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MrCoolone
 User ID: 33106931 United States01/27/2023 03:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 He has on light tan shorts when he’s hammering on the window and dark navy blue shorts answering the door. Actually, it's the same clothes. Have you not ever looked at a video at night on a camera or one of your own? It will look different. It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 01/27/2023 03:47 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086723 Actually, it's the same clothes. Have you not ever looked at a video at night on a camera or one of your own? It will look different. It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. I don't think it means Paul necessarily knew him, I don't think anyone breaking in would be permitted to get far if there was security in place. What this means for the security of these people when not in DC is frankly alarming. Certainly makes me think that Harry Reid black eye incident is very plausibly not an accident on a treadmill at all... All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Last Edited by Astromut on 01/27/2023 03:52 PM  |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States01/27/2023 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Yep. Night vision cameras often show dark clothes as lighter shades. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85161589  Canada01/27/2023 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086723 Actually, it's the same clothes. Have you not ever looked at a video at night on a camera or one of your own? It will look different. It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. During the 911 call he states he does not and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him. David DePape was right there for the call and in no way tried to correct him. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84361361 United States01/27/2023 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. I don't think it means Paul necessarily knew him, I don't think anyone breaking in would be permitted to get far if there was security in place. What this means for the security of these people when not in DC is frankly alarming. Certainly makes me think that Harry Reid black eye incident is very plausibly not an accident on a treadmill at all... All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Well was Nancy even there?, he said on the telephone to 911 it could be days before she got home. Imo it all looks fake, no attack on camera, police have body cam facing opposite way of front door until its already opened, no blood, and no 2nd police body cam was released. Looks like a bad movie used as a cover for Paul missing if he's in jail or trying to get out of country to avoid jail. He was just in a automobile accident with some guy not long before this supposedly happened. The lack of of their OWN security and the color changing clothes are not as important to me as the police body cam times don't match up and are not even close and they have not released all the police body cams. |
| Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 01/27/2023 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. ... Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. I don't think it means Paul necessarily knew him, I don't think anyone breaking in would be permitted to get far if there was security in place. What this means for the security of these people when not in DC is frankly alarming. Certainly makes me think that Harry Reid black eye incident is very plausibly not an accident on a treadmill at all... All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Well was Nancy even there? Security ought to be there regardless in my opinion. Given that they're this sloppy with the spouse of the person two heartbeats from the presidency, it raises a lot of questions in my mind. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84361361 United States01/27/2023 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 It’s not the same shorts at all. Very light colored shorts as opposed to dark shorts. Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. Dark colored shorts do not go light in a night time black and white video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78261532 Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. During the 911 call he states he does not and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him. David DePape was right there for the call and in no way tried to correct him. Right, but thus guy is an intruder just letting him talk to 911, let's him give address, etc but then waits until the police get there to witness him hammer paul(which the attack was off camera). I call fake...you get to see and hear what they wanted you to see and hear. