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bridec Many Bible believing Christians including myself think that we are in bridea

the lull before the storm. The Age of Grace is nearly over, and The Time of Jacob's Troubles is about to begin. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. We have been clearly told that the Rapture will happen when it happens and those who are not right with the Lord, for whatever reason, will be left behind.

This is the price that we must pay for forgetting the Lord, both individually and as nations/societies. Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Because of the great numbers of people who will be going there. One day very soon all those who will miss the Rapture will suddenly realize that the Lord's anger is a very real thing. Those of you who are thinking that they will get to Heaven by becoming Rapture Saints should also remember that there is no guarantee, Many millions will lose their lives in an instant from nuclear bombs and other means of mass death, and that could include you.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?

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OP, I want you to imagine that day has arrived and you are looking down into Hell, seeing all those people being tortured and burned alive, unable to "die", but just suffering horrific, agonizing torture.... every hour, every day, day over day, week over week, YEAR over YEAR, endlessly, for eternity ...

As you're looking upon that sea of burning faces, you suddenly spot ZOVALEX! There he is, that son of a b****!

Will you secretly feel gladness in your heart to see me suffering?

Be honest....

.
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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OP, I want you to imagine that day has arrived and you are looking down into Hell, seeing all those people being tortured and burned alive, unable to "die", but just suffering horrific, agonizing torture.... every hour, every day, day over day, week over week, YEAR over YEAR, endlessly, for eternity ...

As you're looking upon that sea of burning faces, you suddenly spot ZOVALEX! There he is, that son of a b****!

Will you secretly feel gladness in your heart to see me suffering?

Be honest....

.
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If you believe that's where you're headed, why not turn from your sin now and seek the Lord?
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:bridec: Many Bible believing Christians including myself think that we are in :bridea:

the lull before the storm. The Age of Grace is nearly over, and The Time of Jacob's Troubles is about to begin. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. We have been clearly told that the Rapture will happen when it happens and those who are not right with the Lord, for whatever reason, will be left behind.

This is the price that we must pay for forgetting the Lord, both individually and as nations/societies. Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Because of the great numbers of people who will be going there. One day very soon all those who will miss the Rapture will suddenly realize that the Lord's anger is a very real thing. Those of you who are thinking that they will get to Heaven by becoming Rapture Saints should also remember that there is no guarantee, Many millions will lose their lives in an instant from nuclear bombs and other means of mass death, and that could include you.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
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No, the Rapture cannot happen at any moment, that is a lie!
Even the pre tribulation (Pre, Pre Trib Rapture type) events have not occurred yet. So there is no chance of a "pre Trib" Rapture.
(The Pre Trib Rapture doctrine is not supported by the Bible anyway. Which makes it even more impossible to happen; "at any moment".)

People who do not know God's Word, yet think they will go up in the Rapture, are in for a very rude awakening.....
Those teaching such lies will be held even more accountable...
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If you believe that's where you're headed, why not turn from your sin now and seek the Lord?
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I have no sin.

I have nothing to repent for.

I’m simply asking if the OP would secretly delight in my suffering.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Are you worthy to stand before the son of man?
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Are you worthy to stand before the son of man?
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I, and I alone, determine my “worth”.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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:bridec: Many Bible believing Christians including myself think that we are in :bridea:

the lull before the storm. The Age of Grace is nearly over, and The Time of Jacob's Troubles is about to begin. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. We have been clearly told that the Rapture will happen when it happens and those who are not right with the Lord, for whatever reason, will be left behind.

This is the price that we must pay for forgetting the Lord, both individually and as nations/societies. Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Because of the great numbers of people who will be going there. One day very soon all those who will miss the Rapture will suddenly realize that the Lord's anger is a very real thing. Those of you who are thinking that they will get to Heaven by becoming Rapture Saints should also remember that there is no guarantee, Many millions will lose their lives in an instant from nuclear bombs and other means of mass death, and that could include you.

Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?
 Quoting: Judethz

No, the Rapture cannot happen at any moment, that is a lie!
Even the pre tribulation (Pre, Pre Trib Rapture type) events have not occurred yet. So there is no chance of a "pre Trib" Rapture.
(The Pre Trib Rapture doctrine is not supported by the Bible anyway. Which makes it even more impossible to happen; "at any moment".)

People who do not know God's Word, yet think they will go up in the Rapture, are in for a very rude awakening.....
Those teaching such lies will be held even more accountable...
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Congrats you are totally clueless. Study a real Bible and get back to us.
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OP, I want you to imagine that day has arrived and you are looking down into Hell, seeing all those people being tortured and burned alive, unable to "die", but just suffering horrific, agonizing torture.... every hour, every day, day over day, week over week, YEAR over YEAR, endlessly, for eternity ...

