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If that were the case then no satellites would be possible, whether they were inside or outside Earth's orbit. Anyone with a DirecTV dish can tell you the satellites are there.
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That's some leap of logic there, sparky

Cruise

Electronics can be shielded effectively because they are compact, and since they have redundancy and backup built in they can withstand and "heal" from data loss. ALL satellites are built this way. And they are lost on occasion.
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And indeed humans as well can be shielded from radiation. What's your point? Aren't the van Allen belts mostly alpha and beta anyways?
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Particle radiation, electrons or protons captured by the earths geomagnetic field is the primary danger in the VAB.

These can be of an extremely high energy and flux value, intensity enough to kill in seconds have been recorded by NOAA sats.
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love to read the scientific paper you got this info from I doub't you will provide it though.....
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Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p)


No. And they were digital:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images.

Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital.

Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago.
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Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
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overcap
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The input from these cameras which were by themselves neither digital or analogue was fed through a "digital synthesizer" on board the LEM and transmitted to earth in binary digital along with all of the other PCM data. Audio was low fi audio. The tv cameras transmitted their data digitally


100 percent sure on this.
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"160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body."

161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball."

162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes.
163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.”

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ROLF

They believe rockets push off the air
A plane flying level stays at altitude, you have to increase power to go higher.

Why would a rocket go strait up it needs to get into orbit. Ok the bottom of the sea must be full of rockets and the ships they hit lol...Sailors must have a lot of film of them splashing down.
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If rockets fired straight up they would bounce off the stratosphere. These people are total idiots.
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Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images.

Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital.

Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago.
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Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
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overcap
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The input from these cameras which were by themselves neither digital or analogue was fed through a "digital synthesizer" on board the LEM and transmitted to earth in binary digital along with all of the other PCM data. Audio was low fi audio. The tv cameras transmitted their data digitally


100 percent sure on this.
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That's funny. NASA says they used SSTV.
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Uhhhh... The TV broadcast was not digital. 500Kbps is actually plenty for a digitally compressed 480i broadcast anyways.
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Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p)


No. And they were digital:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images.

Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital.

Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago.
 Quoting: Constant Parad0x


Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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That's some leap of logic there, sparky

Cruise

Electronics can be shielded effectively because they are compact, and since they have redundancy and backup built in they can withstand and "heal" from data loss. ALL satellites are built this way. And they are lost on occasion.
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And indeed humans as well can be shielded from radiation. What's your point? Aren't the van Allen belts mostly alpha and beta anyways?
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Particle radiation, electrons or protons captured by the earths geomagnetic field is the primary danger in the VAB.

These can be of an extremely high energy and flux value, intensity enough to kill in seconds have been recorded by NOAA sats.
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love to read the scientific paper you got this info from I doub't you will provide it though.....
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I bet you dont even realize particles originating from the sun have been observed moving at light speed.

Thee isn't a paper on it. There isn't a paper on a lot of things.

Mainly because the same people who pay you are the gatekeepers.
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Wrong: — 2.3 Mbit/sec. NTSC (480i/p)


No. And they were digital:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images.

Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital.

Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago.
 Quoting: Constant Parad0x


Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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It was all transmitted through a digital multiplexer

ALL of it besides the audio
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And indeed humans as well can be shielded from radiation. What's your point? Aren't the van Allen belts mostly alpha and beta anyways?
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Particle radiation, electrons or protons captured by the earths geomagnetic field is the primary danger in the VAB.

These can be of an extremely high energy and flux value, intensity enough to kill in seconds have been recorded by NOAA sats.
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love to read the scientific paper you got this info from I doub't you will provide it though.....
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I bet you dont even realize particles originating from the sun have been observed moving at light speed.

Thee isn't a paper on it. There isn't a paper on a lot of things.

Mainly because the same people who pay you are the gatekeepers.
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SOme of these particles hit the sensors BEFORE The light.

I have better ones , there are probably better ones on the net
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HINT:

Television stations can now have several different channels in the same allotted bandwidth it took for standard 480 line industry standard because digital takes LESS bandwidth.
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idol1

I happen to know a few people personally who were involved, behind who have spilled their guts, and shortly after had some kind of untimely demise. I also know many involved have signaled to us that it was a hoax, including Armstrong himself.


