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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80682726 United States 08/14/2022 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! Insults instead of evidence, typical FE tactic. Why don't you show some integrity and produce evidence that the 1000s of HAM radio operators are wrong that there is an average 2.5 second delay for a EME transmission. Is that beyond your comprehension level? |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! https://imgur.com/a/ScFqwR0 |
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MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! Insults instead of evidence, typical FE tactic. Why don't you show some integrity and produce evidence that the 1000s of HAM radio operators are wrong that there is an average 2.5 second delay for a EME transmission. Is that beyond your comprehension level? We are waiting on your fictitious evidence tard. If you can't meet that burden, then your claim is dismissed as the bullchit that it is, and you have no basis to claim that bullchit whitch magically prove Earth is flat. Last Edited by MrCoolone on 08/14/2022 07:26 PM |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! Insults instead of evidence, typical FE tactic. Why don't you show some integrity and produce evidence that the 1000s of HAM radio operators are wrong that there is an average 2.5 second delay for a EME transmission. Is that beyond your comprehension level? Looks like the handicapped flatearth tards are definitely going to have to returned to their flat space! |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrCoolone The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! Insults instead of evidence, typical FE tactic. Why don't you show some integrity and produce evidence that the 1000s of HAM radio operators are wrong that there is an average 2.5 second delay for a EME transmission. Is that beyond your comprehension level? Looks like the handicapped flatearth tards are definitely going to have to returned to their flat space! Logical debate is not their forte. But getting $3.50 a post doesn't exactly attract the cream of the crop. Now with Brandon in charge, if I was them I'd demand at least $4.50. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] When I can get similar results with my own equipment I will enter it in as evidence. Until then I must assume that these photos are just as reliable as any other photon on the net. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. You can't just cherry pick your expert or make chit up or say that someone's wrong, or 99.9% of information is against a spherical earth without backing it up. You have to actually make and support points. You don't have high ground to demand information. Please take some time to find some specific evidence, rather than spewing chit from a script of cult lies, when the evidence shows you to be incorrect. https://imgur.com/a/Zsa1E19 |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. This is why I posted this experiment that has been verified by 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators. Also, I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 12 and seen the rotation of the sun, Mars, Jupiter etc. Recently, I looked up the fly over of the International Space Station and saw it for myself. Anybody with an telescope from Walmart can do this. Go to this site and type in your zip code and pick a fly over time. Go out and see it for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] 1000s of amateur astronomers have taken pictures like this. https://imgur.com/kQH5K4j Once you establish the existence of orbiting satellites, Flat Earth is disproved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrCoolone Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] When I can get similar results with my own equipment I will enter it in as evidence. Until then I must assume that these photos are just as reliable as any other photon on the net. Another problem I have with this. If the picture of the power lines is not doctored then isn't it possible that refraction from the atmosphere is causing the apparent curvature? You can see the humidity in the air. What I have noticed is that the globe side of the argument only claims that refraction is present when it supports their claims but refraction is ignored/taken out of the equation when it doesn't support their claims. You can't have it both ways, not if you are honest about it. |
Remedial_Rebel
(OP) User ID: 78258400 United States 08/14/2022 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another problem I have with this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 If the picture of the power lines is not doctored then isn't it possible that refraction from the atmosphere is causing the apparent curvature? You can see the humidity in the air. What I have noticed is that the globe side of the argument only claims that refraction is present when it supports their claims but refraction is ignored/taken out of the equation when it doesn't support their claims. You can't have it both ways, not if you are honest about it. If you don't want to make the investment or find a HAM radio operator who can verify the experiment I posted, then read my above post about the ISS. You need a telescope capable of 120x which you can buy at Walmart. Go see the ISS for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] |
MrCoolone
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. This is why I posted this experiment that has been verified by 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators. Also, I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 12 and seen the rotation of the sun, Mars, Jupiter etc. Recently, I looked up the fly over of the International Space Station and saw it for myself. Anybody with an telescope from Walmart can do this. Go to this site and type in your zip code and pick a fly over time. Go out and see it for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] 1000s of amateur astronomers have taken pictures like this. [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] Once you establish the existence of orbiting satellites, Flat Earth is disproved. I've seen the heavenly bodies through my telescope and they are a sight to behold but they do not prove anything about the nature of the earth. The claim that thousands of radio operators have measured and reported thing is no proof of anything either. I don't know any of them and I don't who collects and posts the stats. It is just another unsubstantiated claim. The visibility of what is claimed to be an orbiting space station only proves that something is up there, it is no proof of what exactly it is. There is so much obvious fakery in the ISS videos I really can't believe that they are still making them. It is as if they are mocking their believers and sending a message to the skeptics. The message is: we are lying and fooling the masses and the masses are stupid and brainwashed that there is nothing that you can do about it. It seems that that is an accurate assessment for the most part. No offense intended. I used to scoff at the idea of a flat earth too and I loved studying science and astronomy. I still love studying science and astronomy but I am now doing so with