As you're looking upon that sea of burning faces, you suddenly spot ZOVALEX! There he is, that son of a b****!

Will you secretly feel gladness in your heart to see me suffering?

Be honest....

.
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4horseman Well to be honest about it if I was the vengeful sort (which I ain't) I reckon that I could probably make up a list long enough to fill up an Olympic-sized swimming pool. As for you, you are such a minor annoyance that if you'd have kept your dumb mouth shut, the odds are really quite good that I would have forgotten about you. LOL

However as it says in the Lord's prayer "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." You talk as though Christians have a free pass to say one thing and do another. I know that we are not perfect and fail many times. But we at least try to practice what we preach.

I actually think that is rather mean of you, and a few others over the years who also think like you. What gives you the right to make up false accusations based upon nothing more than your twisted thoughts? No, I think that if I see you I will feel sad that so many people warned you but you just ignored all of us.



Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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OP, I want you to imagine that day has arrived and you are looking down into Hell, seeing all those people being tortured and burned alive, unable to "die", but just suffering horrific, agonizing torture.... every hour, every day, day over day, week over week, YEAR over YEAR, endlessly, for eternity ...

As you're looking upon that sea of burning faces, you suddenly spot ZOVALEX! There he is, that son of a b****!

Will you secretly feel gladness in your heart to see me suffering?

Be honest....

.
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No.

We want Your Appointment with Jesus Christ to only be Good.

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OP, I want you to imagine that day has arrived and you are looking down into Hell, seeing all those people being tortured and burned alive, unable to "die", but just suffering horrific, agonizing torture.... every hour, every day, day over day, week over week, YEAR over YEAR, endlessly, for eternity ...

As you're looking upon that sea of burning faces, you suddenly spot ZOVALEX! There he is, that son of a b****!

Will you secretly feel gladness in your heart to see me suffering?

Be honest....

.
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No.

We want Your Appointment with Jesus Christ to only be Good.

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Joe, ladies and gentlemen.

The deaf man.

The dumb old dog incapable of learning any new trick.
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No, the Rapture cannot happen at any moment, that is a lie!
Even the pre tribulation (Pre, Pre Trib Rapture type) events have not occurred yet. So there is no chance of a "pre Trib" Rapture.
(The Pre Trib Rapture doctrine is not supported by the Bible anyway. Which makes it even more impossible to happen; "at any moment".)

People who do not know God's Word, yet think they will go up in the Rapture, are in for a very rude awakening.....
Those teaching such lies will be held even more accountable...
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Unless you are wrong.

Why should Jesus count you worthy?
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If you believe that's where you're headed, why not turn from your sin now and seek the Lord?
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I have no sin.

I have nothing to repent for.

I’m simply asking if the OP would secretly delight in my suffering.

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Thou shall not lie.
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This video is predicting June 15,2022:


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A mess of pottage.
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Thou shall not lie.
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I need not be commanded not to lie for me to not lie.

I detest lies and all liars.

I speak Truth.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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In the Bible it says everyone must go thru the first death, all except Enoch who never died and the lord took him.
Rapture (also the origin of the word rape) has everyone saying that the lord will take them away and they'll never know death. So which is it?
In my opinion I believe that God's word is living and is ever up for interpretation. If you have a pure heart (and you know if you do or don't because it's in your heart alone) then you wish no evil thing. Those will be separated from the ones with evil hearts.
Many people do evil things out of ignorance and that doesn't make them evil, they will know the error of their ways and if they accept that evil and continue to engage in that then it creates evil that can grow in your heart, damning you.
Others are so evil they cannot hide it, but from time to time they'll do good things or help people, but they will not be called up with the good because they have no good in them. Motives are the only thing causing them to do good.
So i don't think it's really about fully living piously or strictly by the scripture that will allow the diamond (good) in you to grow, but love is as necessary for it as water is to a plant.
hf
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They could see the splinter (or slit or reptilian snake eye) in other's eyes but not the giant beam in their own.