Not many involved had to know what was really going on.
They launched a big rocket into space, thats all most of them actually knew.
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This man and his family were ran over by a train after he presented a report to congress claiming the Apollo program was a fraud , a expensive piece of shit, and would never reach the moon:


Here is NASA official rendition of events:
[you have to put the letters "ar" where I have asterisks because this forum bans the name of the ex-presidents son, which happens to be the same]
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[link to history.nasa.gov (secure)] › Apollo204 › b**ron


Ba**n was a rank and file inspector at Kennedy from September 1965 until November 1966, when he asked for and received a leave of absence.


cruise


Now here is the truth: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Death
Six days after his testimony, B**on was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][7] B**on's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play

I bet that woman has a villa in Switzerland too.
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You'd kill him before he testified lol pointless after
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Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train
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So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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This right here is the exact opposite of reality

I think it might be just a mistake.

Most TV stations broadcast 4 or 5 separate channels in the same bandwidth they could one low resolution channel in analogue, with at least one of them being much higher resolution than 480i.
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This man and his family were ran over by a train after he presented a report to congress claiming the Apollo program was a fraud , a expensive piece of shit, and would never reach the moon:


Here is NASA official rendition of events:
[you have to put the letters "ar" where I have asterisks because this forum bans the name of the ex-presidents son, which happens to be the same]
...
[link to history.nasa.gov (secure)] › Apollo204 › b**ron


Ba**n was a rank and file inspector at Kennedy from September 1965 until November 1966, when he asked for and received a leave of absence.


cruise


Now here is the truth: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Death
Six days after his testimony, B**on was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][7] B**on's death, which was witnessed by a woman, was later ruled as an accident, with no suspicion of foul play

I bet that woman has a villa in Switzerland too.
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You'd kill him before he testified lol pointless after
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Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
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Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
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Slow scan television isn't digital. BTW SSTV is still used today over ham radio and also by satellites to transmit things like weather images.

Analog TV has no concept of Mbit/sec as it is not digital.

Classic Analog TV broadcast uses about 6 MHz of radio bandwidth, which conveniently fits on a single satellite transponder. As we know today, with modern compression techniques they can transmit about 40Mbps on a single transponder. Your 2.3Mbps figure implies some type of compression. Given the high bandwidth, probably MPEG2, which is antiquated and about to be replaced for OTA broadcast and already has been on satellite 15 years ago.
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Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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It was all transmitted through a digital multiplexer

ALL of it besides the audio
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A "digital multiplexer" does not mean that the output signal was digital.

Most FM radio stations broadcast multiple other audio feeds on the same analog signal using nothing more than FM Multiplex with a different modulation rate.
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MIC contractors killed Robert B**on because he had the goods to put an end to their gravy train, which on is anyones guess.


Could have been a company hit.

They killed Grissom and two other astronots just to shut him up. Burned them alive.
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"160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body."

161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball."

162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes.
163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.”

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ROLF


A plane flying level stays at altitude, you have to increase power to go higher.


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No. If there was a curve, one would only have to fly straight and level and one would keep gaining altitude, as the earth would be curving away from the airplane. If there was a curve a pilot would have to keep adjusting downward in order not to fly off into space. Of course, you would lose lift at some point due to the thinner air.

Since airplanes fly straight and level while at altitude, generally, this indicates there is no curvature.

That's quite simple.
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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This right here is the exact opposite of reality

I think it might be just a mistake.

Most TV stations broadcast 4 or 5 separate channels in the same bandwidth they could one low resolution channel in analogue, with at least one of them being much higher resolution than 480i.
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ATSC uses an MPEG2 transport stream with multiple sources muxed into the broadcast. Since it is digital, quality is lost with the addition of each new stream to the mux.
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Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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It was all transmitted through a digital multiplexer

ALL of it besides the audio
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A "digital multiplexer" does not mean that the output signal was digital.

Most FM radio stations broadcast multiple other audio feeds on the same analog signal using nothing more than FM Multiplex with a different modulation rate.
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You're out of your element and out of your league.

Trust me on this


Cruisewuflu

I'm going to make you look like a jackass.