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84361361 United States01/27/2023 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrCoolone The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. I don't think it means Paul necessarily knew him, I don't think anyone breaking in would be permitted to get far if there was security in place. What this means for the security of these people when not in DC is frankly alarming. Certainly makes me think that Harry Reid black eye incident is very plausibly not an accident on a treadmill at all... All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Well was Nancy even there? Security ought to be there regardless in my opinion. Given that they're this sloppy with the spouse of the person two heartbeats from the presidency, it raises a lot of questions in my mind. Perhaps, or they should have their own security, at least an alarm. But I'm not seeing security for her husband as he would be nothing to the country if Nancy died, he wouldn't step into her place or position. And if he died the result would be the same, nothing would change with her place or position, she'd still be in it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85161589 Canada01/27/2023 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Yes, that's very normal in infrared sensitive security cameras. Dark clothes will typically appear light in near infrared video. The low reflectivity of the dark dyes in the clothing only applies to visible light we can see, not near infrared light. Do your research. ... Yes, they do if that black and white video is using near infrared (which is typically the case with black and white security cameras these days). Look at the difference between how these shirts look in visible vs black/white infrared camera images: [link to blog.ampedsoftware.com (secure)] Some, but not all, dyes will still absorb into the near infrared part of the spectrum and thus why his hoodie can still look dark on the security camera. The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. During the 911 call he states he does not and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him. David DePape was right there for the call and in no way tried to correct him. Right, but thus guy is an intruder just letting him talk to 911, let's him give address, etc but then waits until the police get there to witness him hammer paul(which the attack was off camera). I call fake...you get to see and hear what they wanted you to see and hear. You're trying to understand a person's irrationality who has mental health problems. |
| MrGueermo
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84361361 United States01/27/2023 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrCoolone The most Bizarre aspect of David busting out the window and the Pauly attack is how the 3rd most powerful person in America has no security at their home. Weird. I think Pauly must have knew the assailant. During the 911 call he states he does not and I don't see any reason to disbelieve him. David DePape was right there for the call and in no way tried to correct him. Right, but thus guy is an intruder just letting him talk to 911, let's him give address, etc but then waits until the police get there to witness him hammer paul(which the attack was off camera). I call fake...you get to see and hear what they wanted you to see and hear. You're trying to understand a person's irrationality who has mental health problems. True, the guy used a hammer to bust in a window that was loud as shit, then climbed through a tiny window vs breaking the window next to the door lock and opening that way, still would of made a ton of noise though and they would of had time to call 911 with all that noise alerting them. Just seems like the guy took the long way around and caused the most attention to himself when he could of simply just knocked on the door to enter after Paul opened it, do hammer, then leave...but instead it's this big drawn out story with videos and Paul calling 911, 911 gets there and boom it happens but all off camera...just seems totally fake |
| Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 01/27/2023 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut The lack of security is the astonishing part to me. I don't think it means Paul necessarily knew him, I don't think anyone breaking in would be permitted to get far if there was security in place. What this means for the security of these people when not in DC is frankly alarming. Certainly makes me think that Harry Reid black eye incident is very plausibly not an accident on a treadmill at all... All this nonsense about the tint of his clothes and his shoes in the infrared camera vs the body camera is a distraction and discredits any other elements of the discussion. I have a lot of experience shooting in near infrared, the changing colors between infrared and visible color footage is 100% normal. Well was Nancy even there? Security ought to be there regardless in my opinion. Given that they're this sloppy with the spouse of the person two heartbeats from the presidency, it raises a lot of questions in my mind. Perhaps, or they should have their own security, at least an alarm. But I'm not seeing security for her husband as he would be nothing to the country if Nancy died, he wouldn't step into her place or position. And if he died the result would be the same, nothing would change with her place or position, she'd still be in it. Bear with my Tom Clancy style fantasy for a moment, but if it's possible to break into her home, even if it's when she's not there, in such crude fashion without being stopped until police finally respond, then it's possible to kidnap, threaten, or otherwise exploit family members for leverage in a critical situation (think 24 first season). More worrying to me is the possibility of more professional and stealthy intruders gaining access through social engineering or other methods to plant bugs, steal classified documents that have been brought home when they shouldn't be, etc. Oh hey Mr. Pelosi, your water pipe broke and you need someone to help repair your expensive hardwood floors? Yeah, we'll be there in no time! If the only layer of security are cameras, it's easy to miss a well trained spy and we know certain instances of foreign spies having direct access to congress critters. |
| P.S.
