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The Rapture, Death, and Destruction.

 
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2 thess 2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ(A) and our being gathered to him,(B) we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter(C)—asserting that the day of the Lord(D) has already come.(E) 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you(F) in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion(G) occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed,(H) the man doomed to destruction.

This scripture clearly says the rapture doesn’t happen until after the falling away and the revealing of the man of sin. As these have not yet happened, how can the rapture be imminent, or happening on the 15th June?
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2 thess 2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ(A) and our being gathered to him,(B) we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter(C)—asserting that the day of the Lord(D) has already come.(E) 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you(F) in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion(G) occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed,(H) the man doomed to destruction.

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german7 The Day of the Lord, and the Rapture are two different events. In the former, the Lord returns to the earth for the second time. In the latter, He meets us in the clouds. You are mixing apples and oranges.

Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

Furthermore, you have an unhealthy obsession as this verse from Amos makes clear.
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This video is predicting June 15,2022:


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Since it now has been posted on GLP, it won’t happen. That’s how it works around here.
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This video is predicting June 15,2022:


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Since it now has been posted on GLP, it won’t happen. That’s how it works around here.
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mexgal As they say in Mexico, "things happen when they happen."
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wisevirgins1bridec The wise Christian is one who believes what the Bible says and who has put all of their trust in the Lord for their salvation. We all fail everyday, but we pick ourselves up and keep on going because we know that that wonderful day is fast approaching.
The foolish Christian is one who listens to lying preachers, is distracted by the cares of this world, and was likely never more than a lukewarm believer in the first place.

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.

Mat 25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.


Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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2 thess 2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ(A) and our being gathered to him,(B) we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter(C)—asserting that the day of the Lord(D) has already come.(E) 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you(F) in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion(G) occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed,(H) the man doomed to destruction.

This scripture clearly says the rapture doesn’t happen until after the falling away and the revealing of the man of sin. As these have not yet happened, how can the rapture be imminent, or happening on the 15th June?
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The falling away IS the rapture ... The word departure is used in the 1599 Geneva bible ...

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.

4 Which is an adversary, and exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
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Imminent
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watergirls Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
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:bridec: Many Bible believing Christians including myself think that we are in :bridea:

the lull before the storm. The Age of Grace is nearly over, and The Time of Jacob's Troubles is about to begin. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. We have been clearly told that the Rapture will happen when it happens and those who are not right with the Lord, for whatever reason, will be left behind.

This is the price that we must pay for forgetting the Lord, both individually and as nations/societies. Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Because of the great numbers of people who will be going there. One day very soon all those who will miss the Rapture will suddenly realize that the Lord's anger is a very real thing. Those of you who are thinking that they will get to Heaven by becoming Rapture Saints should also remember that there is no guarantee, Many millions will lose their lives in an instant from nuclear bombs and other means of mass death, and that could include you.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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No, the Rapture cannot happen at any moment, that is a lie!
Even the pre tribulation (Pre, Pre Trib Rapture type) events have not occurred yet. So there is no chance of a "pre Trib" Rapture.
(The Pre Trib Rapture doctrine is not supported by the Bible anyway. Which makes it even more impossible to happen; "at any moment".)

People who do not know God's Word, yet think they will go up in the Rapture, are in for a very rude awakening.....
Those teaching such lies will be held even more accountable...
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According to the Bible, it will happen when people least expect it, on a normal day like today, so yes, it can happen 'at any moment.'

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
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Imminent
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2000+ years but NOW its imminent? Do tell. Myths thrive in the mind.
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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Luke 21:36
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36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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Luke 21:36
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36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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Versions of gods word? Sweet. Pick your version.
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Imminent
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2000+ years but NOW its imminent? Do tell. Myths thrive in the mind.
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Next.

Nothing prophetically before.
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Luke 21:36
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36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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Versions of gods word? Sweet. Pick your version.
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Do you speak Greek or Hebeer?
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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How do you know its correct? Other than you believe it to be so, so what? A Muslim could tell me its in the Koran. They believe its gods word. Other than the odd "faith" invocation, all religions make that claim, how would one choose to accept one over the others? I'm not trolling. I have been asking this question to promoters of 3 different religions and all somehow claim the same basis for belief. The bizarre claim that some God just reveals itself to different cultures is in conflict with the religions own claims. I am not saying there is no god(s), the evidence for that is failure of most religious claims. In other words, all the worlds religions could be wrong but there is a god(s). So I am left with declining belief as the default position. However,I'm still asking. To tell me its in the bible requires one to assume its claims are true. In which case I would have already accepted the claims. I don't know the supernatural claims are true. That a river or mountain or city is mentioned is meaningless to the heart of the claim, the supernatural. To the best of my research, there has never been a documented supernatural event. The Bible, all religions texts, are just one claim after another.
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Luke 21:36
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36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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Versions of gods word? Sweet. Pick your version.
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Do you speak Greek or Hebeer?
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Hebeer...holy pilsner is a preference.
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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How do you know its correct? Other than you believe it to be so, so what? A Muslim could tell me its in the Koran. They believe its gods word. Other than the odd "faith" invocation, all religions make that claim, how would one choose to accept one over the others? I'm not trolling. I have been asking this question to promoters of 3 different religions and all somehow claim the same basis for belief. The bizarre claim that some God just reveals itself to different cultures is in conflict with the religions own claims. I am not saying there is no god(s), the evidence for that is failure of most religious claims. In other words, all the worlds religions could be wrong but there is a god(s). So I am left with declining belief as the default position. However,I'm still asking. To tell me its in the bible requires one to assume its claims are true. In which case I would have already accepted the claims. I don't know the supernatural claims are true. That a river or mountain or city is mentioned is meaningless to the heart of the claim, the supernatural. To the best of my research, there has never been a documented supernatural event. The Bible, all religions texts, are just one claim after another.
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Because satan has deceived muslims,hindus,buddhists etc.
Just you wait and see the power of the God of Israel.
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The truth will be revealed in the end.
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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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How do you know its correct? Other than you believe it to be so, so what? A Muslim could tell me its in the Koran. They believe its gods word. Other than the odd "faith" invocation, all religions make that claim, how would one choose to accept one over the others? I'm not trolling. I have been asking this question to promoters of 3 different religions and all somehow claim the same basis for belief. The bizarre claim that some God just reveals itself to different cultures is in conflict with the religions own claims. I am not saying there is no god(s), the evidence for that is failure of most religious claims. In other words, all the worlds religions could be wrong but there is a god(s). So I am left with declining belief as the default position. However,I'm still asking. To tell me its in the bible requires one to assume its claims are true. In which case I would have already accepted the claims. I don't know the supernatural claims are true. That a river or mountain or city is mentioned is meaningless to the heart of the claim, the supernatural. To the best of my research, there has never been a documented supernatural event. The Bible, all religions texts, are just one claim after another.
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Fulfillment of prophecy!

