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nahoj
User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nahoj ~ Quoting: ~ Allie LIIS 392401Yes, I truly also believe it really is that simple. Love to you. Love is smiles :) :) :)!!! O! I have to admit it isn't that simple to really do it, but I always will try. But I'm a human, so I make mistakes. But When I do I try to learn from them. When everyone has a smile, I'll be happy. |
Little Star
User ID: 273434 United States 04/26/2008 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Little Star ~ Quoting: ~ Allie LIIS 392401How do you spend your time spreading love to others? I am not meaning to call you out or anything. I really just am asking as I am curious. Do you do community work or some kind of work through a certain religious establishment? nahoj ~ Yes, I truly also believe it really is that simple. Love to you. Love is smiles :) :) :)!!! Message ~ Like alcolyte, I love the way you always sign your words. :)!!! O! Hi! First off, I am a simple person who cares for people. Some make it harder than others, but hey, we are really all one big family. I am a Christian, trying to be one, but falling short to some standards that some put on me. Kind of like love, we all have standards. lol There is no church that I attend as a home church, but I do got to churches and meet with people and have done many community work through the churches. I don't attend any church because of what I been seeing going on. I look at churches and see love drifting away. I look at people in the streets and I see love drifting away. The main reason I posted anything on this wonderful thread is because of the theme; love! Love is drifting away, and only those who have found themselves will have the love come back at them. When you give love, it comes back. Sometimes on blogs talking to people you don't know, they make it hard to love them, and you wonder if it is the imperfections of self that makes them harsh. With that I can say in my imperfections, I love everyone. That is all I have to offer. |
Darza
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Darza
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Darza
User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a simple person Quoting: Little Starwe are really all one big family. we all have standards. lol the theme; love! When you give love, it comes back. With that I can say in my imperfections, I love everyone. That is all I have to offer. Hi Little Star, regarding love i only have 1 standard: can you receive? That is it, if one cannot receive i look for others, selfish really. I love to love, i love love. |
Little Star
User ID: 273434 United States 04/26/2008 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a simple person Quoting: Darzawe are really all one big family. we all have standards. lol the theme; love! When you give love, it comes back. With that I can say in my imperfections, I love everyone. That is all I have to offer. Hi Little Star, regarding love i only have 1 standard: can you receive? That is it, if one cannot receive i look for others, selfish really. I love to love, i love love. I was talking about how wonderful it is to see a thread about just love, on another thread which has Christians on it. I like your standard by the way. I can meet that standard, and love you back. Many blessings to you, and may the day give you gifts of love all day long. |
Darza
User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Allie, i remember you talked of children, is this thread not one of them? About the pictures, nothing i post is mine, people can do anything with it even take it out of context, does not matter to me. I got the pictures from "Oannes", the visionary artist. I told him i will borrow" his picture and he did not object, now i am posting them everywhere for him to find. :peacemantr: :engpeacema: |
Tryptamine
User ID: 423019 Canada 04/26/2008 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is an excellent thought to meditate on, it is only through finding and equanimity within ourselves, that we will be able to achieve and experience peace on a extrinsic level outside of ourselves. Quoting: :)(:As within so without. I like this thread Smiles. Tryptamine ~ I like being called Smiles. Thank you :)! Haha, but my name is Allie if you would like to call me that. What does "Tryptamine" stand for? Is it a stone? I loved your statement in response to mine. I read it over several times yesterday and this morning. As within so without. As above so below. Darza ~ O! Smiles is a rad name for you. Tryptamine basically stands for a group of alkaloid compounds that may or may not be related to spiritual development in human beings. They're sometimes are considered neurotransmitters found in the human brain, nervous system and also in plants and fungi. (There are thousands of Neurotransmitters, mostly unknown/unknowable?) ie: Magic mushrooms. and DMT (DimethylTryptamine - The most powerful psychoactive substance on the planet) I am glad you enjoyed my statement Allie. See ya smiles ;) Why do you care what other peoples egos think? |
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(OP) User ID: 392401 United States 04/26/2008 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi! Quoting: Little StarFirst off, I am a simple person who cares for people. Some make it harder than others, but hey, we are really all one big family. I am a Christian, trying to be one, but falling short to some standards that some put on me. Kind of like love, we all have standards. lol There is no church that I attend as a home church, but I do got to churches and meet with people and have done many community work through the churches. I don't attend any church because of what I been seeing going on. I look at churches and see love drifting away. I look at people in the streets and I see love drifting away. The main reason I posted anything on this wonderful thread is because of the theme; love! Love is drifting away, and only those who have found themselves will have the love come back at them. When you give love, it comes back. Sometimes on blogs talking to people you don't know, they make it hard to love them, and you wonder if it is the imperfections of self that makes them harsh. With that I can say in my imperfections, I love everyone. That is all I have to offer. Little Star ~ I was raised Christian (Roman Catholic - so far I was confirmed). It is my background, yet I have a passion for all different religions. I suppose it has something to do with my passion for people. If I had to name it I would say my religion is "the religion of people". People are me teachers, my guides