new eyes and a more skeptical mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84015231 United States 08/14/2022 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another problem I have with this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 If the picture of the power lines is not doctored then isn't it possible that refraction from the atmosphere is causing the apparent curvature? You can see the humidity in the air. What I have noticed is that the globe side of the argument only claims that refraction is present when it supports their claims but refraction is ignored/taken out of the equation when it doesn't support their claims. You can't have it both ways, not if you are honest about it. If you don't want to make the investment or find a HAM radio operator who can verify the experiment I posted, then read my above post about the ISS. You need a telescope capable of 120x which you can buy at Walmart. Go see the ISS for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] You do not even realize that you are only proving my points and assessments to be accurate do you? I appreciate the irony. |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. This is why I posted this experiment that has been verified by 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators. Also, I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 12 and seen the rotation of the sun, Mars, Jupiter etc. Recently, I looked up the fly over of the International Space Station and saw it for myself. Anybody with an telescope from Walmart can do this. Go to this site and type in your zip code and pick a fly over time. Go out and see it for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] 1000s of amateur astronomers have taken pictures like this. https://imgur.com/kQH5K4j Once you establish the existence of orbiting satellites, Flat Earth is disproved. I've seen the heavenly bodies through my telescope and they are a sight to behold but they do not prove anything about the nature of the earth. The claim that thousands of radio operators have measured and reported thing is no proof of anything either. I don't know any of them and I don't who collects and posts the stats. It is just another unsubstantiated claim. The visibility of what is claimed to be an orbiting space station only proves that something is up there, it is no proof of what exactly it is. There is so much obvious fakery in the ISS videos I really can't believe that they are still making them. It is as if they are mocking their believers and sending a message to the skeptics. The message is: we are lying and fooling the masses and the masses are stupid and brainwashed that there is nothing that you can do about it. It seems that that is an accurate assessment for the most part. No offense intended. I used to scoff at the idea of a flat earth too and I loved studying science and astronomy. I still love studying science and astronomy but I am now doing so with new eyes and a more skeptical mind. I would suggest, since you do have a telescope, you can start by observing Jupiter's satellites, Io, Europa, Ganymede, & Callisto, Jupiter's moons. Then gradually build up and go after ISS, then you can show it to all the other asshole flat earthtard buddies, and have all you hard work dismissed. Informations below; https://imgur.com/a/6aij2xV GALILEAN MOONS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81977857 Australia 08/14/2022 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the sunset being visible for a longer period of time from higher altitudes, this can be explained by the difference in the density of the atmosphere at different altitudes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At lower elevations the air is more dense and will therefore obstruct light at a shorter distance than it would at a higher elevation. There are not many globe arguments or evidences that do not have other possible explanations than the ones that are given by the scientific establishment. lol, total and utter bullshit - you are a dismal pathetic failure at understanding what you are trying to talk about - ROFL |
MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States 08/14/2022 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As far as the sunset being visible for a longer period of time from higher altitudes, this can be explained by the difference in the density of the atmosphere at different altitudes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At lower elevations the air is more dense and will therefore obstruct light at a shorter distance than it would at a higher elevation. There are not many globe arguments or evidences that do not have other possible explanations than the ones that are given by the scientific establishment. lol, total and utter bullshit - you are a dismal pathetic failure at understanding what you are trying to talk about - ROFL https://imgur.com/a/Pd1rdq3 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80141479 United States 08/15/2022 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. Why would you expect a drop side to side? Do you see farther to the sides than you do straight ahead? The horizon is a circle around you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80141479 United States 08/15/2022 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The distance moon to earth 238,855 miles. The distance moon to sun is 92,955,828 miles BWAHAHA...suuure they are... or you could just go outside your little 'cave of projections' and look up at the sky and see for yourself that those two objects are in the sky at the same time, are the same size and you expect someone who actually has a brain and can use it properly to really believe that one is SUPPOSEDLY 93 MILLION miles away and the other 239 THOUSAND miles away? The two things the same size and opposite of each other? Lollololololololol. So you REALLY think we're bwahaha...spinning around like a top at 1000miles AN HOUR while also hurtling through space at 66,6 ( ha ok) miles an HOUR while also traveling 1.2 million miles a day? All while never getting a different view of stars or sky or ever even seeing more of the moon than the way it 'phases'. It's like you didn't even go to the planetarium in middle school or something. Or even spun around as a child till you got dizzy which was like 5 times and certainly not at 1000 miles an hour. Or road in a car and got car sick from looking out the window and motion going by a certain way. God, you're stupid and extremely brain washed...whats pathetic is that you people are so embarrassingly wrong and can be proven so by the innate 'intellect' of an 8 yr old. Wake up, moron! Got anything besides argument from incredulity? I'm betting no. