The Rapture, Death, and Destruction. | |
Centex7
User ID: 83676435 United States 06/16/2022 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, no anger. Not on my part anyway. Questioning is usually mistaken for anger by those who are being asked. But there certainly angry people at God which I find as silly as believers. They both believe the tale but one loves it and one hates it. I just see no reason to feel either but think its just like all god/spirit claims, far short of good evidence. |
Judethz
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/16/2022 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we think that the shenanigans of the British royal family are bad! [link to youtu.be (secure)] Last Edited by Judethz on 06/16/2022 08:02 PM |
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Brazilian Music
User ID: 83610652 Brazil 06/18/2022 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. Quoting: Judethz This means that beer will be cheaper than bread, people in Brazil will like that, since they drink more beer than eat bread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82055429 United States 06/18/2022 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. Quoting: Judethz This means that beer will be cheaper than bread, people in Brazil will like that, since they drink more beer than eat bread. During that time, Jesus wont allow people to drink too much, it will be monitored, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83704597 United States 06/18/2022 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, the Rapture cannot happen at any moment, that is a lie! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83512525 Even the pre tribulation (Pre, Pre Trib Rapture type) events have not occurred yet. So there is no chance of a "pre Trib" Rapture. (The Pre Trib Rapture doctrine is not supported by the Bible anyway. Which makes it even more impossible to happen; "at any moment".) People who do not know God's Word, yet think they will go up in the Rapture, are in for a very rude awakening..... Those teaching such lies will be held even more accountable... Unless you are wrong. Why should Jesus count you worthy? Jesus death, burial and resurrection and my belief is why he will count me worthy. Romans 10:9, John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83706714 United States 06/19/2022 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another point about the 'Seals'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82150084 During the 6th Seal, in Revelation 7, the angel 'from the East' tells 4 other angels to 'not hurt the Earth nor sea'. Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads./ WHY would 'bit hurting the Earth' be important? It is easy to argue that if the Resurrection has NOT taken place yet, 'hurting the Earth' would be 'executing Wrath' on Believers who hadn't been Resurrected yet! That would be referring to the Tribulation Saints who will be here at that time. Note: At the time of the Rapture there will be many millions of believers who have died in the Lord, who are Raptured before those of us who are alive. So much for the argument that those of us who believe and are alive have to go through the Tribulation. NONSENSE. Those 'dead inChrist' are raised JUST Before those who are 'alive and remain'. Paul is clear about this. Christ returns AFTER the tribulation. 'Tribulation saints' - that phrase isn't in the Bible. You think Stephen didn't go through great tribulation when the Pharisees stoned him to death? Jesus returns ONCE. No scripture states otherwise. |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/19/2022 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You think Stephen didn't go through great tribulation when the Pharisees stoned him to death? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83706714 Jesus returns ONCE. No scripture states otherwise. I don't feel like dealing with all your rubbish first thing of the day. However 1... Obviously many people suffer like Stephen did, but many millions do not. b]Isa 57:1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come. 2...Jesus returns TWICE. |
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ThePassenger
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ThePassenger
User ID: 83708963 France 06/19/2022 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so few elected and pure people that nobody can notice it. 144000? Last Edited by ThePassenger on 06/19/2022 07:34 AM A.I.B.I.A. |
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/19/2022 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm one of the 144000 right now going through hell,trying to receive the spirit but interrupted by demons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80853731 Yes the devil is working overtime right now, and it does make life more difficult for all of us. But keep going, the Lord will be quick to hear you and give you the strength to emerge victorious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80853731 Spain 06/19/2022 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm one of the 144000 right now going through hell,trying to receive the spirit but interrupted by demons. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80853731 :blinker: Yes the devil is working overtime right now, and it does make life more difficult for all of us. But keep going, the Lord will be quick to hear you and give you the strength to emerge victorious. I can even feel the halo forming around my head and then a noise or voice interrupts me and back to zero.have you experienced this? |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/19/2022 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can even feel the halo forming around my head and then a noise or voice interrupts me and back to zero.have you experienced this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80853731 No the closest I've come to that is when one of my nieces whose face was disfigured by an accident transformed into the beautiful little girl that she was before. Both my mother and I saw this, and later on she did heal completely. |