and my family. Love is a circle. I fully agree. I am glad that that is what you have to offer. Love is of the most true thing there is, as I feel. I understand where you are coming from... sometimes it is hard to not be angered by people if all we see are their words and their pictures. Usually when this happens I don't like to brush it over, but will strive really hard to get to know that poster best I can. We all have reasons for typing what we do. The more I live and the more I interact, the more I am realizing that we are closer than we think we are :). I love you, Brother Little Star! nahoj ~ Sometimes it isn't so simple... yet to hate, feel anger, feel pain, feel sadness, feel seperate, just isn't really that easy either. But it can be a habit. One I fall into at times. I like being a work-in-progress moving toward LOVE. Cheers to you. Darza ~ Perfect. I am glad. :)!!! What about the children are you asking? Love to All, ONE! Absorbing, Reflecting, That marvelous circle :), O! “You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself,” ~ Alan Alda --- "Conscious breathing of the universe creates a symphony where we receive life like a gift and release it like a present." ~ Akiane O! |
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(OP) User ID: 392401 United States 04/26/2008 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ie: Magic mushrooms. and DMT (DimethylTryptamine - The most powerful psychoactive substance on the planet) Quoting: TryptamineI am glad you enjoyed my statement Allie. See ya smiles ;) Tryptamine ~ I saw it and at first I read "Trip-da-mind". I thought it may have something to do with that :). I have heard about shrooms, DMT and the like. I have heard about the idea that DMT is naturally in the penal gland. I am not entirely sure how I feel about the subject yet I do use fluoride-free toothpaste. I have also taken several different types of hallucinogenics on different occasions. Personally, I have found that I prefer a clear-minded meditation (nothing but food and water) as this makes me feel most connected and most in control. Some differ from me on this choice. This is merely my choice. I am glad for your reply. I love to see where others are coming from. How have your meditation experiences been going? I am assuming you meditate. Sorry if I am wrong in that assumption :). Love BLASTS to All, ONE! O! “You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself,” ~ Alan Alda --- "Conscious breathing of the universe creates a symphony where we receive life like a gift and release it like a present." ~ Akiane O! |
xana
User ID: 77394 United States 04/26/2008 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | X ~ Quoting: :)(:You should know that "to take a miracle walk" has been on my mind ever since shared a month+ ago. Ever since it's been a growing practice of mine and one shared (with joy-filled results). You should know that though in our "individual" states we grow rather distant, at our hearts I only feel closer to you. I am thankful for that... there is such a peace of mind, a true acceptance, found there. Love to all, ONE! O! Hi Allie... That miracle walk concept has been in my heart ever since, as well.... have been doing it ever since. Here's the info: :hf: Here's a lovely quote from Sark's book, Living Juicy, I'd like to share with you: Practice Miracle Walking "A miracle walk is open and soft, ready for anything: a galloping child, a chorus of lit pumpkins, a woman in a blue scarf and a big smile, a dog carrying a long loaf of bread. I think that miracle walking is so magical, because there is actually the time to connect with people and animals along the way. It allows "micro vision" to take place: the hummingbird's vibrating visit, the ant march, the skipping child... As you walk, be looking for miracles along the way..." Enjoy your springtime miracle walking and notice all that is buzzing with life. [New Vision] Intuition Blog #38 3/25/2008 Let's all take a MIRACLE WALK in as many moments as we can... the colors and smells are incredible. To me they seem more intense, as is what is my feeling/tone with this beautiful planet/universe. (hee hee... always have trouble 'stopping' at 'just' our home planet... as above so below... our universe and cosmos... ) It's all a miracle of love. xana . We need a reason for speaking; we need none for keeping silent. Pierre Nicole |
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Darza
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Darza
User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have heard about shrooms, DMT and the like. I have heard about the idea that DMT is naturally in the penal gland. I am not entirely sure how I feel about the subject yet I do use fluoride-free toothpaste. Quoting: :)(:Hi Allie, about the decalcifying of the pineal gland, i am also working on this, creating my own dmt, recently i learned from glp 1 spoon of vinegar a day works, as does meditation, receiving energy on the crown of the head, and smoking weed. It is a recent thread somewhere, more tips there. |
nahoj
User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nahoj ~ Quoting: :)(:Sometimes it isn't so simple... yet to hate, feel anger, feel pain, feel sadness, feel seperate, just isn't really that easy either. But it can be a habit. One I fall into at times. I like being a work-in-progress moving toward LOVE. Cheers to you. O! Very wise words :) Yes loving everybody is difficult, but for me hating anybody is impossible :) When everyone has a smile, I'll be happy. |
Darza
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Cosmo Healing Edification Love User ID: 422745 Portugal 04/26/2008 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first thing that we are going to do is describe for you the different ET groups that have interacted with Earth throughout history. Now obviously there have been quite a few, so we are going to give you just some of the main characters, and we are also going to have to generalize a little bit. The first group we would like to describe for you is the group that we call Lyrans. You might say that they were the authority figures. You will find that during the times they were most active on the Earth they used symbols to depict their group; the most common symbols they used were of birds and of cats. To describe what these ETs physically looked like, we will generalize: Generally, the Lyrans were built in a very sturdy way, Caucasian-like, very large. Generally, they had light skin, and even though light hair and eyes were the most common, you would sometimes find Lyrans with dark hair. As a group one of their most predominant characteristics was