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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The one thing NASA did not know at the time that completely obliterates any chance they could pull of this lie is that the Magnetosphere is too unpredictable to risk transverse of it without some means of deflecting particle radiation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 This is doable , but will be heavy and need to be assembled in orbit. I predict the new capsules like Orion being developed now will never leave earth orbit Lets see if I am right. Not only that, once they are out of the magnetosphere they would be killed by any moderate M class flare of substantial duration, or an earth directed CME. An X class flare would have killed them in less than ten minutes. ANY significant solar activity while they were one the surface of the moon would likely have been fatal. If that were the case then no satellites would be possible, whether they were inside or outside Earth's orbit. Anyone with a DirecTV dish can tell you the satellites are there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! Dont let the government shills derail the thread with flat earth horseshit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 I wish I was being paid. It's interesting that you believe they would tell you the truth on one issue, but you also fail to realize that EVERYTHING they are telling you is a lie. No orbital mechanics or megabits or megabytes are needed; it's all nonsense. They haven't been anywhere and are not going anywhere. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039 More Dunning–Kruger, you are an expert in radio transmitters and radio waves? The very large dishes around the world like jodrell bank dish used to receive and amplify. Where did you study this field of science? [link to www.popsci.com (secure)] I think I know as much about radio as anyone else you are likely to speak to here. It would take 2000 watts and at least 2 megabytes of bandwidth to come even close. They had 23 watts, and 500 kilobytes per second data transmission rate. The whole tv broadcast was digital as was the telemetry, everything besides the audio, which was piggy backed on to a multiplexed signal.. And I am telling you they lied. What they claimed at the time got by us, because no one even knew any of the details of Apollo. As a child I was convinced it used some kind of nuclear reactor. We knew there were secrets, we just assumed it. Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. You seem to have forgotten about analogue voice, bio-metric telemetry and the telemetry of the multitude of the spacecrafts critical systems itself Remember seeing all of those people sitting at computer consoles smoking Marlboro's? They were receiving that data, coming from two sources, he command module and service module, and the LEM Get it? Alot of data |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365039 United Kingdom 11/01/2021 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 I understood it more than you are capable of when I was about 6 or 7. You seem not to have studied orbital mechanics, maybe you need something more to your level... One thing that separates a smart person from a stupid one is knowing what to filter out as useless or unreliable information, and what to actually commit to memory as a useful fact In this case a YouTube video by some jackoff that probably failed 7th grade science Show me how this video is wrong and does not show the basics that are taught in Orbital Mechanics all around the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80520734 I have not mentioned any "god" or "gods", so not sure where you are getting that from. I don't worship any god/s, thanks, ace. No angles here. I pointed out that ships can be brought back into view with a strong enough camera or telescope, thus negating the claim that ships "disappear behind a curve". More YouTube nonsense the boat was already visible and not gone over the curve yet why don't the film a boat travelling away from them and keep filming till it vanishes. Using flat earth logic with powerful telescope from top of skyscraper you should be able to always see the moon and sun and the whole earth. Before you state something like the atmosphere would block you, think about this. Stars are visible on the horizon and they further away than anything on earth..... You should be able to see France on a clear day The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. This is why you cannot receive TV signals from terrestrial stations beyond the horizon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81077684 I do. 23 watts and half a megabyte of bandwidth was not enough to do what was claimed, PERIOD. and I know more about it than you do. You obviously don't know. [link to www.ka9q.net] But you are IDW, and you're still not welcome here after you falsely accused me of threatening to shoot you. You already know the AC is an idiot since they designated bandwidth in Megabytes and not Megabits. Even further on, Satellite comms are usually measured in a "Symbol Rate" and the effective bandwidth varies depending on factors like Forward Error Correction. SO was 500 kilohertz enough bandwidth , or not? I am an idiot because I wrote megabyte in place of megabit? Hmmm Hmm. No matter how you pick apart my posts looking for inconsequential errors, in the end NASA failed to include the thermal energy of the moon in it's link budget signal to noise calculations and they can't explain how they transmitted all of that data simultaneously with 500 kilohertz of bandwidth because even a little kid can tell you why it isnt possible in todays world. Okay. What's the difference between a megabit and a megabyte? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365039 United Kingdom 11/01/2021 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! This is difficult to believe for a very simple reason. Quoting: Doc Savage Watching the video, it's obvious there were many people involved in the production of this supposed "fake" footage. And in the ensuing 52 years, not even one of them ever spilled their guts about it? Common sense says that's impossible. I happen to know a few people personally who were involved, behind who have spilled their guts, and shortly after had some kind of untimely demise. I also know many involved have signaled to us that it was a hoax, including Armstrong himself. Not many involved had to know what was really going on. They launched a big rocket into space, thats all most of them actually knew. This man and his family were ran over by a train after he presented a report to congress claiming the Apollo program was a fraud , a expensive piece of shit, and would never reach the moon: Here is NASA official rendition of events: [you have to put the letters "ar" where I have asterisks because this forum bans the name of the ex-presidents son, which happens to be the same] ... [link to history.nasa.gov (secure)] › Apollo204 › b**ron Ba**n was a rank and file inspector at Kennedy from September 1965 until November 1966, when he asked for and received a leave of absence. Now here is the truth: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Death Six days after his testimony, B**on was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][7] B**on's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play I bet that woman has a villa in Switzerland too. You'd kill him before he testified lol pointless after |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The one thing NASA did not know at the time that completely obliterates any chance they could pull of this lie is that the Magnetosphere is too unpredictable to risk transverse of it without some means of deflecting particle radiation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 This is doable , but will be heavy and need to be assembled in orbit. I predict the new capsules like Orion being developed now will never leave earth orbit Lets see if I am right. Not only that, once they are out of the magnetosphere they would be killed by any moderate M class flare of substantial duration, or an earth directed CME. An X class flare would have killed them in less than ten minutes. ANY significant solar activity while they were one the surface of the moon would likely have been fatal. If that were the case then no satellites would be possible, whether they were inside or outside Earth's orbit. Anyone with a DirecTV dish can tell you the satellites are there. That's some leap of logic there, sparky Electronics can be shielded effectively because they are compact, and since they have redundancy and backup built in they can withstand and "heal" from data loss. ALL satellites are built this way. And they are lost on occasion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! Less than 50% "160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body." 161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball." 162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes. 163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.” [link to flatearthfacts.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! This is difficult to believe for a very simple reason. Quoting: Doc Savage Watching the video, it's obvious there were many people involved in the production of this supposed "fake" footage. And in the ensuing 52 years, not even one of them ever spilled their guts about it? Common sense says that's impossible. I happen to know a few people personally who were involved, behind who have spilled their guts, and shortly after had some kind of untimely demise. I also know many involved have signaled to us that it was a hoax, including Armstrong himself. Not many involved had to know what was really going on. They launched a big rocket into space, thats all most of them actually knew. This man and his family were ran over by a train after he presented a report to congress claiming the Apollo program was a fraud , a expensive piece of shit, and would never reach the moon: Here is NASA official rendition of events: [you have to put the letters "ar" where I have asterisks because this forum bans the name of the ex-presidents son, which happens to be the same] ... [link to history.nasa.gov (secure)] › Apollo204 › b**ron Ba**n was a rank and file inspector at Kennedy from September 1965 until November 1966, when he asked for and received a leave of absence. Now here is the truth: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Death Six days after his testimony, B**on was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][7] B**on's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play I bet that woman has a villa in Switzerland too. You'd kill him before he testified lol pointless after Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039 More Dunning–Kruger, you are an expert in radio transmitters and radio waves? The very large dishes around the world like jodrell bank dish used to receive and amplify. Where did you study this field of science? [link to www.popsci.com (secure)] I think I know as much about radio as anyone else you are likely to speak to here. It would take 2000 watts and at least 2 megabytes of bandwidth to come even close. They had 23 watts, and 500 kilobytes per second data transmission rate. The whole tv broadcast was digital as was the telemetry, everything besides the audio, which was piggy backed on to a multiplexed signal.. And I am telling you they lied. What they claimed at the time got by us, because no one even knew any of the details of Apollo. As a child I was convinced it used some kind of nuclear reactor. We knew there were secrets, we just assumed it. Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p) No. And they were digital: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images. Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital. Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365039 United Kingdom 11/01/2021 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039 More YouTube nonsense the boat was already visible and not gone over the curve yet why don't the film a boat travelling away from them and keep filming till it vanishes. Using flat earth logic with powerful telescope from top of skyscraper you should be able to always see the moon and sun and the whole earth. Before you state something like the atmosphere would block you, think about this. Stars are visible on the horizon and they further away than anything on earth..... You should be able to see France on a clear day The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. This is why you cannot receive TV signals from terrestrial stations beyond the horizon. Also radar has limited range due to curve of the earth. Also why put Radio and TV towers so high if was flat. Seems higher towers broadcast further..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365039 United Kingdom 11/01/2021 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81077918 I think I know as much about radio as anyone else you are likely to speak to here. It would take 2000 watts and at least 2 megabytes of bandwidth to come even close. They had 23 watts, and 500 kilobytes per second data transmission rate. The whole tv broadcast was digital as was the telemetry, everything besides the audio, which was piggy backed on to a multiplexed signal.. And I am telling you they lied. What they claimed at the time got by us, because no one even knew any of the details of Apollo. As a child I was convinced it used some kind of nuclear reactor. We knew there were secrets, we just assumed it. Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p) No. And they were digital: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Digital? ROFL Still laughing at this |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039 More YouTube nonsense the boat was already visible and not gone over the curve yet why don't the film a boat travelling away from them and keep filming till it vanishes. Using flat earth logic with powerful telescope from top of skyscraper you should be able to always see the moon and sun and the whole earth. Before you state something like the atmosphere would block you, think about this. Stars are visible on the horizon and they further away than anything on earth..... You should be able to see France on a clear day The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. As has already been shown, there is no "curvature". You could also say UHF signals are blocked by Santa's elves. And that would prove Santa has elves, and ergo, Santa exists. It's what is known as a "logical fallacy". It's a fun game, really. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81077918 I think I know as much about radio as anyone else you are likely to speak to here. It would take 2000 watts and at least 2 megabytes of bandwidth to come even close. They had 23 watts, and 500 kilobytes per second data transmission rate. The whole tv broadcast was digital as was the telemetry, everything besides the audio, which was piggy backed on to a multiplexed signal.. And I am telling you they lied. What they claimed at the time got by us, because no one even knew any of the details of Apollo. As a child I was convinced it used some kind of nuclear reactor. We knew there were secrets, we just assumed it. Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. You seem to have forgotten about analogue voice, bio-metric telemetry and the telemetry of the multitude of the spacecrafts critical systems itself Remember seeing all of those people sitting at computer consoles smoking Marlboro's? They were receiving that data, coming from two sources, he command module and service module, and the LEM Get it? Alot of data You really need to look up what slow scan television is before you embarrass yourself any further. Voice mux is practically irrelevant. Only 8Khz is needed for that in uncompressed analog. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Astromut You obviously don't know. [link to www.ka9q.net] But you are IDW, and you're still not welcome here after you falsely accused me of threatening to shoot you. You already know the AC is an idiot since they designated bandwidth in Megabytes and not Megabits. Even further on, Satellite comms are usually measured in a "Symbol Rate" and the effective bandwidth varies depending on factors like Forward Error Correction. SO was 500 kilohertz enough bandwidth , or not? I am an idiot because I wrote megabyte in place of megabit? Hmmm Hmm. No matter how you pick apart my posts looking for inconsequential errors, in the end NASA failed to include the thermal energy of the moon in it's link budget signal to noise calculations and they can't explain how they transmitted all of that data simultaneously with 500 kilohertz of bandwidth because even a little kid can tell you why it isnt possible in todays world. Okay. What's the difference between a megabit and a megabyte? A byte consists of 8 bits. So we are back to the same question, which you are dancing around. Was 500 kilohertz of bandwidth enough or not? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. This is why you cannot receive TV signals from terrestrial stations beyond the horizon. Also radar has limited range due to curve of the earth. Also why put Radio and TV towers so high if was flat. Seems higher towers broadcast further..... So radar has a limited range because of curvature, but the Nikon P900 and telescopes are not limited by that same curvature, as has been shown. Okay. Got it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81077918 I think I know as much about radio as anyone else you are likely to speak to here. It would take 2000 watts and at least 2 megabytes of bandwidth to come even close. They had 23 watts, and 500 kilobytes per second data transmission rate. The whole tv broadcast was digital as was the telemetry, everything besides the audio, which was piggy backed on to a multiplexed signal.. And I am telling you they lied. What they claimed at the time got by us, because no one even knew any of the details of Apollo. As a child I was convinced it used some kind of nuclear reactor. We knew there were secrets, we just assumed it. Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p) No. And they were digital: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images. Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital. Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago. Literally everything you said is wrong The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital. Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Constant Parad0x Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p) No. And they were digital: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Digital? ROFL Still laughing at this Yeah, and you're a baying jackass too |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The one thing NASA did not know at the time that completely obliterates any chance they could pull of this lie is that the Magnetosphere is too unpredictable to risk transverse of it without some means of deflecting particle radiation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 This is doable , but will be heavy and need to be assembled in orbit. I predict the new capsules like Orion being developed now will never leave earth orbit Lets see if I am right. Not only that, once they are out of the magnetosphere they would be killed by any moderate M class flare of substantial duration, or an earth directed CME. An X class flare would have killed them in less than ten minutes. ANY significant solar activity while they were one the surface of the moon would likely have been fatal. If that were the case then no satellites would be possible, whether they were inside or outside Earth's orbit. Anyone with a DirecTV dish can tell you the satellites are there. That's some leap of logic there, sparky Electronics can be shielded effectively because they are compact, and since they have redundancy and backup built in they can withstand and "heal" from data loss. ALL satellites are built this way. And they are lost on occasion. And indeed humans as well can be shielded from radiation. What's your point? Aren't the van Allen belts mostly alpha and beta anyways? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. Also radar has limited range due to curve of the earth. What's interesting is that the US Navy's Rail Gun does not account for any curvature at all over 125 miles. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. This is why you cannot receive TV signals from terrestrial stations beyond the horizon. Also radar has limited range due to curve of the earth. What's interesting is that the US Navy's Rail Gun does not account for any curvature at all over 125 miles. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. As has already been shown, there is no "curvature". You could also say UHF signals are blocked by Santa's elves. And that would prove Santa has elves, and ergo, Santa exists. It's what is known as a "logical fallacy". It's a fun game, really. Well, all you really need to prove it to yourself there genius is a flashlight, a basketball, and a flat piece of cardboard cut into a circle, but I digress..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Constant Parad0x You already know the AC is an idiot since they designated bandwidth in Megabytes and not Megabits. Even further on, Satellite comms are usually measured in a "Symbol Rate" and the effective bandwidth varies depending on factors like Forward Error Correction. SO was 500 kilohertz enough bandwidth , or not? I am an idiot because I wrote megabyte in place of megabit? Hmmm Hmm. No matter how you pick apart my posts looking for inconsequential errors, in the end NASA failed to include the thermal energy of the moon in it's link budget signal to noise calculations and they can't explain how they transmitted all of that data simultaneously with 500 kilohertz of bandwidth because even a little kid can tell you why it isnt possible in todays world. Okay. What's the difference between a megabit and a megabyte? A byte consists of 8 bits. So we are back to the same question, which you are dancing around. Was 500 kilohertz of bandwidth enough or not? Right. So you don't know the difference between a megabit and a megabyte and FFS can't even be bothered to look it up. Pathetic trolling attempt. Sage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80520734 United States 11/01/2021 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80520734 The video actually shows men photographing from Andorra to a point well into inland France, 243 miles away. The atmosphere also bends light. However, there is one way to tell... The curvature of the earth prevents receipt of UHF signals over a distance of about 80 miles. As has already been shown, there is no "curvature". You could also say UHF signals are blocked by Santa's elves. And that would prove Santa has elves, and ergo, Santa exists. It's what is known as a "logical fallacy". It's a fun game, really. Well, all you really need to prove it to yourself there genius is a flashlight, a basketball, and a flat piece of cardboard cut into a circle, but I digress..... I'll stick with my P900 and my telescope. They have been consistent so far. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80976164 United States 11/01/2021 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! ... Quoting: Constant Parad0x Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways. Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p) No. And they were digital: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images. Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital. Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago. Literally everything you said is wrong The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital. Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80652131 United States 11/01/2021 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! The one thing NASA did not know at the time that completely obliterates any chance they could pull of this lie is that the Magnetosphere is too unpredictable to risk transverse of it without some means of deflecting particle radiation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131 This is doable , but will be heavy and need to be assembled in orbit. I predict the new capsules like Orion being developed now will never leave earth orbit Lets see if I am right. Not only that, once they are out of the magnetosphere they would be killed by any moderate M class flare of substantial duration, or an earth directed CME. An X class flare would have killed them in less than ten minutes. ANY significant solar activity while they were one the surface of the moon would likely have been fatal. If that were the case then no satellites would be possible, whether they were inside or outside Earth's orbit. Anyone with a DirecTV dish can tell you the satellites are there. That's some leap of logic there, sparky Electronics can be shielded effectively because they are compact, and since they have redundancy and backup built in they can withstand and "heal" from data loss. ALL satellites are built this way. And they are lost on occasion. And indeed humans as well can be shielded from radiation. What's your point? Aren't the van Allen belts mostly alpha and beta anyways? Particle radiation, electrons or protons captured by the earths geomagnetic field is the primary danger in the VAB. These can be of an extremely high energy and flux value, intensity enough to kill in seconds have been recorded by NOAA sats. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365039 United Kingdom 11/01/2021 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: See this now and wake up. . . . MOON LANDING CUT SCENES FILMED IN NEVADA DESERT. . .now you know it's fake! Less than 50% Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80520734 "160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body." 161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball." 162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes. 163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.” [link to flatearthfacts.com (secure)] ROLF They believe rockets push off the air A plane flying level stays at altitude, you have to increase power to go higher. Why would a rocket go strait up it needs to get into orbit. Ok the bottom of the sea must be full of rockets and the ships they hit lol...Sailors must have a lot of film of them splashing down. |