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nedlog
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highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/05/2011 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not sure if I got your point correct Quoting: nedlogI would say the differncens in the diagram are not shown because you are look from above onto the solarsystem. From the earth you has an inside sideways view. That make the difference. the point is the Crescent Moon,Venus,Jupiter conjunction is in different places depending what hemisphere you are in From the northern hemisphere it was to the left of the Sun From the southern hemisphere it was to the right of the Sun From the Equator or above it was in line with the Sun Last Edited by highwic on 04/30/2011 05:55 AM |
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highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/07/2011 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That shows that the Planets are behind the Sun .. with means that you could not see them, because the sun is in front of them, and it day(light) when you try to watch them??? Quoting: nedlogthey were seen @ Sunset and into the darkness, the photo from the Equator shows the correct position, look @ the crescent moon it tells you where the Sun is here is a better photo of conjunction from southern hemisphere [link to spaceweather.com] the photos from Northern and Southern hemispheres are as it appeared from there they show conjunction to right and left of Sun, both are wrong Last Edited by highwic on 04/07/2011 06:43 AM |
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highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jupiter is 35-40 deg out of its correct place on all sky charts so what is the big bright object in Jupiter's place ?? heres a better first image [link to img546.imageshack.us] Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 07:43 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1350796 United States 04/26/2011 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so why have they placed Jupiter in the wrong place on sky maps ? Quoting: highwic[link to img855.imageshack.us] I went to the jpl site and typed in elenin with the date that you mention. Maybe you can use this for comparison purposes? hth |
highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong the "solar system live" image @ the top of this page clearly states the viewing position is 47 deg N Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 09:27 PM |
TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong the "solar system live" image @ the top of this page clearly states the viewing position is 47 deg N Quoting: highwicBut in the top image, you are not on earth. You are in space. Where did you get that image? Last Edited by TBar1984 on 04/26/2011 09:32 PM |
highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong the "solar system live" image @ the top of this page clearly states the viewing position is 47 deg N Quoting: highwicBut in the top image, you are not on earth. You are in space. read the stuff under the image it says the observing site is 47 deg N does it not, answer the ? |
TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wrong the "solar system live" image @ the top of this page clearly states the viewing position is 47 deg N Quoting: highwicBut in the top image, you are not on earth. You are in space. read the stuff under the image it says the observing site is 47 deg N does it not, answer the ? I can see that, I can also see I'm looking at the solar system from Space... Where did you get that image? Last Edited by TBar1984 on 04/26/2011 09:36 PM |
highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now bring up solar system live for 1 Dec 08 and change the observing site to 47 deg S and you will find no change to the position of Jupiter and Venus the below photo clearly shows otherwise :Southern Hemisph: Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 09:39 PM |
highwic
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TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: highwic OK, I'm looking at this page - [link to www.fourmilab.ch] Do you know what Horizontal Parallax is? Do you know that the farther away the body the less of a correction? Once you get further out than the Moon, the correction is very small. So small, you probably can forget about it unless you are zooming in with a telescope. |
highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: highwic OK, I'm looking at this page - [link to www.fourmilab.ch] Do you know what Horizontal Parallax is? Do you know that the farther away the body the less of a correction? Once you get further out than the Moon, the correction is very small. So small, you probably can forget about it unless you are zooming in with a telescope. have you put the date 1 DEC 08 and change the observing site from 47 deg N to 47 deg S ? also change size to 520 easier to see things Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 10:02 PM |
TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: highwic OK, I'm looking at this page - [link to www.fourmilab.ch] Do you know what Horizontal Parallax is? Do you know that the farther away the body the less of a correction? Once you get further out than the Moon, the correction is very small. So small, you probably can forget about it unless you are zooming in with a telescope. have you put the date 1 DEC 08 and change the observing site from 47 deg N to 47 deg S ? Yes, and as I mentioned above, the HP correction is so small you don't see it in such a crude display. Maybe you would in the GLP scope, but it would be very small. |
highwic
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TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no change in the position of Jupiter and Venus, right ? Quoting: highwicLook here, page 317 first column they show the Horizontal Parallax correction for the sun. ZERO - there is no correction due to the distance of the Sun from Earth [link to www.irbs.com] You would have to look in the Nautical Almanac to get the correction for the planets, but it would be USELESS because the change would be extremely SMALL!!! Page 319, they show the Horizontal Parallax correction to the Moon, it equates to a correction of 4.0' which is 4 nautical miles on earth. 2007. Reducing A Moon Sight The moon is easy to identify and is often visible during the day. However, the moon’s proximity to the earth requires applying additional corrections to ha to obtain ho. This section will cover moon sight reduction. At 10-00-00 GMT, June 16, 1994, the navigator obtains a sight of the moon’s upper limb. Hs is 26° 06.7'. Height of eye is 18 feet; there is no index error. Determine ho, the moon’s GHA, and the moon’s declination. See Figure 2007. Body Moon (UL) Index Correction 0.0' Dip (18 feet) -4.1' Sum -4.1' Sextant Altitude (hs) 26° 06.7' Apparent Altitude (ha) 26° 02.6' Altitude Correction +60.5' Additional Correction 0.0' Horizontal Parallax (58.4) +4.0' Moon Upper Limb Correction -30.0' Correction to ha +34.5' Observed Altitude (ho) 26° 37.1' Last Edited by TBar1984 on 04/26/2011 10:17 PM |
highwic
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TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | forget complicating the issue just answer the ? Quoting: highwicdid Jupiter and Venus change position when you chaged the viewing position to 47 deg S yes or no No, they will not change on that display because the correction is so small it would not be noticed. Are you really trying to say that Jupiter is 47 degrees off because of the viewing location Horizontal Parallax, that you can't see being applied? |
highwic
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highwic
(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | huge changes mate HUMONGUS AS SHOWN in image @ top of page you are as thick as pig shit Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 10:33 PM |
TBar1984
User ID: 1254186 United States 04/26/2011 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | forget complicating the issue just answer the ? Quoting: highwicdid Jupiter and Venus change position when you chaged the viewing position to 47 deg S yes or no No, they will not change on that display because the correction is so small it would not be noticed. Are you really trying to say that Jupiter is 47 degrees off because of the viewing location Horizontal Parallax, that you can't see being applied? You really are saying that, aren't you... |
highwic
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(OP) User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/26/2011 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | viewed from the Equator is the same as above, the Crescent moon tells you where the Sun is , directly in line, my case stands the corrupt sites have shifted Jupiter to compensate for the incoming dwarf star which they could not ignore any longer Last Edited by highwic on 04/26/2011 11:59 PM |
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