being authoritative. Often throughout history they played the role of, in a sense, parents. They were very strict. They had a lot of dogma. You might say they were like father figures. Humans both loved them and feared them, much like an authoritative parent. Another group that was here very much throughout history were the Sirians. The symbols they used throughout time were usually of serpents or dogs. Physically, as a generality, the Sirians had darker skin, darker hair and eyes, and were not as large as the Lyrans. As far as their personality characteristics, we would say that they were very devoted to serving mankind. Whereas the Lyrans were committed to ruling mankind, the Sirians were interested in helping or sometimes even saving mankind. They could be very, very zealous, and because of that trait, they often interfered where they did not belong. But you could say they were the crusaders for mankind. The other significant group that we will mention are the Pleiadians. Their symbols were also at times birds or winged figures. They also used the symbol of the seven stars. Physically, and again we must generalize, they were similar in skin, hair and eye color to the Lyrans but much smaller. So, for instance, a typical Pleiadian woman would look very much like this channel in size. Now the Pleiadians had a very, very deep love of mankind. It would take too much time to explain why, but genetically they are connected to you, so often throughout history they have been drawn back to Earth in order to help humans. Not only do they have a genetic connection but they also have an emotional connection. They always tried to nurture and protect you like a mother. Now you know that you may have two parents, a mother and a father who love you very much, but at the same time these two parents may also fight over you. Sometimes they may even manipulate you to get back at the spouse. The same thing happened with these ETs. They often, in their love for you, fought over you. Unfortunately, they also at times manipulated you. Because the ETs often fought amongst themselves there were often territory disputes about the land and the people of Earth, and so often the Earth was divided into sections and certain ET rulers would be responsible for certain sections. It is unfortunate that a lot of the information about these times has been lost. However, some of it remains in the Sumerian texts and we will talk a little bit about that later. Before we go into the future it is important to say one thing. Ancient humankind was never a victim of these ETs. All beings create their own reality for their own purposes of learning and growth, and ancient humankind was the same way. We never like to put humans in the role of being victims. Atlantis and the Great Flood We are going to begin our story by talking about Atlantis. Most of you are somewhat familiar with what happened in Atlantis. Generally speaking, there was a lot of extraterrestrial fighting going on during that time. There was also a lot human corruption going on as well. Many of you have already heard about the destruction of Atlantis and we are not really going to get to talk in depth about why Atlantis was destroyed because in some ways it is another subject. But we are setting the stage for the other information that we would like to present. Now some of you are familiar with the Christian story about Noah. As the story goes, Noah was warned by a serpent and told to build an ark. Everyone thought Noah was crazy, but he built his ark anyway; as the story goes, because he built the ark he was able to save humans and animals. Now he built the ark at the same time as the destruction of Atlantis. Obviously, a serpent did not really tell him to build an ark; but as we previously said, the Sirians used serpent symbols to depict themselves. There wasn't just one Noah, but many humans around the planet who received the Sirian message to build arks, for the Sirians really wanted mankind to be saved. It is unfortunate to say, but the Lyrans did not want mankind to be saved. They were not going to tell anyone about the flood that was coming. To simplify the reason for this we will simply say that the Lyrans preferred to start over again with Earth and that is why they were going to allow the destruction of mankind. You all know the story about Noah and that he was successful. Many humans around the planet were spared from the flood and they were still able to flourish as a race. It took some time but eventually major civilizations came into being again. The main historically recognizable one was Sumeria. At the point where Sumeria began flourishing, the ETs began coming back to Earth; mostly Sirians but also some Lyrans. The territory disputes began again and they had to divide the Earth into regions that different ETs began to rule. Once again the ETs began fighting amongst themselves, and once again mankind became like puppets. Many, many, many of these stories are recorded quite clearly in the Sumerian texts. They have not all been translated but some of them have been. We are aware that there is a book on your world and we believe it is translated into Japanese. The title of it is The Twelfth Planet. The author is Zecharia Sitchin. If any of you are particularly interested in finding out some of the juicy dramas that occurred in Sumeria you will find them in this book. We would like to use Sumeria as the beginning point for modern history because so much of the ETs' conditioning of humans was absorbed during Sumerian times; some of that is still being played out today, unconsciously. First, let's talk about the pyramids. In ancient days in Sumeria there were structures very similar to the pyramids that you now find in the Yucatan. They had flat tops which were landing areas for the extraterrestrial spacecraft. All of these pyramids are now buried, mostly in the area you know as Iraq. Many of them are really in ruins. You might not even recognize them as pyramids. However, you still have the Great Pyramid. Anyone who has ever visited Egypt may have sensed that the pyramid is not necessarily Egyptian. You know if you have been inside it that there are absolutely no inscriptions on the walls. In fact, there is no architecture at all that even suggests anything Egyptian. That is because the first version of that pyramid was built during the time of Sumeria. It is much, much older than scientists know now. It has been reconstructed several times. However, that pyramid was used for at least a thousand years, if not more than that, as a very important extraterrestrial base. As many of you suspect, there are a lot of chambers still undiscovered. What is quite