A "multiplex" FM broadcast is not the same thing as four dozen different data sources being transmitted through the same carrier.

FM Stereo is a "multiplex" signal, BTW, as is a television broadcast because it has both audio and video transmitted on the same carrier.
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"160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body."

161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball."

162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes.
163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.”

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..Sailors must have a lot of film of them splashing down.
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If rockets fired straight up they would bounce off the stratosphere. These people are total idiots.
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Sure bro. Of course, they would. That stratosphere is like a brick wall.

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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

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[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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This right here is the exact opposite of reality

I think it might be just a mistake.

Most TV stations broadcast 4 or 5 separate channels in the same bandwidth they could one low resolution channel in analogue, with at least one of them being much higher resolution than 480i.
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ATSC uses an MPEG2 transport stream with multiple sources muxed into the broadcast. Since it is digital, quality is lost with the addition of each new stream to the mux.
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WAT?

cruise

No shit sherlock, but it's still more than one channel with at least one of them a much higher resolution. With analogue they could only have a video and audio signal on the same bandwidth allocation, one channel

Go home little boy, and take your football with you
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You'd kill him before he testified lol pointless after
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Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train
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So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
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Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website

He was just safety inspecting he was not a top scientist he would have had no idea if the mission was possible or not at that time.
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Less than 50%

"160) It is impossible for rockets or any type of jet propulsion engines to work in the alleged non-atmosphere of vacuum space because without air/atmosphere to push against there is nothing to propel the vehicle forwards. Instead, the rockets and shuttles would be sent spinning around their own axis uncontrollably in all directions like a gyroscope. It would be impossible to fly to the Moon or go in any direction whatsoever, especially if “gravity” were real and constantly sucking you towards the closest densest body."

161) "If Earth were really a ball, there would be no reason to use rockets for flying into “outer-space” anyway because simply flying an airplane straight at any altitude for long enough should and would send you off into outer-space. To prevent their airplanes from flying tangent to the ball-Earth, pilots would have to constantly course-correct downwards, or else within just a few hours the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph would find themselves lost in “outer-space.” The fact that this never happens, artificial horizons remain level at pilot’s desired altitudes and do NOT require constant downwards adjustments, proves the Earth is not a ball."

162) "All NASA and other “space agencies” rocket launches never go straight up. Every rocket forms a parabolic curve, peaks out, and inevitably starts falling back to Earth. The rockets which are declared “successful” are those few which don’t explode or start falling too soon but make it out of range of spectator view before crashing down into restricted waters and recovered. There is no magic altitude where rockets or anything else can simply go up, up, up and then suddenly just start “free-floating” in space. This is all a science-fiction illusion created by wires, green screens, dark pools, some permed hair, and Zero-G planes.
163) NASA and other space agencies have been caught time and again with air bubbles forming and floating off in their official “outer-space” footage. Astronauts have also been caught using scuba-space gear, kicking their legs to move, and astronaut Luca Parmitano even almost drowned when water started filling up his helmet while allegedly on a “space-walk.”

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..Sailors must have a lot of film of them splashing down.
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If rockets fired straight up they would bounce off the stratosphere. These people are total idiots.
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Sure bro. Of course, they would. That stratosphere is like a brick wall.

121-JIGAwat
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Flat earthers create strange allies

I almost think they are trying to
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Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website




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epiclol

NUFF SAID I think

We are going to have a trial, but only allow one witness to testify, in his own behalf, the accused criminal
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Not if you disappear his report, like they did. Forgot he whole thing, he asked for a leave of absence and was granted it, with a train
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website

He was just safety inspecting he was not a top scientist he would have had no idea if the mission was possible or not at that time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


testimony

[link to www.clavius.org]
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Literally everything you said is wrong

Cruise

The Apollo "tv cameras" were digital, PERIOD

Analogue tv has the same frequency range /data transmission relationship as digital.

Digital takes less than analogue because it is not a smooth sine wave but plots along it.
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
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It was all transmitted through a digital multiplexer

ALL of it besides the audio
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


A "digital multiplexer" does not mean that the output signal was digital.