clemmens14
User ID: 76559787 United States 06/19/2022 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no void in the spirit. We choose to fill our souls with righteousness or unrighteousness, the spirit of God or the spirit of anti-God. The evil that is coming, is not coming for the people who have already allowed the spirit of unrighteousness to enter them. That is why we are here, to tell them of The Truth and to preach the Gospel to those who are filled with unrighteousness and to give them the good news that their sins can be forgiven! It is the Lamb Himself, Jesus Christ, who opens the seals in Revelation 1-11. Therefore, it is Jesus Christ who opens the first seal allowing anti-god to ride here. This rider is given a crown and a bow from Heaven and he is sent forth by Heaven to conquer the earth. Like the Son of God being tested in the desert, we too will be tested. Revelation is not just about evil….ALL will be revealed to all. We will choose to preserve this life at the expense of the next, or we will choose to preserve the next life knowing that this life is passing away. Out of this, Jesus will find a bride, His bride. Those of us who even in tribulation, persecution, and death chose Him. It makes me wonder, if the plan was to just rapture His church and take His bride out of here right at the start…..why go through tribulation at all? There would be no need at that point. Last Edited by clemmens14 on 06/19/2022 01:47 PM |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/19/2022 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no void in the spirit. We choose to fill our souls with righteousness or unrighteousness, the spirit of God or the spirit of anti-God. The evil that is coming, is not coming for the people who have already allowed the spirit of unrighteousness to enter them. That is why we are here, to tell them of The Truth and to preach the Gospel to those who are filled with unrighteousness and to give them the good news that their sins can be forgiven! Quoting: clemmens14 It is the Lamb Himself, Jesus Christ, who opens the seals in Revelation 1-11. Therefore, it is Jesus Christ who opens the first seal allowing anti-god to ride here. This rider is given a crown and a bow from Heaven and he is sent forth by Heaven to conquer the earth. Like the Son of God being tested in the desert, we too will be tested. Revelation is not just about evil….ALL will be revealed to all. We will choose to preserve this life at the expense of the next, or we will choose to preserve the next life knowing that this life is passing away. Out of this, Jesus will find a bride, His bride. Those of us who even in tribulation, persecution, and death chose Him. It makes me wonder, if the plan was to just rapture His church and take His bride out of here right at the start…..why go through tribulation at all? There would be no need at that point. You are just waffling and trying to spiritualize everything away. You don't quote the Bible to support your arguments for the very good reason that it doesn't support your arguments. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70387291 United States 06/19/2022 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :bridec: Many Bible believing Christians including myself think that we are in :bridea: Quoting: Judethz the lull before the storm. The Age of Grace is nearly over, and The Time of Jacob's Troubles is about to begin. Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. We have been clearly told that the Rapture will happen when it happens and those who are not right with the Lord, for whatever reason, will be left behind. This is the price that we must pay for forgetting the Lord, both individually and as nations/societies. Isa 5:14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it. Because of the great numbers of people who will be going there. One day very soon all those who will miss the Rapture will suddenly realize that the Lord's anger is a very real thing. Those of you who are thinking that they will get to Heaven by becoming Rapture Saints should also remember that there is no guarantee, Many millions will lose their lives in an instant from nuclear bombs and other means of mass death, and that could include you. Remember that the Rapture can happen at any moment, in the twinkling of an eye. You have still been blessed with a little time, so if you have not made your self right with the Lord, turn to Him now with all your heart and He will be quick to hear you. But don't take all day about it, you could be hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be? , are you the one drivin the bus?, , please take your manmade, false, you have to go to man, or human, for your bible learnings, shit somewhere else., , , easy comfortable life?, mostly? hmm. , but ya dont know him, too much fear porn, and waay too much religion, versus real day in day out, having to trust him alone, on too many things,, please get off the internet, you are all , the fear porn, , fake christians, preppers, so called truthers, , forever, , nuclear bombs?, ya acuually believe, this false proxy or whatever war?, damn you blind., the wars constant, always, on us, from birth, you idiot. spiritual warefare, you who go to these buildings, called churches, are the biggest part of., , you dont really want to know, anything else, , for yourselff., , you dont question, and really ask father god and jesus, i bet your , fairly well off comfy., , the rest of us real been askin the lord for years, to show us all other real belivers, , no fake, sucks to have , a belief or religion with nothing to back it up, shallow. all part of the problem. |