interesting is that the Sumerian texts ... of course, Sumeria is older than Egypt ... talk about the Great Pyramid. That alone would tell you that the pyramid is older than the Egyptian civilization. The pyramid was used in a lot of the territory disputes. It was considered the prized possession; whoever held that pyramid was the dominant ET group. The Importance of Genetics Now I am going to stop here for a moment and we are going to talk about how important genetics were to these ancient ETs. Each ET group that was interacting with humans at that time felt it was very important to control the genetic mixture of humans on Earth. Ultimately, the ET groups wanted to create an advanced version of mankind that they could then begin incarnating into. So they tried to control the breeding on Earth for thousands of years. There is a very interesting creation story that comes from Egypt. It is the story of Osiris and Isis. The story put simply is this: Isis and Osiris were brother and sister and also husband and wife. The story says that Set, another Egyptian god, was very jealous and he sought to kill Osiris. Set found Osiris, cut him up into many pieces and scattered the pieces all over Egypt. Isis was so upset that she sought help of her colleagues and went about trying to find all of the pieces of Osiris to put him together again. The story says that she found all of the pieces except the phallus. But she was able to put Osiris together again anyway and he lived. Isis spent the night with Osiris and was impregnated. She was impregnated with Horus. You may wonder how Isis could have been impregnated if Osiris did not have a phallus. Well, who ever said these myths make sense? We are going to give our version of this story. Isis and Osiris were two of the most prominent ruling ET gods on Earth at that time. Set was also a very prestigious ET ruler, although he was secondary to Osiris. But Set craved power. He knew that if Osiris and Isis stayed together and had a child, that child Horus would be ruler and he, Set, would stay in the secondary position, so he had to find a way to kill Osiris. During this time the ETs had a lot of technology. He knew that he had to destroy the reproductive organs of Osiris, otherwise they could still produce offspring. We would say that the myth of cutting Osiris up and spreading the pieces around is really just a metaphor for the idea that Osiris was killed and his body was hidden. His body was hidden but not destroyed because Set believed that maybe some time in the future Osiris' genetics could be used to his advantage. But the phallus was taken and put in another location. Now, Isis found Osiris' body. Obviously, she could not have been impregnated by a dead husband with no phallus. [Germane laughs.] They did have a lot of technology then, though, and Osiris' life was restored; but he could not reproduce in the usual way. So the legend says that they went up to the heavens but, of course, they went up to the ship. And what they did was take some of Osiris' genetics and clone them with Isis' genetics to produce Horus. Through a series of cloning and artificial insemination and processes that you are not familiar with here on Earth, Horus was created, they didn't need the phallus to do it, and Egyptian history talks about the divine birth of Horus. So Horus was born and he became a very powerful ruler. Set, of course, was always angry. This is an example of how a myth that may not make sense does make sense if you look at it from another point of view. Earth history is filled with myths that seemingly do not make sense, but they really are stories of not only your extraterrestrial heritage but also of the adventures of your forefathers. Now let's stop here. We would like to know if there are any questions about the material that has been presented so far. Q: The Earth human at this time, I believe, was in third density. What dimension or frequency were the Sirians in when they thought of this idea of controlling mankind? They also would be considered third density. In terms of the evolutionary scale, they were at the same place in third density that you are at in third density now. Humans on your planet, as a whole, do similar types of manipulations at this point in evolution. Eventually, as time passed, these beings did transition into fourth density but that was some time down the line. Does that answer your question? Q: So it is possible to create and fly UFOs from third density? Well, yes and no. It depends on your definition of a UFO. If you look at the ancient literature on your planet, like the Sumerian texts, you'll see that the ETs were using what is very similar to your present-day rockets. The ETs did not have hyperspace capability. Most of them lived either on the Earth or in space stations very close to Earth on both Mars and Maldek which is now your asteroid belt. For any long voyages they primarily used cryogenics. It wasn't until they transitioned that they began to use interdimensional craft. Generally, you on Earth will follow the same evolutionary pattern. That's a very good question. This leads us to something else that we would like to discuss. Ancient Beliefs and Today's Myths Many of the beliefs that mankind has had in the past several thousand years are directly a result of some of the things that happened in these ancient days. For instance, why is Heaven considered to be in the sky? Heaven has always been thought to be the realm of the gods. If you start thinking about this you will see that it becomes logical to assume that humans began to believe in a Heaven in the sky because the sky was where the ETs came from. Most of you in your present state of development now embrace the idea that God is not a physical person. He is not an old man with a beard. But, yes, these ancient people believed that gods came from the sky and had bodies like theirs. The ETs came from the sky so therefore the sky must be the place of the gods. You all know now the realm of God is everywhere, including within you, but back then they believed that God existed outside of you. Even today, humans struggle with that belief. Humans still believe, even if it is just on the subconscious level, that somehow God is outside of you and can't be inside. Please recognize where that comes from. It is an old, old, ancient belief. And for most, it no longer serves you any more. Now there is one other belief from ancient times that is quite interesting and that we would like to talk about. In ancient times in Sumeria there was something that happened on a regular basis. When the gods were preparing for a space flight they would often have humans help them. Now we said that the