak a few words in a known tongue than 1000 in an unknown tongue

so there ya go op.

you know what it's fine to call Jesus whatever name we're comfortable with ;-) as long as you're talking about our Creator come to earth to redeem us -- the guy who died on the cross to take away our sins, and rose from the grave to give us the free gift of eternal life when we beloved in Him ;-)

it's not ok to stir up strife and dissension in the Body of Christ with vain disputes and false accusations such as this sacred name stuff

perhaps offer suggestions in sincere gentleness and humility would be a better tack. and definitely not to think more highly of ourselves than we ought. we all fall short op

we are righteous only in Him washed clean by His Blood :-) not in doing everything just exactly right -- or claiming to

love peace and joy

rb
 Quoting: rb 1361372


i love you rb!

i was so afraid i was gonna haft to but a hebrew/english dictionary for Jesus!

i mean, im confusing enough as it is and i was afraid the only other choice was to get a sketch pad.

thank you for reminding me Jesus is the Son of God and has the knowledge to know what i need before i need it, as well as judge my heart!

i have always hated this stuff as it scatters the flock more than it brings them together. the sheep feel inferrior and drop like flies from the faith cause they give up hope. i know i nearly did once or twice.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



Just one? Dang, I found two.

[link to chrles.multiply.com]

Hebrews 4:9-10 contains two instances of Theos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361353


Here is another one. In that manuscript, they use abbreviations for Jesus, Christ, God, etc. For example, they write in Greek something like this:

Jesus -> Iu
Christ -> Xu
God -> Thu or Ths
Lord -> Ku

[link to chrles.multiply.com]

In Romans 1:7 it has "Ku Iu Xu", which means Lord Jesus Christ.
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Remember, a name is a Mark of Authority. And what you follow. Show me what you do, and I'll tell you your gods.

Does your feast look like the Creators feasts give FOREVER in Lev 23??

Or do the look like greek holidays to commemorate ishtar, nimrod and tamous?

Does your walk look like the Messiah's walk? Who knew no sin (sin = breaking the Creator's Law 1 John 3:4)

Or does your walk get rid of the Creators Laws and create new ones to follow based on what is "right" in your own eyes to feel Spiritual?

Do you follow the Sabbath (7th day rest to be close to the Creator) and keep it Holy (First thing the creator called Holy was time... HIS time)

Or do you follow the Catholic MARK of authority over the scriptures SUNday???


Show me what Laws you follow, and I will tell you your god's or Elohim.
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christians...
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Remember, a name is a Mark of Authority. And what you follow. Show me what you do, and I'll tell you your gods.

Does your feast look like the Creators feasts give FOREVER in Lev 23??

Or do the look like greek holidays to commemorate ishtar, nimrod and tamous?

Does your walk look like the Messiah's walk? Who knew no sin (sin = breaking the Creator's Law 1 John 3:4)

Or does your walk get rid of the Creators Laws and create new ones to follow based on what is "right" in your own eyes to feel Spiritual?

Do you follow the Sabbath (7th day rest to be close to the Creator) and keep it Holy (First thing the creator called Holy was time... HIS time)

Or do you follow the Catholic MARK of authority over the scriptures SUNday???


Show me what Laws you follow, and I will tell you your god's or Elohim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


ok ill play this game, but i will require an answer from you. colossians 2 the whole chapter

those are the laws i follow, which God?
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+>
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



Just one? Dang, I found two.

[link to chrles.multiply.com]

Hebrews 4:9-10 contains two instances of Theos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361353


Here is another one. In that manuscript, they use abbreviations for Jesus, Christ, God, etc. For example, they write in Greek something like this:

Jesus -> Iu
Christ -> Xu
God -> Thu or Ths
Lord -> Ku

[link to chrles.multiply.com]

In Romans 1:7 it has "Ku Iu Xu", which means Lord Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361353



you linked p26
I'm talking about p46 which has not those titles.
read the whole article which linked.
he knows what he's talking about.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Remember, a name is a Mark of Authority. And what you follow. Show me what you do, and I'll tell you your gods.

Does your feast look like the Creators feasts give FOREVER in Lev 23??

Or do the look like greek holidays to commemorate ishtar, nimrod and tamous?

