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(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another simple experiment is triangulation or parallax. The moon diameter or distance can easily be found by simultaneously observing from multiple locations of a known distance. The further the distance the more accurate the calculation. Quoting: MrCoolone https://imgur.com/a/ab6axbn Things like this make Flat Earthers heads...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83898267 United States 08/14/2022 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would blow a fuse over the math alone, but I'm hoping the fact it's a high school experiment might penetrate that mental ice wall of FE thinking. I'm firmly of the opinion at this point that 95% of FE types are just trolling for reactions. There might be a few who are genuinely suckered in and don't know any better, but I think that number is likely very, very small. |
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User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would blow a fuse over the math alone, but I'm hoping the fact it's a high school experiment might penetrate that mental ice wall of FE thinking. I'm firmly of the opinion at this point that 95% of FE types are just trolling for reactions. There might be a few who are genuinely suckered in and don't know any better, but I think that number is likely very, very small. Flat Earthtards can tell they are a little embarrassed about that because they didn't seek to find the truth, they sought to prove their bias, every time they have failed. https://imgur.com/a/IAUOYEI |
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(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would blow a fuse over the math alone, but I'm hoping the fact it's a high school experiment might penetrate that mental ice wall of FE thinking. I'm firmly of the opinion at this point that 95% of FE types are just trolling for reactions. There might be a few who are genuinely suckered in and don't know any better, but I think that number is likely very, very small. In 2016 as the election approached there were an increasing frequency of pro-FE threads. Happened again in 2018 and 2020. Clearly an attempt to discredit this site an a source of alt info. However, there is a surprising growth in the FES as the US educational standards have plummeted over the past several decades. Showing a high school experiment and 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators verify the moon's distance might give FES members pause for thought and at minimum counter those dis-info tactics. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 08/14/2022 04:33 PM |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another simple experiment is triangulation or parallax. The moon diameter or distance can easily be found by simultaneously observing from multiple locations of a known distance. The further the distance the more accurate the calculation. Quoting: MrCoolone https://imgur.com/a/ab6axbn Things like this make Flat Earthers heads...... They seem to be angered, and they take their anger out on those of us who are the more educated. |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another simple experiment is triangulation or parallax. The moon diameter or distance can easily be found by simultaneously observing from multiple locations of a known distance. The further the distance the more accurate the calculation. Quoting: MrCoolone https://imgur.com/a/ab6axbn Things like this make Flat Earthers heads...... They seem to be angered, and they take their anger out on those of us who are the more educated. Yep, I've gotten lots of red karma butt hurt when posting threads just like this. Sad. |
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(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you note the delay time average of 2.5 seconds and know light travels at 186,000 miles per second, then ..... 2.5 X 186,000 = 465,000 miles round trip. 465,000 / 2 = 232,500 miles to the moon. Again, 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators have done this. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would blow a fuse over the math alone, but I'm hoping the fact it's a high school experiment might penetrate that mental ice wall of FE thinking. I'm firmly of the opinion at this point that 95% of FE types are just trolling for reactions. There might be a few who are genuinely suckered in and don't know any better, but I think that number is likely very, very small. In 2016 as the election approached there were an increasing frequency of pro-FE threads. Happened again in 2018 and 2020. Clearly an attempt to discredit this site an a source of alt info. However, there is a surprising growth in the FES as the US educational standards have plummeted over the past several decades. Showing a high school experiment and 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators verify the moon's distance might give FES members pause for thought and at minimum counter those dis-info tactics. I've noticed the same, it is as if it is the same person, or many are setting in the same room. |
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MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok but when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82553176 Its a lot further away when it's way above the horizon but really close when it's at the horizon. So when are they calculating distance? Just asking for a friend really. https://imgur.com/a/PXMKzFL |
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(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok but when? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82553176 Its a lot further away when it's way above the horizon but really close when it's at the horizon. So when are they calculating distance? Just asking for a friend really. When the moon is at it's highest point in the sky. The perfect time would be a full moon at midnight on June 21st and as far south as you get in the US. However, any place or time of year when the moon reaches it's peak height of the day will return a value 200k-300k mile distance. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 08/14/2022 05:45 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. |
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User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. https://imgur.com/a/QpnJKAI 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. https://imgur.com/a/pT4blu9 https://imgur.com/a/C6aNU59 https://imgur.com/a/eqipbOI |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the sunset being visible for a longer period of time from higher altitudes, this can be explained by the difference in the density of the atmosphere at different altitudes. At lower elevations the air is more dense and will therefore obstruct light at a shorter distance than it would at a higher elevation. There are not many globe arguments or evidences that do not have other possible explanations than the ones that are given by the scientific establishment. |
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User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. https://imgur.com/a/QpnJKAI 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. https://imgur.com/a/pT4blu9 https://imgur.com/a/C6aNU59 https://imgur.com/a/eqipbOI Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. https://imgur.com/a/ntoECx2 https://imgur.com/a/1lgcQgv https://imgur.com/a/g6n6FrX |