gods used a form of cryogenics. This meant that the gods had to go into a deep sleep, and they had to do so before they left the Earth. So what they did was to go into their ships and have humans come and assist them. These gods would go into their cryogenic tombs which look very similar to your current-day coffins, and they would then go into a deep sleep which simulates death. Realize, first of all, that they needed their bodies to get into "Heaven"; They couldn't get into Heaven without that body. Now the humans would also be there to assist the ships that landed with the gods in suspended animation inside. When the ships would land the humans would help these gods to awaken from their deep sleep. What they began to see then was that you had to go to Heaven in your body but you could also come from Heaven in a body as well. So, in a sense, they believed the gods were immortal; somehow this magical realm of Heaven preserved them perfectly. If you look at the civilization of Egypt you see that they took a lot of care in mummifying and preserving their bodies so they could get to Heaven. Now where would they have gotten that belief from other than from seeing the gods go to Heaven in their bodies? So this created thousands of years of mummification ritual, extending even until today. Some peoples take great care in preparing bodies before they are put into a coffin and buried. Some people on a very subconscious level fear the idea of cremation because without a body they have no place to go. Now this isn't conscious but it still is very much a part of your inner, deep belief systems, and these belief systems come from those very ancient days. Q: So many species of ETs came to Earth. Earth legends and poetry speak of the phoenix and in Carlos Castaneda's stories he speaks of eagles who are probably ETs. Were eagles symbolic of any species of ETs? Eagles were a very common symbol for some of the Lyrans. Now it is important to understand that native peoples such as Native Americans also used animal symbology that was not necessarily connected to ETs, although it could be at times. Q: How about the phoenix? This myth did not originate on Earth. Earth people did adopt it but the myth itself came from the Lyran civilization. It was a symbol for them that their empire would never be destroyed. It was a symbol that gave them power, and it was often used in battle as a power symbol meant not to frighten the enemy but to show their own strength. Q: Did similar phenomena take place on other planets in this solar system? In those ancient days there were really only three planets that could support physical life: one was Mars, one was Earth and one was Maldek, which is now your asteroid belt. There were no humans on those planets. They were primarily ET territory. Q: You mean Maldek and Mars? Yes. But in terms of physical life like you, none of the other planets had that type of civilization. Does that answer your question? Q: Some people theorize there are civilizations on Mars. Some people theorize the Earth humans are actually creating civilizations on Mars. Well, that has been something that we haven't wanted to comment on, especially since it is not the subject matter for tonight. That can open up a whole new subject. Simply, we will say that there are some things happening on Mars or in the vicinity of Mars now ... my goodness we have put our foot in our mouth ... that it is very important not to talk about for the time being. Sorry to tease you with that information. It is a challenging road you have chosen, for until your planet embraces the knowledge of your heritage, many things may be misunderstood. There is another land on your planet that is full of mystery: the land of Peru. Peru has been the territory of the Sirians and the Lyrans, but its strongest connection is with the Pleiadians, for they have been active there even up to present day. Peru performs a very important function for your planet. Tonight we have not spoken about Lemuria. That is a another long story. However, what we will say, simply, is that toward the end of the Lemurian civilization, the end of the Atlantean civilization was occurring, as well. They coexisted. The mystics of Lemuria knew that the end was coming. Knowing this, they also knew it was essential to begin preserving a lot of the wisdom and knowledge of Lemuria. They knew it was important that mankind eventually understand its star heritage. So the Lemurians began gathering all of this information and looking for a place to store it safely. The Andes of Peru were part of the Lemurian civilization, and the Lemurians knew that one very good place to secret those records would be in certain areas of the Andes, so they began seeking out natural caverns and power spots in which they could store some of the sacred knowledge. The mystics also began teaching the ancient Inca the mystical wisdom, for they hoped that the Inca would pass on the ancient wisdom throughout time. They also hoped that the Inca would protect the places where the records were kept. The Record Keepers One of the major spots where records are kept is in the area of Machu Picchu. It is quite interesting that when the Spanish came, they infiltrated most of Peru but they never found Machu Picchu. The records that are kept in that vicinity are protected on many levels. Some of the present-day Incan shamans who are alive right now are protecting them. It is a tradition that has been passed on. Also, there are many in spirit form who protect the areas that are holding the records. At times in your history there has been release of information that could finally give you the truth about your heritage. One of these examples is in the Sumerian clay tablets. They were discovered and some were deciphered but unfortunately a lot of the information has been withheld. So those who guard Machu Picchu are very committed to never letting the records out until mankind is ready to accept those truths. Throughout time, it has been mostly the Pleiadians who have come and checked to make sure the records are secure, for the Pleiadians truly await the day when humankind accepts its galactic heritage. But since they cannot directly interfere, they can simply help to guard the records. Pleiadians and the ancient Incans have a very, very strong connection. All over your planet there are storehouses of these ancient records so that your history will never be forgotten. And some of the extraterrestrial groups have been very instrumental in helping to preserve that information. The Native American Indians of North America are also a group that has helped to preserve the information from Lemuria. So have the Aborigines of