High school experiment to find the distance to the moon. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45504332 United States 08/16/2022 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posting in a shill thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79163881 OP hasn't done the experiment himself and nobody here has the resources to do it either. But yet OP says it's "basic" as if anybody can just casually do it on a whim. Retarded dipshits. It's a high school experiment that no high schooler and very few if any high schools have the equipment to perform. This thread is probably boxed up so no one can see it anyways but whatever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45504332 United States 08/16/2022 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the sunset being visible for a longer period of time from higher altitudes, this can be explained by the difference in the density of the atmosphere at different altitudes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At lower elevations the air is more dense and will therefore obstruct light at a shorter distance than it would at a higher elevation. There are not many globe arguments or evidences that do not have other possible explanations than the ones that are given by the scientific establishment. lol, total and utter bullshit - you are a dismal pathetic failure at understanding what you are trying to talk about - ROFL That is a valid point, I will take that into consideration. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The curvature in that picture is visible and measurable because the basketball is a sphere. If the photographer zoomed in a little more the horizon would disappear altogether and the ball would not even be visible. That is a disingenuous photo that only serves to convince those who are eager to satisfy their confirmation bias. Notice that the camera is pointed down towards the ball as if it were a picture taken from the sky rather than a straight forward shot from a 90 degree angle as it would be if a tiny person was standing on top of the ball. This was done for a reason. Maybe he tried it from a more human perspective but it did not yield the results that he desired? Curvature is non existent when a picture is taken looking straight down at a 90 degree angle of a spherical object. All that is visible from that perspective is a circle. The steeper the angle of the shot, the less curvature is visible. The angle and zoom were set just the way they are in order to minimize any visible curvature but none the less it is still visible and it is still there. I would expect nothing less from a Redditor. Also notice how quickly the horizon drops off and how very little of the ball you can see in the distance. If I zoom my camera on the ocean the horizon doesn't drop off and disappear, I simply see more flat water. I see maybe 4 rows of dots on the ball. What does that equate to in MMs? I don't have a ball handy to measure but I would guess 3 or 4 MMs. Where is the rest of the ball? You can't see it because it drops off because it is a sphere. https://imgur.com/a/dQ9pjdl https://imgur.com/a/Jq4KDym https://imgur.com/a/YBQl9Qy https://imgur.com/a/tn7zrbb |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed there has been no comment on my statements about light rays and how they are affected by different kinds of lenses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45504332 https://imgur.com/a/m7QNdOP https://imgur.com/a/17VwtRD https://imgur.com/a/xt4JmZH https://imgur.com/a/Eil96I6 https://imgur.com/a/X3rvRvt |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posting in a shill thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79163881 OP hasn't done the experiment himself and nobody here has the resources to do it either. But yet OP says it's "basic" as if anybody can just casually do it on a whim. Retarded dipshits. https://imgur.com/a/DEJXMkf |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. This is why I posted this experiment that has been verified by 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators. Also, I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 12 and seen the rotation of the sun, Mars, Jupiter etc. Recently, I looked up the fly over of the International Space Station and saw it for myself. Anybody with an telescope from Walmart can do this. Go to this site and type in your zip code and pick a fly over time. Go out and see it for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] 1000s of amateur astronomers have taken pictures like this. https://imgur.com/kQH5K4j Once you establish the existence of orbiting satellites, Flat Earth is disproved. Just because there's things flying in the sky doesn't mean the earth is a globe. My god you people are the stupidest fucking worthless sacks of shit imaginable. https://imgur.com/a/jws5jMt |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. You can't just cherry pick your expert or make chit up or say that someone's wrong, or 99.9% of information is against a spherical earth without backing it up. You have to actually make and support points. You don't have high ground to demand information. Please take some time to find some specific evidence, rather than spewing chit from a script of cult lies, when the evidence shows you to be incorrect. I didn't cherry pick anything. I am simply stating scientific facts that do not match up with the claims of the scientific establishment. I don't have any experts, I am the expert. I don't have a leader, I am my own leader. I don't post memes and copy paste from websites. I explain everything in my own words based upon my own provable knowledge. I am not a flat earther, if there is such a thing as that. I did not demand information, I supplied information. I don't claim any high ground, I am stating facts that are easily verifiable without needing thousand of dollars worth of special equipment or having to rely on government sources or photographs taken by strangers that are posted on the web. I already presented the evidence, known and easily verifiable science is what I am talking about. If you don't understand how lenses work then look it up. No one is going to disagree with me about how concave and convex lenses affect light. This really is a high school experiment. Just go and buy a $5 magnifying glass and go and burn some grass with the convex lens that is in it that causes the rays of the sun to converge and create a hot spot. https://imgur.com/a/m7kooWs https://imgur.com/a/zwNrAXC |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your argument is that everything else is wrong, yet you bring nothing new to the table. Your argument isn’t even an argument, just a statement with no thought behind it. Try to get an education and read a book. Flat Earthtards only concerns are to only spew from a script of lies, other's peoples work of lies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80355386 United States 08/16/2022 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another simple experiment is triangulation or parallax. The moon diameter or distance can easily be found by simultaneously observing from multiple locations of a known distance. The further the distance the more accurate the calculation. Quoting: MrCoolone [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] anytime you want to send a high altitude balloon up to see the footage first hand your welcome to join "Mrcoolone". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45831997 "No thanks, I do not want to be part of any of the self proclaimed army of amateur flat earther's scientists. I will allow the people who have the expertise, equipment and education who study such things their entire lives." said by Mrcoolone. lol. Talk about being a hypocrit. At least I know all you are is a "copy and paster". Congrats for measuring the height of the firmament btw. Although that information has been out there for a while. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posting in a shill thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79163881 OP hasn't done the experiment himself and nobody here has the resources to do it either. But yet OP says it's "basic" as if anybody can just casually do it on a whim. Retarded dipshits. It's a high school experiment that no high schooler and very few if any high schools have the equipment to perform. This thread is probably boxed up so no one can see it anyways but whatever. There are plenty of experiments to prove the earth is a sphere which the majority of middle school students can accomplish, yet flat earthtards do not have the common scence. https://imgur.com/a/aBkaAfo https://imgur.com/a/eiaUWPc https://imgur.com/a/r2mCLPi https://imgur.com/a/Z9E2NA0 |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another simple experiment is triangulation or parallax. The moon diameter or distance can easily be found by simultaneously observing from multiple locations of a known distance. The further the distance the more accurate the calculation. Quoting: MrCoolone https://imgur.com/a/ab6axbn anytime you want to send a high altitude balloon up to see the footage first hand your welcome to join "Mrcoolone". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45831997 "No thanks, I do not want to be part of any of the self proclaimed army of amateur flat earther's scientists. I will allow the people who have the expertise, equipment and education who study such things their entire lives." said by Mrcoolone. lol. Talk about being a hypocrit. At least I know all you are is a "copy and paster". Congrats for measuring the height of the firmament btw. Although that information has been out there for a while. https://imgur.com/a/OAgGdkD https://imgur.com/a/I9TZNmb https://imgur.com/a/qOFqvPw https://imgur.com/a/2v7BfOg https://imgur.com/a/t3kHcw5 |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The diameter of the moon is 2,159.2 miles. https://imgur.com/a/KjUnVWJ |
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MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allegedly there is dust and sand on the moon's surface. 1. Have you ever heard of bouncing waves from sand ??? - Try! Go to your next sea shore and bounce !!! 2. With Haarp they bounce waves off the ionosphere. Ergo : Nothing goes beyond that. . https://imgur.com/a/0QpxBC2 I believe you're correct in stating that this is to complicated for a flat earthtard to figure out. There are plenty of other experiments to prove the earth is a sphere which the majority of middle school students can accomplish, but the majority of flat earthtards can not due to the lack of common scene. https://imgur.com/a/KEIzXC3 https://imgur.com/a/JjhadiJ https://imgur.com/a/QdAsn9O |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80355386 United States 08/16/2022 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already offered mrcoolone the opportunity to join me, send a high altitude balloon up to 130 thousand feet with a standard lens. Then we look at the footage after. Of course he doesnt want to because it takes a giant dump on every single video where they show you a curve at 70k feet saying "wow look at the curve" Especially the ones from an airplane. Because that means even though theyre showing you a curve with their fish eye lens, what their seeing with their own 2 eyes is flat. So they are just blatantly lying about what they see. Good luck explaining away the reason why theyre lying to your face. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/16/2022 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already offered mrcoolone the opportunity to join me, send a high altitude balloon up to 130 thousand feet with a standard lens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80355386 Then we look at the footage after. Of course he doesnt want to because it takes a giant dump on every single video where they show you a curve at 70k feet saying "wow look at the curve" Especially the ones from an airplane. Because that means even though theyre showing you a curve with their fish eye lens, what their seeing with their own 2 eyes is flat. So they are just blatantly lying about what they see. Good luck explaining away the reason why theyre lying to your face. Why? I could analyzed over two dozen of high-altitude balloon footages on YouTube, and I would be able to see the curvature, every single time, just like your video. https://imgur.com/a/830DFkx FE VIDSimilar to all the other Flat earthtards perpetrated by ignorant people who have ulterior personal motives and agendas. Who just continually spews from the same old script of lies when proven incorrect. Also, why would I subject myself to a demonstration of stupidity, by a self proclaimed amateur flat earther's scientist that uses deception and other parlor tricks. I have already seen the evidence. Maybe you need to experiment on the sundial, or the Eratosthenes experiment similar to the sundial or explaining Polaris's angle. https://imgur.com/a/0ko3wNV SUNDIALhttps://imgur.com/a/uKUuuAb ERATOSTHENEShttps://imgur.com/a/yXpeQTl POLARIS ANGLEUntil you accomplish this, I do not want to be part of any of a self proclaimed amateur flat earther's scientist. I will allow the people who have the expertise, instruments, camera equipment and education who study such things their entire lives. |
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mondali2
User ID: 72087046 Thailand 08/17/2022 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all you have to do is ask a flat earther to show you how a lunar eclipse on a flat earth is even possible Quoting: mondali2 Ie the earth passing between the sun and the moon. They can't and won't even attempt to do it prove me wrong. I'll wait well I am waiting. Show me a model of the flat earth that works with the moon being eclipsed by the earth. mondali2 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80141479 United States 08/18/2022 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrCoolone Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. Why would you expect a drop side to side? Do you see farther to the sides than you do straight ahead? The horizon is a circle around you. Look at a basketball, does it slope down on the sides? No matter what angle you look at it from you will see a high spot in the middle and it will slope downward on either side. and your scale compared to a basketball would put you hundreds of miles up. At low altitudes your horizon is a circle around you. You don't see farther to the sides than you do straight ahead. |