You speak of the Koran. You mean that book that says the sun sets in a muddy pool and babies come from blood clots? How could anyone take anything written in a book like that seriously?

The Holy Bible, on the other hand, has proven itself over and over again to be true. There have been many, many prophecies already fulfilled. Since it has proven itself to be accurate and true time and time again, I see no reason to doubt the remaining prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled.

Here's a list of 44 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus alone!

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Jesus said those that are worthy will escape the tribulation
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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How do you know its correct? Other than you believe it to be so, so what? A Muslim could tell me its in the Koran. They believe its gods word. Other than the odd "faith" invocation, all religions make that claim, how would one choose to accept one over the others? I'm not trolling. I have been asking this question to promoters of 3 different religions and all somehow claim the same basis for belief. The bizarre claim that some God just reveals itself to different cultures is in conflict with the religions own claims. I am not saying there is no god(s), the evidence for that is failure of most religious claims. In other words, all the worlds religions could be wrong but there is a god(s). So I am left with declining belief as the default position. However,I'm still asking. To tell me its in the bible requires one to assume its claims are true. In which case I would have already accepted the claims. I don't know the supernatural claims are true. That a river or mountain or city is mentioned is meaningless to the heart of the claim, the supernatural. To the best of my research, there has never been a documented supernatural event. The Bible, all religions texts, are just one claim after another.
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kitty Well I sure hope that no one else is relying on your "research." Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
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Imminent
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2000+ years but NOW its imminent? Do tell. Myths thrive in the mind.
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nordicspear Relax, things will happen in the Lord's good time. 2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise

of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
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How do you what Jesus said?
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Look for it,it's in the bible.
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How do you know its correct? Other than you believe it to be so, so what? A Muslim could tell me its in the Koran. They believe its gods word. Other than the odd "faith" invocation, all religions make that claim, how would one choose to accept one over the others? I'm not trolling. I have been asking this question to promoters of 3 different religions and all somehow claim the same basis for belief. The bizarre claim that some God just reveals itself to different cultures is in conflict with the religions own claims. I am not saying there is no god(s), the evidence for that is failure of most religious claims. In other words, all the worlds religions could be wrong but there is a god(s). So I am left with declining belief as the default position. However,I'm still asking. To tell me its in the bible requires one to assume its claims are true. In which case I would have already accepted the claims. I don't know the supernatural claims are true. That a river or mountain or city is mentioned is meaningless to the heart of the claim, the supernatural. To the best of my research, there has never been a documented supernatural event. The Bible, all religions texts, are just one claim after another.
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Because satan has deceived muslims,hindus,buddhists etc.
Just you wait and see the power of the God of Israel.
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Apparently Satan has infiltrated Israel as they reject the Jesus fellow claims. Odd
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The US WAS brought forth in one day. Pretty common as nations declare there independence. Its history of most nation states. You didn't know this?
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blinker It wasn't prophesied in the Bible though.
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Apparently Satan has infiltrated Israel as they reject the Jesus fellow claims. Odd
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german4 You sound like you've been walking around in a coma all your life.
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The US WAS brought forth in one day. Pretty common as nations declare there independence. Its history of most nation states. You didn't know this?
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blinker It wasn't prophesied in the Bible though.
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You may have missed the point.
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Apparently Satan has infiltrated Israel as they reject the Jesus fellow claims. Odd
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german4 You sound like you've been walking around in a coma all your life.
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Project much? A dream world of flying man/gods,talking snakes,dead people strolling about. That's a dream coma in a nutshell. However,enjoy.
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Imminent
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2000+ years but NOW its imminent? Do tell. Myths thrive in the mind.
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nordicspear Relax, things will happen in the Lord's good time. 2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise

of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

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Define imminent? By your usage its whenever he gets around to it. Which is not imminent. Its more whenever. So say that.





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