Does your walk look like the Messiah's walk? Who knew no sin (sin = breaking the Creator's Law 1 John 3:4)

Or does your walk get rid of the Creators Laws and create new ones to follow based on what is "right" in your own eyes to feel Spiritual?

Do you follow the Sabbath (7th day rest to be close to the Creator) and keep it Holy (First thing the creator called Holy was time... HIS time)

Or do you follow the Catholic MARK of authority over the scriptures SUNday???


Show me what Laws you follow, and I will tell you your god's or Elohim.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


ok ill play this game, but i will require an answer from you. colossians 2 the whole chapter

those are the laws i follow, which God?
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Not enough info, did you cut out the rest of the scriptures?
Rev. 22:19

Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

Check to see if the Scriptures verify. Romans 7 (all of it)

Matthew 7:21-24 "I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (anomia: Condition without LAW) [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
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Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


hf
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ok op so you're saying all the Christians throughout the millennia who didn't pronounce the Savior's Name just the way you say they should were worshipping the wrong god? Zeus?

and you and the handful of people around the world today who ascribe to this odd sacred name teaching are the only ones correct??

and you can't see why orthodox Christianity as a whole might view your small sect as a cult???

the Bible says mark those who cause divisions in the Body and avoid them.

even if you somehow got the pronunciation just right you are avoiding 1 Corinthians 13 = love and forgetting that knowledge puffs up, but love edifies ;-)

when we are compelled to correct we are to do so with gentleness. perhaps I read you wrong but your approach seems a bit heavy handed ;-)

kindness and gentleness are fruits of the Spirit -- along with

love joy and peace

rb
 Quoting: rb 1361488


No I am not saying that. Many died in ignorance and the righteous judge who is YAH will weigh their hearts and deeds.


But I tell you about the trevail that we are in right now and I will quote the prophet Joel

Joe 2:31 the sun is turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of YHWH.
Joe 2:32 “And it shall be that everyone who calls on the Name of YHWH shall be delivered1. For on Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim there shall be an escape2 as YHWH has said, and among the survivors whom YHWH calls.


YHWH was written in the original scriptures 6800+ times
It was changed by the "translators" for "Lord"

why?


Now read Joel 2:32 is says YHWH not Lord.
Lord means Baal

are you going to call on Yahuwah (YHWH) or Baal (Lord)

its up to you
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


This was worth the price of admission into this thread for me.

Blessings to you and to all who call upon The one who laid down his life to free us from the bondage of sin.

peace,
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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


Luke 4:27
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliZEUS the Prophet: and none of them was cleansed, sauing Naaman the Syrian



and the newer King Jimmy says this:


Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliSEUS the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.




isn't funny that 'jesus' comes from ieSEUS?



many of you have been told that the name jesus is a tribute to zeus..and that there's no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..


BUT YOU HAVE STIFFENED YOUR NECKS


You say that we must worship "god" (another pagan name) in spirit and in truth...

but when confronted with the truth...you make up lies!



You sway your arms in church and say "how holy is your name!"

And you quote how "there is no other name under heaven in which men are saved"

but when told with the truth..


you then say "well god knows our hearts!"


Filthy!


Come out of Babylon and embrace Yahuwshua the one WHO WAS, IS and IS TO COME

not G-Zeus!!!



They did it to us in Spanish to...

god=Dios=Zeus
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


OP in the link that you actually provided....If you read down, it has the same verse translated through Many different Bibles, and most are saying ELISHA the Prophet. None is suggesting that name is for Jesus??

Am I missing whatever point you are trying to make?
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them" - Eph. 5:11
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Eliseus is the Greek form of Elisha
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them" - Eph. 5:11
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Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


This was worth the price of admission into this thread for me.

Blessings to you and to all who call upon The one who laid down his life to free us from the bondage of sin.

peace,
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Glad you liked it!!! :) But do not believe a word I say!!! VERIFY it for yourself.
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Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


This was worth the price of admission into this thread for me.

Blessings to you and to all who call upon The one who laid down his life to free us from the bondage of sin.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Glad you liked it!!! :) But do not believe a word I say!!! VERIFY it for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


Indeed. We should all verify all things in scripture and as we are lead by the spirit. For me, your message was a timely reminder of the great gift and, this evening, it restored my spirit.