User ID: 79066475 United States01/27/2023 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://imgur.com/a/asN17JUThat's what I was just noticing too. The surveillance footage his shorts look longer - past the knee. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80091581  Poland01/27/2023 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: FeedYourHead Cameras around the house pick up the actual break in....I can't stand the Pelosi's at all but this crap about this being a "lovers spat" needs to go away. This was a vicious home invasion.... The camera capturing the so called break in is almost 3 hours after the police arrived. 5:10 AM when the cops are there at 2:31 AM. So unless we have a full proof explanation on why the time is off the break in video is faked after the fact. Other than the time being off (others have offered up somewhat plausible explanations for). The perp is wearing different clothes in the break in video as opposed To the door answering video. Wasn't there broken glass on the step from the break in, I thought I saw broken glass window by the door and it looked like the glass was broken from the inside but in this video there is no broken glass. When they originally reported this there was broken glass all over the front step but none here in this video. When they originally reported this, the NY Post claimed Paul P was dead from the hammer attack. |
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| Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States01/27/2023 04:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Security ought to be there regardless in my opinion. Given that they're this sloppy with the spouse of the person two heartbeats from the presidency, it raises a lot of questions in my mind. Perhaps, or they should have their own security, at least an alarm. But I'm not seeing security for her husband as he would be nothing to the country if Nancy died, he wouldn't step into her place or position. And if he died the result would be the same, nothing would change with her place or position, she'd still be in it. Bear with my Tom Clancy style fantasy for a moment, but if it's possible to break into her home, even if it's when she's not there, in such crude fashion without being stopped until police finally respond, then it's possible to kidnap, threaten, or otherwise exploit family members for leverage in a critical situation (think 24 first season). More worrying to me is the possibility of more professional and stealthy intruders gaining access through social engineering or other methods to plant bugs, steal classified documents that have been brought home when they shouldn't be, etc. Oh hey Mr. Pelosi, your water pipe broke and you need someone to help repair your expensive hardwood floors? Yeah, we'll be there in no time! If the only layer of security are cameras, it's easy to miss a well trained spy and we know certain instances of foreign spies having direct access to congress critters. There's no need to steal classified documents when the Rats give them away freely. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85123143 United States01/27/2023 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, could it be a reenactment considering the time passage. The star wars studio isn't too far away. I don't trust any factual events by these people. CGI and AI today can synthesize any person, scene, video or stills or audio for any scenario you could possibly imagine in days if not hours after a human scrubs through it for quality. This is why I suggest any photographic or video evidence provided to a court is inadmissible due to technological fraud. |
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User ID: 83834283 United States01/27/2023 04:49 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://imgur.com/a/asN17JUThat's what I was just noticing too. The surveillance footage his shorts look longer - past the knee. Does he have socks on in the outside video? Doesn’t look like it to me Paulie never loses his cocktail lol ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
| P.S.
User ID: 79082810 United States01/27/2023 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://imgur.com/a/asN17JUThat's what I was just noticing too. The surveillance footage his shorts look longer - past the knee. Does he have socks on in the outside video? Doesn’t look like it to me Paulie never loses his cocktail lol Yeah good point, doesn't look like socks on either outside. And seriously, why would he still be holding onto the cup? He doesn't even seem to care that help has arrived. Bizarre all around. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82432465 Poland01/27/2023 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm, could it be a reenactment considering the time passage. The star wars studio isn't too far away. I don't trust any factual events by these people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85123143 CGI and AI today can synthesize any person, scene, video or stills or audio for any scenario you could possibly imagine in days if not hours after a human scrubs through it for quality. This is why I suggest any photographic or video evidence provided to a court is inadmissible due to technological fraud. its a bit weird like deepfake, when the door opens its like his face is posing for a frontal picture what the deep fake would use as a mask CGI |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85155850 01/27/2023 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Security ought to be there regardless in my opinion. Given that they're this sloppy with the spouse of the person two heartbeats from the presidency, it raises a lot of questions in my mind. Perhaps, or they should have their own security, at least an alarm. But I'm not seeing security for her husband as he would be nothing to the country if Nancy died, he wouldn't step into her place or position. And if he died the result would be the same, nothing would change with her place or position, she'd still be in it. Bear with my Tom Clancy style fantasy for a moment, but if it's possible to break into her home, even if it's when she's not there, in such crude fashion without being stopped until police finally respond, then it's possible to kidnap, threaten, or otherwise exploit family members for leverage in a critical situation (think 24 first season). More worrying to me is the possibility of more professional and stealthy intruders gaining access through social engineering or other methods to plant bugs, steal classified documents that have been brought home when they shouldn't be, etc. Oh hey Mr. Pelosi, your water pipe broke and you need someone to help repair your expensive hardwood floors? Yeah, we'll be there in no time! If the only layer of security are cameras, it's easy to miss a well trained spy and we know certain instances of foreign spies having direct access to congress critters. I was thinking the same- but it's not like there are many Chinese people living in San Francisco or anything...  |
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