Australia. The shamans of the Native Americans and Aborigines, even to this day, right now, maintain extraterrestrial connections. This is something that even most members of those tribes are not aware of. It is a sacred tradition passed on from the stars, from Lemuria, to these native peoples. There are many record-keepers on Earth. We have already mentioned some of the belief systems you have today, such as those about Heaven, and how they had extraterrestrial origins in the ancient past. The human race in some ways can be likened to an orphaned child. You have a rich, rich star heritage from many different extraterrestrial groups, but yet you have never been allowed to know your true parents. No one is keeping this information from you, but up until this point you as a people have not had enough desire to find out the truth. Many people on your planet have been secure, instead, in the illusions of their own religions. They may provide comfort; they may provide a sense of spirituality; but they do not provide the truth about your ancient heritage. We are not asking you to abandon your religions, for they are very important to you. However, look deep, deep within yourself and look for the truth of your origins. Seek to discover your true ancient family. In a sense, you will no longer be orphans when you do, and you will feel the joy of being reunited with a very vast family. The extraterrestrials who have guided you throughout history toward this discovery still await your willingness to meet them, but in order to meet them you must first begin to embrace the truth of your past. You are a magnificent people. You have had many, many challenges that you have succeeded in facing. You are strong and you are loved so much by your family. This is the time of change; the time of darkness and ignorance will pass. You are moving toward the Light of your own truth. All of us await you there. Q: I have the feeling that Lyra and Sirius were in fourth density. But did the people who came to Earth and were in third density feel there was a gap between what people of Lyra and Sirius believed and what they believed? In a sense you are accurate and we will describe how. First of all, the journey from the Lyran system and all of its colonized planets took a very, very long time. It took generations. They did not have multidimensional travel. So the extraterrestrials who came here never went back and forth to their own planets. They could not do so in a lifetime. So for all intents and purposes, they lost the connections with their home worlds. And while their own home worlds transformed, they themselves did not necessarily transform with them because they were not there. So many of the Lyran and Sirian home worlds did transform from third to fourth density but these people who were colonizing Earth and the surrounding planets had no connection at all with that transformation. Q: Was it not possible to have communication with the people on the home worlds? At that point in time, which was very ancient, these extraterrestrial beings were not very much more developed than you are now, so most of the population of extraterrestrials who were here did not have any telepathic ability at all. There were some in their societies like there are some in your societies now who could communicate telepathically and through forms of channeling. But for the most part, no, they were not telepathic. Q: Some people believe that Japan was formed from very ancient civilizations. There are many pyramids in Japan even though they built of wood and stone. Also there are stone circles. Please talk about Japan's ancient civilizations in relation to ETs. There were several civilizations that were the primary influence on ancient Japan. One is Pleiadian, which is the main influence. One is Vegan; it is a long story to explain how. And the third is Sirian. Oh my goodness, how do we answer the question without the whole long story? [Germane sighs.] Simply, we will say that there was a lot of extraterrestrial influence by these groups in ancient times in Japan, and some of your very ancient traditions were given to you by these extraterrestrial groups. Some of the ancient traditions of Shintoism came from these groups. My goodness, why don't we leave it at this. If you have a more specific question about this we will answer it but the whole story is too complex to tell you. Q: Do the Nazca lines have a connection to the Lemurian civilization? First of all, our perception is that some of the symbols that were made were symbols of the ET groups that were ruling in that area during Lemuria. This may sound rather odd, but do you know how they brand cows? Often they would draw symbols like that on the land so that any extraterrestrial group flying by would know whose territory it was. This was a tradition that began during the Lemurian era and continued after the flood. Some of the glyphs of the Nazca lines were symbols very predominant during the Lemurian era. We perceive that is what you are sensing. Q: Is the drawing of the Nazca lines a tradition from the times of Lemuria? It is a little bit later. The actual Nazca lines that you see now were not made during the times of Lemuria but came later. They combined the tradition of the Lemurian symbols with other forms of communication. There is very little left on your world in terms of physical things left over from Lemuria. Q: In ancient Japan there were two groups of people, Earth-based gods and Heaven-based gods. What is the difference between these? In Sumeria there were two main gods, Enlil and Enki. Enki was lord of the Earth and he had his own group of gods under him. Enlil ruled the areas of the heavens, and he had his own group of gods associated with him as well. This was a common theme throughout the extraterrestrial interaction with ancient Earth. There were gods assigned to the Earth territory and gods assigned to territory of the heavens which, of course, would be Mars and Maldek. So we perceive that the gods you are referring to had the same type of hierarchy ... Earth-based and Heaven-based. Generally speaking, the gods who were based off the planet were higher in the hierarchy. Q: In terms of categorizing the Earth-based gods and the Heaven-based gods, which were in Japan? Who were the Pleiadians? We cannot put them into a category that would make sense to you without all the background information that was given yesterday. Excuse us. The ETs never had set boundaries such as Pleiadians, Sirians. There were always mixtures in different groups that combined both energies, so the question cannot be answered in a way that would make any sense. The boundaries are not that