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Here's your King James 1611 Bible and your "jesus"

 
YAH Stone Massive!  (OP)

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hea stone, there you are. i found your black madonna! how can we talk?
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email me brother chip
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i found it man, can you believe it?????? she is real!!!!

what's your email?
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Yes she is real and she's coming...I'll email you right now
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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email me brother chip
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!





i found it man, can you believe it?????? she is real!!!!

what's your email?
 Quoting: chipg



Yes she is real and she's coming...I'll email you right now
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!





ok, just got the email...now how do i copy a link from u-tube to ya?
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just right click on the address in the address bar and when its highlighted blue..right click and select copy

and click in the body of the email and right click and select paste...that will give me the link
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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1. Now you do
[link to chrles.multiply.com]
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Direct quote from the title of that page:
"Literal Translation of the Original Greek New Testament"

That means the New Testament was originally written in Greek. Later on, somebody translated it into Hebrew.


2. All the apostles were Hebrew the wrote in greek but they didn't insert jesus into the scripture. They didn't insert ieseous or Jesus into the scripture either. They couldn't insert jesus because there is no J in greek.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


They wrote in Greek. For example, you quoted Paul and Timotheus's letter to the Philippians. Philippi was a city in the area of Macedonia and Greece. They spoke Greek, so of course Paul and Timotheus wrote in Greek.

You can read what they wrote in Greek here:

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

The name they used for Jesus is in Greek, something like "Iesou". That's what they wrote. You are saying they got it wrong.

Please try answering this:

Where does the bible say that people must use a Hebrew name for Jesus?
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[link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org]


Luke 4:27
And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliZEUS the Prophet: and none of them was cleansed, sauing Naaman the Syrian



and the newer King Jimmy says this:


Luk 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of EliSEUS the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.




isn't funny that 'jesus' comes from ieSEUS?



many of you have been told that the name jesus is a tribute to zeus..and that there's no letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..


BUT YOU HAVE STIFFENED YOUR NECKS


You say that we must worship "god" (another pagan name) in spirit and in truth...

but when confronted with the truth...you make up lies!



You sway your arms in church and say "how holy is your name!"

And you quote how "there is no other name under heaven in which men are saved"

but when told with the truth..


you then say "well god knows our hearts!"


Filthy!


Come out of Babylon and embrace Yahuwshua the one WHO WAS, IS and IS TO COME

not G-Zeus!!!



They did it to us in Spanish to...

god=Dios=Zeus
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


It is pretty obvious that you have never studied linguistics. The spellings elizeus and eliseus are variants of Aramaic. Hebrew was a dead language at the time of Christ, spoken only in the synagogues when reading the Torah. Ever since the restoration from the Babylonian captivity, the main language of Palestine was Aramaic, the original Assyrian language, called "Syriac" or "Chaldee" by misled scholars. Jesus spoke the Aramaic language.

And for your information/enlightenment, the word "God" is not pagan, it is Teutonic, from Gott.
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OP - You're hung up on Semantics.

The Saviour responds to the name "Jesus"

Assuming he doesnt/can't is like saying he's incapable of discerning the intentions of the person calling on him.

I am inspired to suggest to you that you focus on what's actually important.

In the name of the only begotten Son of God by whatever name in whichever language you wish to address him. He's ready and listening.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


He only is pointing out one thing that was dramatically changed from the origianl faith. Here are the rest, this is the constantine creed, the father of christianity and the enemy of the Messiah.

Constantine’s creed:

I renounce all customs, legalisms, unleavened breads and sacrifices of lambs of the Hebrews, sacrifices, prayers, aspirations, purifications, and propitiations and fasts and new moons and Sabbaths and superstitions, hymns, chants, observances, synagogues, absolutely everything Jewish, every law, rite and custom and if afterwards I shall wish to deny and return to Jewish superstition, or shall be found eating with Jews or feasting with them, or secretly conversing and condemning the Christian religion instead of openly confuting them and condemning their vain faith, then let the trembling of cain and the leprosy of gehazi. Furthermore, any follower of the “Jewish Messiah” who wish to join this “holy community” was compelled to adopt a different set of rules and customs. Subsequently special creeds were drafted, to which the Christian would have to swear such as: I accept all the customs, rites, legalism, and feast of the romans, sacrifices, prayers, purifications with water, sanctifications by potificus maxmus (high priest of rome), propiations, and feasts and the NEW SABBATH “SOL DIE” and new chants and observances, and all the foods and drinks of the romans. In other words, I absolutely accept everything roman, every new law, rite and custom of roman and new roman religion.”