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45504332 United States 08/15/2022 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be an interesting experiment if I had the equipment or knew someone who did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 At this point in my life I don't believe anything that I cannot confirm for myself, including the numbers and "math" regarding astrophysics and the nature of the earth. So far I cannot verify that the earth is a globe, I can verify that the predicted curvature over a 10 mile wide stretch of water on the horizon is non existent. Does anyone have the necessary equipment in order to do this experiment? I would really like to see the results so I can analyze the data. Forgive me for not simply and blindly accepting Wikipedia and other government sponsored sources at face value. What if a ham radio operator reported different numbers than what are expected? Would I ever hear about it? Probably not. Why are people so offended by people who are questioning the narrative? Eric Dugay is clearly a disinfo agent but that doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. Eric is the figurative bathwater and the legitimate scientists and other researchers who's work he stole and then made a mockery of represent the figurative baby. Rent or barrow a Theodolite from a marine surveyor. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] 3 Additional Easy Method of determining if the Earth is a Sphere. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Just as with the allegedly simple high school experiment what you are suggesting requires more than what is easily available to the average person. I have a good camera with a good zoom. Whether zoomed in or not I cannot detect the predicted curvature or any curvature at all. This is problematic to say the least. Over a 10 mile wide stretch there should be an approximate drop of 32 ft on either side of the center, it would be visible with the naked eye and measurable on a monitor, it is not. I have seen so many fake and misrepresented photos such as the ones in your links that it only makes me more skeptical. Why would you expect a drop side to side? Do you see farther to the sides than you do straight ahead? The horizon is a circle around you. Look at a basketball, does it slope down on the sides? No matter what angle you look at it from you will see a high spot in the middle and it will slope downward on either side. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45504332 United States 08/16/2022 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Quoting: MrCoolone The curvature in that picture is visible and measurable because the basketball is a sphere. If the photographer zoomed in a little more the horizon would disappear altogether and the ball would not even be visible. That is a disingenuous photo that only serves to convince those who are eager to satisfy their confirmation bias. Notice that the camera is pointed down towards the ball as if it were a picture taken from the sky rather than a straight forward shot from a 90 degree angle as it would be if a tiny person was standing on top of the ball. This was done for a reason. Maybe he tried it from a more human perspective but it did not yield the results that he desired? Curvature is non existent when a picture is taken looking straight down at a 90 degree angle of a spherical object. All that is visible from that perspective is a circle. The steeper the angle of the shot, the less curvature is visible. The angle and zoom were set just the way they are in order to minimize any visible curvature but none the less it is still visible and it is still there. I would expect nothing less from a Redditor. Also notice how quickly the horizon drops off and how very little of the ball you can see in the distance. If I zoom my camera on the ocean the horizon doesn't drop off and disappear, I simply see more flat water. I see maybe 4 rows of dots on the ball. What does that equate to in MMs? I don't have a ball handy to measure but I would guess 3 or 4 MMs. Where is the rest of the ball? You can't see it because it drops off because it is a sphere. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79163881 Netherlands 08/16/2022 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. This is why I posted this experiment that has been verified by 1000s of amateur HAM radio operators. Also, I've been an amateur astronomer since I was 12 and seen the rotation of the sun, Mars, Jupiter etc. Recently, I looked up the fly over of the International Space Station and saw it for myself. Anybody with an telescope from Walmart can do this. Go to this site and type in your zip code and pick a fly over time. Go out and see it for yourself. [link to spotthestation.nasa.gov (secure)] 1000s of amateur astronomers have taken pictures like this. [imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] Once you establish the existence of orbiting satellites, Flat Earth is disproved. Just because there's things flying in the sky doesn't mean the earth is a globe. My god you people are the stupidest fucking worthless sacks of shit imaginable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45504332 United States 08/16/2022 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every thread is just an insult match, this is why I don't usually bother with this discussion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84015231 There is very rarely and verifiable evidence presented, only unprovable claims coming from both sides. Look at the way the rays from the sun diverge in all directions away from the sun. If the earth were a globe the atmosphere would create a convex lens which would cause the rays to appear to converge towards each other rather than the divergence away from each other as is observed. A concave lens or no lens at all would cause the rays to diverge, a convex lens such as the atmosphere of a globe would cause the rays to converge. We do not and cannot observe the convergence of sun rays as would be expected if the light is passing through the convex lens on the globe model. These are known and proven scientific principles that adhere to the rigid scientific method and are in direct conflict with what we are told about the nature of our system. You can't just cherry pick your expert or make chit up or say that someone's wrong, or 99.9% of information is against a spherical earth without backing it up. You have to actually make and support points. You don't have high ground to demand information. Please take some time to find some specific evidence, rather than spewing chit from a script of cult lies, when the evidence shows you to be incorrect. [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] I didn't cherry pick anything. I am simply stating scientific facts that do not match up with the claims of the scientific establishment. I don't have any experts, I am the expert. I don't have a leader, I am my own leader. I don't post memes and copy paste from websites. I explain everything in my own words based upon my own provable knowledge. I am not a flat earther, if there is such a thing as that. I did not demand information, I supplied information. I don't claim any high ground, I am stating facts that are easily verifiable without needing thousand of dollars worth of special equipment or having to rely on government sources or photographs taken by strangers that are posted on the web. I already presented the evidence, known and easily verifiable science is what I am talking about. If you don't understand how lenses work then look it up. No one is going to disagree with me about how concave and convex lenses affect light. This really is a high school experiment. Just go and buy a $5 magnifying glass and go and burn some grass with the convex lens that is in it that causes the rays of the sun to converge and create a hot spot. |