clear-cut. Q: What is the value of this interesting information? How can we put it to use? Actually, it is our fault that we have not expressed the practical use because we get so excited about some of the drama and details of the information. We want to answer this question in the most clear way possible. Give us a moment. The Human Race Must Confront the Nature of its Planetary Parents. All throughout history, mankind has had nothing but conflict. Of course, conflict is always created within and then projected into the external world. We like to compare the Earth human relationship with ETs to a child's relationship with its parent because it is the same dynamic. If a child is loved and nurtured and valued by a parent, it grows up in a healthy way. If a child is not abandoned, it grows up in a healthy way. If a child is allowed to develop its own identity and is supported by the parents, it grows up in a healthy way. If children do not have these things when they grow into adulthood they create conflict and pain in their lives; it really comes from the fact that they were not nurtured during their developmental years. At the times when these gods were interacting with your planet you were a child species. For the most part, you were not nurtured. Instead, you were controlled. For the most part, you were repeatedly abandoned. You would develop attachments to these ET gods and then they would abandon you. You were not encouraged as a race to develop your own planetary identity. Instead, the gods tried to mold you into what they wanted you to become. Now that the gods are no longer here and you are growing into adulthood, the species itself is experiencing pain and conflict. It doesn't know its parents and therefore it doesn't know itself. The species has never felt nurtured. Instead, it simply copied the dysfunctional pattern of its parents, creating conflict after conflict, trying to find itself. In traditional therapy, people will need to first confront the truth about their parents. They must learn why their parents were the way they were and how that has affected who they have become, and they must see how this parental influence has created the conflicts in their present lives. It is only then that they can be set free to find their true identity. Your planet is still trying to find its identity, for you are not a planetary people. You are, in a sense, a group of lost children. We mean this with no disrespect. As in traditional therapy, as we have just described, the human race itself now needs to confront who its parents were. The human race needs to accept that they have become who they are because of who their parents were. In accepting that they can begin to form their own identity as a species and finally come to peace with themselves. It is then that their conflicts will subside. So, all of the information that we have presented tonight is to allow you to know your parents. This is to encourage you to go proudly and boldly into the future. You can unify yourselves, but first you must know yourselves. Q: Some people get so upset that they act out of emotion. How should we act? How do we make change in our lives when it comes to action? First of all, thought always precedes actions, so it is more important to first change the thought. The details of the information that we have given are not what's important; but those details make you think. As you think, your thought processes change. That is the first step and that is a step of action. Whenever you do not like your reality, you don't need to change the reality, you must first change yourself. That is the first step. And when you take that step you will know naturally the next step to take. You cannot change others. You can only change yourself. We cannot really take more time to discuss this tonight but please know that the idea of changing your thought is very important. It is the first step. One by one, as your thoughts change individually, so do you transform your planet. Q: Tell us about P'taah in regard to the dreamspell. First of all, P'taah's genetics were a combination of Earth and ET genetics, and that is a powerful combination because it is a unification of the Earth and the heavens. The intention of dreamspell is to do the same thing ... unite Heaven with Earth. So that is why you are sensing the similarity in the energies of P'taah and the dreamspell. Q: What is the most meaningful way of using the art of dreamspell? It is different for everyone. It is very important that you use it creatively and adapt it to yourself. That is how it was intended. Does that answer? What we said was very simple so listen to it again and think about it. The last question was somewhat appropriate for our closing remarks. You are all probably wondering how. Dreamspell, in a sense, is something that humankind is now trying to awaken from, meaning that mankind has been asleep and dreaming. You have never awakened to your full heritage. You have never awakened to the truth about your being and thereby solved the conflicts within. But the fact that there are so many of you here tonight with questions about this says that mankind is finally awakening. Be patient with the process, be patient with yourselves. There is no rush. You are unfolding perfectly. You carry the memories within your very cells of all of these ancient civilizations. You also carry the memory of the stars within your cells as well. If you look within you will always find what you are looking for. Much, much love to each one of you. And we bid you a fond goodnight. Authors Details: Lyssa Royal Germane Channeled Lyssa Royal is an internationally known channel and author. Germane considers himself to be a non physical group consciousness associated with the Orion Light - a future integrated version of the galactic family of which we on Earth are a part. He chose the name "Germane" because of it's english definition: "Coming from the same source, or significantly relevant to." There is no connection to St. Germain. |
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C40 User ID: 422745 Portugal 04/26/2008 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lightworker's Handbook Channeling Series [link to www.kryon.com] this way is shorter D.. uright Always depending the channeling... |
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User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Cosmo, your post are to much words for me, i am not going to read that, i hardly ever read copy/paste anymore, how about a poem? Quoting: Cosmo 40 422745u should read in a poem il tell U We alway s learning and thats a Cosmic Poem for U if u open mind and read with atention and pacience... Has We open to be read LWs need a fight against lazyness D jokin today im a babe u see?!! Hi Cosmo, i like poems, i liked to read Rumi and Lao Tse. Now i like to read yours. I ad them to my poem collection called life. Cosmo, i have difficulties you seeing as a babe, i more see you like a crazy macho with a big heart, do not know, maybe i am wrong. lol |