yeah. the hypocrisy of so many "Christians" today would appear to be totally lost on them. they just refuse to look in the mirror and see the giant BEAM protruding from their own eyes but continue to point it out in others due to their rigid misinterpretation of any real truth to be found in the book itself. It's one of the most blatant examples that they never ever see. for if they truly saw it, they would have a completely different impression of how they are interpreting and even viewing the religion as a whole.
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it's sad really. so much potential and even some very good traits in many of them. Part of me understands it all too well. grew up believing many of the same things until I finally realized what was going on there and ironically, this realization actually got started from some of the good points in the book itself lol yeah no joke!
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I wish sometimes certain truths could be handed to people so they could see them.. but it just doesn't work that way. The creator is real so you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater necessarily. pun intended. lol.
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Chr is t or the God spa rk is also real. I only say this now because I've experienced that connection and it is very real. But the dog ma that the religions have put into people literally is going to block that connection and most don't even realize this. Talk about the ultimate co opting by the dark side or whatever you want to call them.
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I had to chop that into 5 comments due to the absolutely absurd censorship of words here. lol

thanks gubment!

but it proves my point even more
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They could see the splinter (or slit or reptilian snake eye) in other's eyes but not the giant beam in their own.

yeah. the hypocrisy of so many "Christians" today would appear to be totally lost on them. they just refuse to look in the mirror and see the giant BEAM protruding from their own eyes but continue to point it out in others due to their rigid misinterpretation of any real truth to be found in the book itself. It's one of the most blatant examples that they never ever see. for if they truly saw it, they would have a completely different impression of how they are interpreting and even viewing the religion as a whole.
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I know what you mean by the slits I've seen them. And so true, what you said, you can have a conversation with God but as soon as you realize what you're doing.... it has ended. Lose yourself and find what you never knew possible
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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In the Bible it says everyone must go thru the first death, all except Enoch who never died and the lord took him.
Rapture (also the origin of the word rape) has everyone saying that the lord will take them away and they'll never know death. So which is it?
In my opinion I believe that God's word is living and is ever up for interpretation. If you have a pure heart (and you know if you do or don't because it's in your heart alone) then you wish no evil thing. Those will be separated from the ones with evil hearts.
Many people do evil things out of ignorance and that doesn't make them evil, they will know the error of their ways and if they accept that evil and continue to engage in that then it creates evil that can grow in your heart, damning you.
Others are so evil they cannot hide it, but from time to time they'll do good things or help people, but they will not be called up with the good because they have no good in them. Motives are the only thing causing them to do good.
So i don't think it's really about fully living piously or strictly by the scripture that will allow the diamond (good) in you to grow, but love is as necessary for it as water is to a plant.
hf
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Elijah was raptured.
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Elijah, Enoch, Jesus, are examples of the Ascension or Rapture, not exceptions.

It may happen after or before death.

In present it will happen before death, with the person taken to the Merkabah or Chariots of Fire in the Physical Body.

There will be also those who will Ascend later after death as well, after a preparation period in the Inner Planes.
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In the Bible it says everyone must go thru the first death, all except Enoch who never died and the lord took him.
Rapture (also the origin of the word rape) has everyone saying that the lord will take them away and they'll never know death. So which is it?
In my opinion I believe that God's word is living and is ever up for interpretation. If you have a pure heart (and you know if you do or don't because it's in your heart alone) then you wish no evil thing. Those will be separated from the ones with evil hearts.
Many people do evil things out of ignorance and that doesn't make them evil, they will know the error of their ways and if they accept that evil and continue to engage in that then it creates evil that can grow in your heart, damning you.
Others are so evil they cannot hide it, but from time to time they'll do good things or help people, but they will not be called up with the good because they have no good in them. Motives are the only thing causing them to do good.
So i don't think it's really about fully living piously or strictly by the scripture that will allow the diamond (good) in you to grow, but love is as necessary for it as water is to a plant.
hf
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hf
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In the Bible it says everyone must go thru the first death, all except Enoch who never died and the lord took him.
Rapture (also the origin of the word rape) has everyone saying that the lord will take them away and they'll never know death. So which is it?
In my opinion I believe that God's word is living and is ever up for interpretation. If you have a pure heart (and you know if you do or don't because it's in your heart alone) then you wish no evil thing. Those will be separated from the ones with evil hearts.
Many people do evil things out of ignorance and that doesn't make them evil, they will know the error of their ways and if they accept that evil and continue to engage in that then it creates evil that can grow in your heart, damning you.
Others are so evil they cannot hide it, but from time to time they'll do good things or help people, but they will not be called up with the good because they have no good in them. Motives are the only thing causing them to do good.
So i don't think it's really about fully living piously or strictly by the scripture that will allow the diamond (good) in you to grow, but love is as necessary for it as water is to a plant.
hf
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german3 And that is precisely the kind of devil-inspired "if it feels good do it" evil that has gotten us into trouble

in the first place. Who are you to think that you can change the commandments to suit your own needs. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


Jhn 14:21 Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.”

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Doug batchellor talks about hell
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Doug batchellor talks about hell
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For those who don’t know, Doug batchelor is a seventh day Adventist preacher





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