Jer 16:19 “gentiles shall come to you form the ends of the earth and say, we have inherited lies from our fathers”


Con. Changed EVERYTHING!!!! You have nothing left of the original faith once he was done!!! All you have is a roman belief, even the names were changed to fit their gods....

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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Php 2:9 Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 that at the Name of Yahuwshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue should confess that Yahuwshua Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father.




Only one name people
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


The bible quote you posted has been changed by somebody. Here is what it says in the KJV.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Philippians 2:9)

You can check what the Greek says here. that they wrote it in says here:

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Paul and Timotheus wrote that letter in Greek. Why would they write Jesus's name in Greek if everybody is supposed to use a Hebrew name?

You say it is vital that everybody uses that Hebrew name you posted above. Where does the bible say that people must use a Hebrew name for Jesus? Do any of the standard versions of the bible use a Hebrew name for Jesus?
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Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Yup.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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This is official Ya'srael business! There are lost sheep that will come out of the churches and find their Father YAH.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


shouldn't they be more concerned about finding YAH ??

what importance does the term 'father' add to the understanding ??


if you are concerned about one precise exact name, then leave the word 'father' out of it all together....


how about this:

This is official Ya'srael business! There are lost sheep that will come out of the churches and find YAH.


does that take anything away from God ??

or does it take away from fathers ??
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It is pretty obvious that you have never studied linguistics. The spellings elizeus and eliseus are variants of Aramaic. Hebrew was a dead language at the time of Christ, spoken only in the synagogues when reading the Torah. Ever since the restoration from the Babylonian captivity, the main language of Palestine was Aramaic, the original Assyrian language, called "Syriac" or "Chaldee" by misled scholars. Jesus spoke the Aramaic language.

And for your information/enlightenment, the word "God" is not pagan, it is Teutonic, from Gott.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361399




Oh boy...here we go...
the tanakh was not orignally written in aramaic

so there was a great example from the tanakh to pull the hebrew name Elishua (Elisha) and not INSERT ZEUS


"The Tanakh was mainly written in Biblical Hebrew, with some portions (notably in Daniel and Ezra) in Biblical Aramaic"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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This is official Ya'srael business! There are lost sheep that will come out of the churches and find their Father YAH.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


shouldn't they be more concerned about finding YAH ??

what importance does the term 'father' add to the understanding ??


if you are concerned about one precise exact name, then leave the word 'father' out of it all together....


how about this:

This is official Ya'srael business! There are lost sheep that will come out of the churches and find YAH.


does that take anything away from God ??

or does it take away from fathers ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf



I'm cool with that. : )
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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maybe my account here at glp is messed up. i try serveral times and it wont work...anyway when i get it it will be in your box. i came acroos it today. i freaked out... my first thought was of you, stone
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just tell me the name of the video on youtube and I'll look it up
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.

Remember that P46 is dated from between 180 AY to 230 AY (after YaHuWshuwa). That means that it is well over 1700 years old.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Jesus would probably rather us call Him 'friend' than anything since He wants a relationship with all of us so we can all be saved. Arguing about this won't lead to anywhere. It's not like He'll be like "Welp, you called me Jesus. There was no J back then. lol Sorry".

All I know is I feel His holy spirit is what He wants us to have and calling on Him from your heart, He will give it to you.
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These are still forked tongue & forked mind translations.

AYU not YAH

Man created in the image of god = I / You

AYU

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Jesus would probably rather us call Him 'friend' than anything since He wants a relationship with all of us so we can all be saved. Arguing about this won't lead to anywhere. It's not like He'll be like "Welp, you called me Jesus. There was no J back then. lol Sorry".

All I know is I feel His holy spirit is what He wants us to have and calling on Him from your heart, He will give it to you.
 Quoting: Lotus Petal



hmmmm....I read it a little differently


Joh 3:16 For Elohim so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For Elohim sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Elohim.


The true sheep of Ya'srael will here his voice. This is a shofar blast for these!

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.