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(OP) User ID: 392401 United States 04/26/2008 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | X/C ~ That was such a beautiful post. I am glad you shared the "miracle walking" with all that come here :). And I am glad you are feeling the joy brought from it as you also strive to make it a continuous thing. It affects all of my body, spiritual, emotionally, mentally, physically... merging together where I can express, feel, think and act very much more in unison. And in love. It's all a miracle of love. Hi Allie, about the decalcifying of the pineal gland, i am also working on this, creating my own dmt, recently i learned from glp 1 spoon of vinegar a day works, as does meditation, receiving energy on the crown of the head, and smoking weed. It is a recent thread somewhere, more tips there. Quoting: DarzaDarza ~ This is very interesting. I did not know about the vinegar. I think I'll stick to the meditation because I feel that whatever is there, is there naturally. That the mind is the most powerful tool to affect change, inwardly. I am growing to understand this more as I use it :). I know you are too. But how is the vinegar working? I have a friend who uses vinegar every once in awhile, just drinking water and a vinegar mix (with something else... maybe lemon) for a week to cleanse her system. It makes her very happy and she is a very, very physically healthy woman :). Personally, I don't like the sensation weed gives me in the least (whether smoked over eaten in/on food). I respect other's choice to use it (I have some friends who truly are better people when they use it - though I will still argue this is because that is what their mind believes ;D)... Just not for myself. I think I glanced over that thread too. Did Sudel start it? And, I would agree that any venture taken is like a creative "child" gifted to the world. I suppose you could say that any thread is like a child, the OP "births" and the posters "raise". That is a very imaginative way of looking at it. A bonding way too. :)!!! AC 353013 ~ That is an adorable kitten video. Reminds me off one of my cats (of 2) who is full grown. She, my cat, has very similar markings too. What a "pick-me-up" that video most certainly is :D!!! O! “You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself,” ~ Alan Alda --- "Conscious breathing of the universe creates a symphony where we receive life like a gift and release it like a present." ~ Akiane O! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 422745 Portugal 04/26/2008 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Cosmo, your post are to much words for me, i am not going to read that, i hardly ever read copy/paste anymore, how about a poem? Quoting: Darzau should read in a poem il tell U We alway s learning and thats a Cosmic Poem for U if u open mind and read with atention and pacience... Has We open to be read LWs need a fight against lazyness D jokin today im a babe u see?!! Hi Cosmo, i like poems, i liked to read Rumi and Lao Tse. Now i like to read yours. I ad them to my poem collection called life. Cosmo, i have difficulties you seeing as a babe, i more see you like a crazy macho with a big heart, do not know, maybe i am wrong. lol Well today its my 40 s Birthday... thats why i said i was a Babe Darza... lol friend everythin is good today at least |
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User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lightworker's Handbook Channeling Series Quoting: C40 422745[link to www.kryon.com] this way is shorter D.. uright Always depending the channeling... Hi Cosmo, here i see you showing inner strenght, not being lazy, picking up the vibe of love, healing and peace of the thread. in a few minutes max...very impressive. |
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(OP) User ID: 392401 United States 04/26/2008 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cosmo ~ I love your post on the "Lyrans", etc., however, like Darza, only for the glancing. I hope some, like yourself, get a large amount of joy from reading it. I just happen to be one who enjoys learning more through stories, poetry and real-life experience when it comes to reading. :)! It is your birthday!?!? HAPPY 40th Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself,” ~ Alan Alda --- "Conscious breathing of the universe creates a symphony where we receive life like a gift and release it like a present." ~ Akiane O! |
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(OP) User ID: 392401 United States 04/26/2008 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello Allie... and your Healling Place... Quoting: C40 422745Always sacred... C40 ~ And a most beautiful hello to you as well. How are you feeling? Life is sacred... O! Edit: Oh, is that you Cosmo? :) “You have to leave the city of your comfort and go into the wilderness of your intuition. What you'll discover will be wonderful. What you'll discover is yourself,” ~ Alan Alda --- "Conscious breathing of the universe creates a symphony where we receive life like a gift and release it like a present." ~ Akiane O! |
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User ID: 378572 Netherlands 04/26/2008 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Cosmo, your post are to much words for me, i am not going to read that, i hardly ever read copy/paste anymore, how about a poem? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 422745u should read in a poem il tell U We alway s learning and thats a Cosmic Poem for U if u open mind and read with atention and pacience... Has We open to be read LWs need a fight against lazyness D jokin today im a babe u see?!! Hi Cosmo, i like poems, i liked to read Rumi and Lao Tse. Now i like to read yours. I ad them to my poem collection called life. Cosmo, i have difficulties you seeing as a babe, i more see you like a crazy macho with a big heart, do not know, maybe i am wrong. lol Well today its my 40 s Birthday... thats why i said i was a Babe Darza... lol friend everythin is good today at least Cosmo, you became 40 today!! another reason for celebration, this thread gets all the blessings. Except the babe LOL the rest i understood, saw the picture you created. |
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