For me, it is a deep part of the gospel message. 'Mystery Meat', if you will. lol!

peace,
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Also in that 1611 Bible, the name of Jesus is spelled Iesus.
All letter J's that we use now were I's
Matthew Chapter 1 (1611 Bible)
>>

Viewing the 1611 King James Version. Click to switch to 1769 King James Version of Matthew Chapter 1

Why does the spelling look unusual?

1 The booke of the generation of Iesus Christ, the sonne of Dauid, the sonne of Abraham.

2 Abraham begate Isaac, and Isaac begate Iacob, and Iacob begate Iudas and his brethren. (That is Jacob and Judas)

3 And Iudas begate Phares and Zara of Thamar, and Phares begate Esrom, and Esrom begate Aram.

4 And Aram begate Aminadab, and Aminadab begate Naasson, and Naasson begate Salmon.
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them" - Eph. 5:11
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and then we have the Suez canal!! Named after Zeus!!
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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


Luke 4:27
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliZEUS the Prophet: and none of them was cleansed, sauing Naaman the Syrian



and the newer King Jimmy says this:


Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliSEUS the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.




isn't funny that 'jesus' comes from ieSEUS?



many of you have been told that the name jesus is a tribute to zeus..and that there's no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..


BUT YOU HAVE STIFFENED YOUR NECKS


You say that we must worship "god" (another pagan name) in spirit and in truth...

but when confronted with the truth...you make up lies!



You sway your arms in church and say "how holy is your name!"

And you quote how "there is no other name under heaven in which men are saved"

but when told with the truth..


you then say "well god knows our hearts!"


Filthy!


Come out of Babylon and embrace Yahuwshua the one WHO WAS, IS and IS TO COME

not G-Zeus!!!



They did it to us in Spanish to...

god=Dios=Zeus
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



So.... our god is Dr. Seuss?
 Quoting: Emmeric


We will hang him on a cross.
We will not have him in a mosque.
A stone won't hold him in a hole,
As he herd his lambs into the fold.
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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]

My Wife is a bible scholar B.S M.S. She says you are RIGHT!
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Remember, a name is a Mark of Authority. And what you follow. Show me what you do, and I'll tell you your gods.

Does your feast look like the Creators feasts give FOREVER in Lev 23??

Or do the look like greek holidays to commemorate ishtar, nimrod and tamous?

Does your walk look like the Messiah's walk? Who knew no sin (sin = breaking the Creator's Law 1 John 3:4)

Or does your walk get rid of the Creators Laws and create new ones to follow based on what is "right" in your own eyes to feel Spiritual?

Do you follow the Sabbath (7th day rest to be close to the Creator) and keep it Holy (First thing the creator called Holy was time... HIS time)

Or do you follow the Catholic MARK of authority over the scriptures SUNday???


Show me what Laws you follow, and I will tell you your god's or Elohim.
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ok ill play this game, but i will require an answer from you. colossians 2 the whole chapter

those are the laws i follow, which God?
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Not enough info, did you cut out the rest of the scriptures?
Rev. 22:19

Alright, the reason christians cannot understand Paul/Rabbi Shaul, is because they never put any weight on the scriptures before Matthew (2 Peter 3:15-16 - They're unlearned because they don't know the only scriptures they had at the time, the Torah).

The law states that if you divorce and remarry, you can NEVER come back to the previous husband. Deut 24:1-4 The Creator cannot break this law, but wanted to be able to remarry the Israelites that left HIM for other gods. The creator cannot sin (Break H-s Law) so he had to find a way to fulfill this part of the law to HE remains sinless. If the husband of the divorced women DIES, then she is free from the LAW of her past husband, so she can legally choose to marry any husband and have that husbands law be hers without committing Adultary. Of course, if you take that husband back, and choose to sleep around with other gods, he can legally divorce you. (I pray you can follow the spiritual connection, and the Holy Spirit reveals this to you)

The scriptures are a love story, and the Law is Elohim's marriage covenant. The "new" testament is not new, it's a REnewed covenant, like a 'NEW' moon, it's not new, just REnewed. Yashua paid in full so us whores can come back to H-M. But not so we can continue to sin freely with fire insurance.