Remember that P46 is dated from between 180 AY to 230 AY (after YaHuWshuwa). That means that it is well over 1700 years old.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Are you talking about "Papyrus 46"?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Papyrus 46 (in the Gregory-Aland numbering), designated by P46, is one of the oldest extant New Testament manuscripts in Greek, written on papyrus, with its 'most probable date' between 175-225."
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CHALLENGE ANYONE to find JUST ONE PLACE where kurios, theos, Iecous or christos is used for YHWH, ALWHYM, YHWShWA or MShYCh.

Remember that P46 is dated from between 180 AY to 230 AY (after YaHuWshuwa). That means that it is well over 1700 years old.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Are you talking about "Papyrus 46"?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Papyrus 46 (in the Gregory-Aland numbering), designated by P46, is one of the oldest extant New Testament manuscripts in Greek, written on papyrus, with its 'most probable date' between 175-225."
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yes I linked it earlier in the thread
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Php 2:9 Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 that at the Name of Yahuwshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue should confess that Yahuwshua Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father.




Only one name people
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


The bible quote you posted has been changed by somebody. Here is what it says in the KJV.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Philippians 2:9)

You can check what the Greek says here. that they wrote it in says here:

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Paul and Timotheus wrote that letter in Greek. Why would they write Jesus's name in Greek if everybody is supposed to use a Hebrew name?

You say it is vital that everybody uses that Hebrew name you posted above. Where does the bible say that people must use a Hebrew name
for Jesus? Do any of the standard versions of the bible use a Hebrew name for Jesus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361353



Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


So OP you are such a bible scholar what was God saying in Genesis 3:15 ?
A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †.
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There is a God, and only he can save you! Repent now,for you have broken law!
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yes, answer a question with the same question.
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Exactly! Someone seeking truth must be able to admit that if they are wrong then there is a possibility that the other side could, or another explanation could be correct. But he belittles a legitimate question.
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Are you talking about "Papyrus 46"?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Papyrus 46 (in the Gregory-Aland numbering), designated by P46, is one of the oldest extant New Testament manuscripts in Greek, written on papyrus, with its 'most probable date' between 175-225."
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


yes I linked it earlier in the thread


Well why don't you go look up Philippians 2:10 in P46, and read what name they used for Jesus? P46 is written in Greek, most likely they wrote "Iesou" in Greek.
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Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.


So OP you are such a bible scholar what was God saying in Genesis 3:15 ?
 Quoting: Godsontoo


follower of god:

First of all I never said I was a scholar.
If you read the first post of the thread you can see the name ZEUS clearly inserted into the KJV 1611.

Now are you trying to derail the good news that I'm bringing about the name of the son of the Most High YAH? So I can argue about the serpent and the seed of the woman?

It is clear that the name of savior is closer to the English name "Joshua" how did we get G-Zeus?

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Php 2:9 Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name,
Php 2:10 that at the Name of Yahuwshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Php 2:11 and every tongue should confess that Yahuwshua Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father.




Only one name people
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


The bible quote you posted has been changed by somebody. Here is what it says in the KJV.

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
(Philippians 2:9)

You can check what the Greek says here. that they wrote it in says here:

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

Paul and Timotheus wrote that letter in Greek. Why would they write Jesus's name in Greek if everybody is supposed to use a Hebrew name?

You say it is vital that everybody uses that Hebrew name you posted above. Where does the bible say that people must use a Hebrew name for Jesus? Do any of the standard versions of the bible use a Hebrew name for Jesus?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361353



Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Yup.
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im proud of you TXGal..im referring to the avatar adjustment

God will bless you for this..if he already hasnt ;)

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Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.


So OP you are such a bible scholar what was God saying in Genesis 3:15 ?
 Quoting: Godsontoo


follower of god:

First of all I never said I was a scholar.
If you read the first post of the thread you can see the name ZEUS clearly inserted into the KJV 1611.

Now are you trying to derail the good news that I'm bringing about the name of the son of the Most High YAH? So I can argue about the serpent and the seed of the woman?

It is clear that the name of savior is closer to the English name "Joshua" how did we get G-Zeus?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


How do you get zeus its not phonetics you know , do you think for one second that God the father is going to deny his children because of a translation that is not completely incorrect.
A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †.
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It is pretty obvious that you have never studied linguistics. The spellings elizeus and eliseus are variants of Aramaic. Hebrew was a dead language at the time of Christ, spoken only in the synagogues when reading the Torah. Ever since the restoration from the Babylonian captivity, the main language of Palestine was Aramaic, the original Assyrian language, called "Syriac" or "Chaldee" by misled scholars. Jesus spoke the Aramaic language.