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YES, it does

lmao
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So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website

He was just safety inspecting he was not a top scientist he would have had no idea if the mission was possible or not at that time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


testimony

[link to www.clavius.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


[link to www.clavius.org]

holmburg who also testifed
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Not Digital

NASA decided on initial specifications for TV on the Apollo command module (CM) in 1962.[2][Note 1] Both analog and digital transmission techniques were studied, but the early digital systems still used more bandwidth than an analog approach: 20 MHz for the digital system, compared to 500 kHz for the analog system.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81078624

It was all transmitted through a digital multiplexer

ALL of it besides the audio
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


A "digital multiplexer" does not mean that the output signal was digital.

Most FM radio stations broadcast multiple other audio feeds on the same analog signal using nothing more than FM Multiplex with a different modulation rate.
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You're out of your element and out of your league.

Trust me on this


Cruisewuflu

I'm going to make you look like a jackass.

A "multiplex" FM broadcast is not the same thing as four dozen different data sources being transmitted through the same carrier.

FM Stereo is a "multiplex" signal, BTW, as is a television broadcast because it has both audio and video transmitted on the same carrier.
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Multiplex has nothing to do with audio or video. Mpx is 2 or more distinct signals within the same transmission. Content doesn't matter.

You know that FM radio was around prior to stereo broadcast, right genius?
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So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website

He was just safety inspecting he was not a top scientist he would have had no idea if the mission was possible or not at that time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


testimony

[link to www.clavius.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039

idol1


I dont click on that NASANAZI site. Been hacked too many times.

cruise

ANd I don't recommend anyone else does. If it isn't in the congressional record or the library of congress, there is a reason for that and you cant trust a NASA rocket rider site.




Thats the batcave, complete with batshit crazy glory stealing cretins who idolize themselves dude, it's all horseshit. They make it up as I create more problems for them, in real time sometimes. I have proved that in the past by making them repeatedly change their stories and recording the changes.




epiclol
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So he testified his report would be a matter of record then.

His report was about the apollo 1 fire and safety and nothing to do with moon landing couldn't be done the first LEM wasn't built till way after he died and that's a fact.


"on January 27, 1967, Baron delivered this report to the committees of the US Congress that were investigating the disaster and on April 21, 1967 testified before a subcommittee governed by Congressman Olin Teague."

His report is a matter of record and has not been buried.

seems this has been debunked many times...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website




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epiclol

NUFF SAID I think

We are going to have a trial, but only allow one witness to testify, in his own behalf, the accused criminal
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what are you going on about his report is on the nasa website. Godlike will not let me post it cause it has Trumps sons name in the link

just google

AN APOLLO REPORT
BY
THOMAS RONALD BARON
September 1965-November 1966
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This right here is the exact opposite of reality

I think it might be just a mistake.

Most TV stations broadcast 4 or 5 separate channels in the same bandwidth they could one low resolution channel in analogue, with at least one of them being much higher resolution than 480i.
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ATSC uses an MPEG2 transport stream with multiple sources muxed into the broadcast. Since it is digital, quality is lost with the addition of each new stream to the mux.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


WAT?

cruise

No shit sherlock, but it's still more than one channel with at least one of them a much higher resolution. With analogue they could only have a video and audio signal on the same bandwidth allocation, one channel

Go home little boy, and take your football with you
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You have to be 18 to post here. Go back to your Roblox and Fortnite chat.
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Hook us with a link to his report

It was "lost" from the congressional record and his personal material "lost".

I've looked for it, it's not in the congressional record at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80652131


it's on NASA own website

He was just safety inspecting he was not a top scientist he would have had no idea if the mission was possible or not at that time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039


testimony

[link to www.clavius.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80365039

idol1


I dont click on that NASANAZI site. Been hacked too many times.

cruise

ANd I don't recommend anyone else does. If it isn't in the congressional record or the library of congress, there is a reason for that and you cant trust a NASA rocket rider site.




Thats the batcave, complete with batshit crazy glory stealing cretins who idolize themselves dude, it's all horseshit. They make it up as I create more problems for them, in real time sometimes. I have proved that in the past by making them repeatedly change their stories and recording the changes.




epiclol
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Thought so full of shit!





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