Check to see if the Scriptures verify. Romans 7 (all of it)

Matthew 7:21-24 "I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity (anomia: Condition without LAW) [link to www.blueletterbible.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1264444


i just love it when christians are reduced to playing tit for tat.

colossians 2:16 "Therefore let no one judge you in food or in drink, or reguarding the feastday or newmoons or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

and this one, which i was fortunate enough to find

Jeremiah 16:19 Oh Lord, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to you from the ends of the earth and say, "Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthless and unprophetable things." 20 Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods? 21 Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know My hand and My might; and they shall know my name is the Lord.

i john 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come of the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. and this is the spirit of the antichrist***, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

*** the word antichrist is used in the new testament
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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Strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. What petty bickering!
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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Strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. What petty bickering!
 Quoting: Wingedlion


hello lion, they sell stool softeners you know oh and steak knives........ just saying.ohno
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


Luke 4:27
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliZEUS the Prophet: and none of them was cleansed, sauing Naaman the Syrian



and the newer King Jimmy says this:


Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliSEUS the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.




isn't funny that 'jesus' comes from ieSEUS?



many of you have been told that the name jesus is a tribute to zeus..and that there's no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..


BUT YOU HAVE STIFFENED YOUR NECKS


You say that we must worship "god" (another pagan name) in spirit and in truth...

but when confronted with the truth...you make up lies!



You sway your arms in church and say "how holy is your name!"

And you quote how "there is no other name under heaven in which men are saved"

but when told with the truth..


you then say "well god knows our hearts!"


Filthy!


Come out of Babylon and embrace Yahuwshua the one WHO WAS, IS and IS TO COME

not G-Zeus!!!



They did it to us in Spanish to...

god=Dios=Zeus
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


So no matter HOW much you love GOD>.no matter HOW many poor people you help and feed in His name...and no matter WHAT sort of horrible death you die FOR him because of your faith..

YOU WILL BURN IN HELL because you used the wrong name.

Cause thats ALL God cares about....nothing else.

Is THAT what you are saying?
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maybe my account here at glp is messed up. i try serveral times and it wont work...anyway when i get it it will be in your box. i came acroos it today. i freaked out... my first thought was of you, stone
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just tell me the name of the video on youtube and I'll look it up
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


here you go stone, she is in the picture, i'm still trying to remember where i found her talking...chip
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: chipg





well stone what ya think???
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watching now
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Luke 4:27
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliZEUS the Prophet: and none of them was cleansed, sauing Naaman the Syrian



and the newer King Jimmy says this:


Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliSEUS the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.




isn't funny that 'jesus' comes from ieSEUS?



many of you have been told that the name jesus is a tribute to zeus..and that there's no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..


BUT YOU HAVE STIFFENED YOUR NECKS


You say that we must worship "god" (another pagan name) in spirit and in truth...

but when confronted with the truth...you make up lies!



You sway your arms in church and say "how holy is your name!"

And you quote how "there is no other name under heaven in which men are saved"

but when told with the truth..


you then say "well god knows our hearts!"


Filthy!


Come out of Babylon and embrace Yahuwshua the one WHO WAS, IS and IS TO COME

not G-Zeus!!!



They did it to us in Spanish to...

god=Dios=Zeus
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


So no matter HOW much you love GOD>.no matter HOW many poor people you help and feed in His name...and no matter WHAT sort of horrible death you die FOR him because of your faith..

YOU WILL BURN IN HELL because you used the wrong name.

Cause thats ALL God cares about....nothing else.

Is THAT what you are saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361612


that seems to be what is implied, but when we pray, we pray from the heart. and God is able to see in our hearts.

so i guess God is blind to us cause we dont know his true name, and the jewish people lost the actual translation or rather how the name is actually pronounced with our tongues. so we are all doomed?
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
oxxxxx§:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+>
YAH Stone Massive!  (OP)

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Strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. What petty bickering!
 Quoting: Wingedlion



Yes the name of elohim is vain I guess? Vain means trivial.
Is that what your saying with all of your king's english prophesying.

Exo 20:7 “You do not bring1 the Name of YHWH your Elohim to naught, for YHWH does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught



Well winged Lion are you above the scripture?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”





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