And for your information/enlightenment, the word "God" is not pagan, it is Teutonic, from Gott.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361399




Oh boy...here we go...
the tanakh was not orignally written in aramaic

so there was a great example from the tanakh to pull the hebrew name Elishua (Elisha) and not INSERT ZEUS


"The Tanakh was mainly written in Biblical Hebrew, with some portions (notably in Daniel and Ezra) in Biblical Aramaic"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Well, the language of the Tanakh is another issue, a difficult one to be sure. The only reason we have difficulty is about the time of origin. Did the books Genesis through Song of Solomon originally exist in Hebrew, or were they written after the restoration in Aramaic, and "doctored" to appear like original writings? There is speculation that the Scribe Ezra actually created a Hebrew mythology about the Egyptian captivity and Exodus through the wilderness, since history does not corroborate the biblical account. The Aramaic sections that you allude to in Ezra / Daniel are post captivity.
The Samaritan Pentateuch is in Hebrew, the only Scripture that was accepted by the Sadducees.
Another interesting linguistic problem is that of the New Testament itself. There is considerable textual evidence that at least 22 of the 27 NT books were originally written in Aramaic, or even Hebrew. There actually exists a fairly reliable Hebrew text of Matthew from the library of Caesarea. Greek was the lingua franca of the first century, that explains why we have a Greek NT, but it doesn't explain the original composition.
Let's confuse the issue a little more, there exists an Aramaic translation of the entire Bible called the Peshitta, which dates later (about AD140), but explains some of the Aramaicisms, especially in the gospels of Matthew and Mark.
I am very interested in the linguistic problems of the Bible, but am appalled at nonbelievers exploiting hidden linguistic issues as fallacies to undermine faith. The 1611 KJV is only a translation, employing the best textual witness that existed at that time. Let's just give them a break, we know a lot more today.
Back to your original question, I agree that the KJV translators would have done everyone a favor if they had agreed on consistent spellings of names. But they were organized into committees that worked independently, so for instance we have "Nebuchadnezzar" and "Nebuchadrezzar" being one and the same person. The Aramaicisms are just one more example of this.
Please do not take these comments personally, they are not intended that way.
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Your answer is in P46 the Papyrus dated in the 2nd centry where KURIOS (the LORD), THEOS (God), CHRISTOS (christ) and IHCOUS (Jesus) are not found. It is over 1700 years old!


The Mashiach was HEBREW bro..he had a Hebrew name.


So OP you are such a bible scholar what was God saying in Genesis 3:15 ?
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follower of god:

First of all I never said I was a scholar.
If you read the first post of the thread you can see the name ZEUS clearly inserted into the KJV 1611.

Now are you trying to derail the good news that I'm bringing about the name of the son of the Most High YAH? So I can argue about the serpent and the seed of the woman?

It is clear that the name of savior is closer to the English name "Joshua" how did we get G-Zeus?
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How do you get zeus its not phonetics you know , do you think for one second that God the father is going to deny his children because of a translation that is not completely incorrect.
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I linked John 3:18 where it says that people are judged because they BELIEVED NOT in the NAME of the son of Elohim.

In Spanish we use Dios for the most high...why?

Because the name Dios means Zeus
[link to www.theoi.com]


We in English are not immune to deception.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Here os a excellent article on how the name Jesus came about.
A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. †.
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OP. The LORD is cool calling him in whatever language you use. I know this because otherwise I would not be able to drive out demons or heal the sick through his name. There would be no protection from witches if he did not answer. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour.banana2
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Here os a excellent article on how the name Jesus came about.
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You also believe in the name Lord which means this


[link to www.blueletterbible.org]


Baal!



Look I hope I don't come off as a know it all because that's not what I aim to do. I truly do care and I'm trying to share truth. I too had to make the same change after 12 years in jesus.


I want you to see the spiritual deception that has taken place with the translators of the word and the Hellenization of the early congregation of believers.


Why fight it tooth and nail? Ask yourself that.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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OP. The LORD is cool calling him in whatever language you use. I know this because otherwise I would not be able to drive out demons or heal the sick through his name. There would be no protection from witches if he did not answer. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour.banana2
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people drive out spirits in the name of mary


that should tell you something.
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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I linked John 3:18 where it says that people are judged because they BELIEVED NOT in the NAME of the son of Elohim.

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huh ??

John 3:18

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.


'course that verse also promotes the separation of parent and child....





GLP