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THE AC
User ID: 81991095 United States 06/20/2022 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Mid Trib person Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 seem to point to that. 2nd Thessalonians (Do you remember what was revealed?) The man of sin and the restrainer the day the music died Half time air was sweet perfume we all got up to dance the Jester steals the thorny crown on the sidelines in a cast clearly after the war with Michael Traitors to the Devil we are the Anonymous Christ within, the hope of glory. |
Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/20/2022 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | , are you the one drivin the bus?, , please take your manmade, false, you have to go to man, or human, for your bible learnings, shit somewhere else., , , easy comfortable life?, mostly? hmm. , but ya dont know him, too much fear porn, and waay too much religion, versus real day in day out, having to trust him alone, on too many things,, please get off the internet, you are all , the fear porn, , fake christians, preppers, so called truthers, , forever, , nuclear bombs?, ya acuually believe, this false proxy or whatever war?, damn you blind., the wars constant, always, on us, from birth, you idiot. spiritual warefare, you who go to these buildings, called churches, are the biggest part of., , you dont really want to know, anything else, , for yourselff., , you dont question, and really ask father god and jesus, i bet your , fairly well off comfy., , the rest of us real been askin the lord for years, to show us all other real belivers, , no fake, sucks to have , a belief or religion with nothing to back it up, shallow. all part of the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70387291 Well attacking the messenger does not alter the message, because the message is from the Bible. So it's not so much me that you are rejecting, but the words of the Lord. And you are also being very selfish, filled with jealousy and rage at us who will escape the Tribulation while billions of people who think like you will be left to face it, with (I hope) many of you saving your souls by becoming Tribulation Saints. Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78534987 United States 06/20/2022 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no void in the spirit. We choose to fill our souls with righteousness or unrighteousness, the spirit of God or the spirit of anti-God. The evil that is coming, is not coming for the people who have already allowed the spirit of unrighteousness to enter them. That is why we are here, to tell them of The Truth and to preach the Gospel to those who are filled with unrighteousness and to give them the good news that their sins can be forgiven! Quoting: clemmens14 It is the Lamb Himself, Jesus Christ, who opens the seals in Revelation 1-11. Therefore, it is Jesus Christ who opens the first seal allowing anti-god to ride here. This rider is given a crown and a bow from Heaven and he is sent forth by Heaven to conquer the earth. Like the Son of God being tested in the desert, we too will be tested. Revelation is not just about evil….ALL will be revealed to all. We will choose to preserve this life at the expense of the next, or we will choose to preserve the next life knowing that this life is passing away. Out of this, Jesus will find a bride, His bride. Those of us who even in tribulation, persecution, and death chose Him. It makes me wonder, if the plan was to just rapture His church and take His bride out of here right at the start…..why go through tribulation at all? There would be no need at that point. :german5: You are just waffling and trying to spiritualize everything away. You don't quote the Bible to support your arguments for the very good reason that it doesn't support your arguments. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? |
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/21/2022 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a Mid Trib person Quoting: THE AC Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 seem to point to that. 2nd Thessalonians (Do you remember what was revealed?) The man of sin and the restrainer the day the music died Half time air was sweet perfume we all got up to dance the Jester steals the thorny crown on the sidelines in a cast clearly after the war with Michael Basing your mid trib idea on passages from the Bible that seem to point to that, seems to say to me that the chances of you driving your Chevy off the levy, and deep into the mud are actually quite good. Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. |
ThePassenger
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/21/2022 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Queen censorship is strong today. Quoting: Brazilian Music Coudn't be otherwise, it's Monday, you know, the most hated day of the week. In Paradise there will be no Mondays, only Sundays... What gives you the idea that the days of the week (or anything else) will continue to be named after the planets or false 'gods.' |
ThePassenger
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Judethz
(OP) User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 06/22/2022 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No the whole world will know when it happens.* Neither you nor I know how many shall be taken, but I doubt that it will be just a few as you seem to think. 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. * Quite a few Christians, including myself, think that afterwards, TPTB will explain it away to a panicked and upset world by saying that we were abducted by space aliens or some such nonsense. |