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Two more Omicron cases in NSW

Genomic testing has confirmed two more overseas travellers who recently arrived in NSW have been infected with the Omicron variant.

That brings the total number of Omicron cases in the state to four.

Both passengers arrived in Sydney from southern Africa on Singapore Airlines flight SQ211 on Sunday. They are fully vaccinated and isolating in Special Health Accommodation.
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Is it just me or does the WHO statement feel like a calming mechanism for the markets before opening?

If Japan are acting now, others are going to follow very soon. What exactly have they figured out though, that’s what concerns me the most, what evidence do they have already that would warrant border closure? Their vaccination rate is one of the highest in the world…
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Actually we need more Omicron information but it looks like only Country level has it?
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Pass me the Irn Bru



Omicron is everywhere

Borders shutting is an elephant
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BREAKING: Japan closes border to all foreigners due to new coronavirus variant
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Not all foreigners, only some countries, and for one month only.

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Kishida said closing the border is a "temporary measure until information about the Omicron variant becomes clear," adding that "when dealing with an unknown risk, it's best to take every precaution."

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Omicron coronavirus variant has more than
double the mutations of Delta, Italian lab
image shows.

Italian researchers have published
the first image of the Covid-19 Omicron
variant, confirming expectations that the
new strain was a highly mutated version of
the original coronavirus.

However, while its identification earlier
this week has sparked worldwide alarm, the
transmissibility of Omicron and the
severity of illness it can cause have yet
to be determined.


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So have they all over reacted.

Are we in for some Marek’s, i guess that stop the issue of the no vac people seeing as they be first to go.



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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Cats out of the bag
Its in the schools



I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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1 player from Belenenses (soccer team from Portugal) went to South Africa ten ago and infected the entire team with the Omicron variant - total of 13 players
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The ministers of health of the ‘big’ of the Earth will meet already today, in an emergency summit convened by Great Britain to discuss the initiatives to be taken to immediately counter the spread of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus that already worries the whole world, after the first cases sequenced outside of South Africa. World governments were reassured by the words of some experts and health authorities in South Africa, according to which the symptoms of the new mutation would be “light”, but the World Health Organization (WHO) raises the alarm explaining that the new variant it could have “serious consequences”.

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So have they all over reacted.

Are we in for some Marek’s, i guess that stop the issue of the no vac people seeing as they be first to go.


 Quoting: Roughwildfly


Bossche thinks it will be only the people with innate immunity who have *a chance* to survive...

1h 3m 30s:
Unvaxxed immunity will train to improvement.
Vaxed immunity gets worse with time.
You see this already in PHE data.

1h 10m 50s:
"So what we are going to do is, instead of the population exerting selection pressure on the virus, we are going to allow this virus to exert selection pressure on [humans] -- innate immunity of the host"

I believe he's trying to tell us that the virus will select humans based on whether their immune systems are tampered-with or not. Very doomy!

1h 11m 10s
"ONLY THE UNVACCINATED WITH THEIR INNATE IMMUNITY INTACT WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE"

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Clear community spread

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So have they all over reacted.

Are we in for some Marek’s, i guess that stop the issue of the no vac people seeing as they be first to go.


 Quoting: Roughwildfly


Bossche thinks it will be only the people with innate immunity who have *a chance* to survive...

1h 3m 30s:
Unvaxxed immunity will train to improvement.
Vaxed immunity gets worse with time.
You see this already in PHE data.

1h 10m 50s:
"So what we are going to do is, instead of the population exerting selection pressure on the virus, we are going to allow this virus to exert selection pressure on [humans] -- innate immunity of the host"

I believe he's trying to tell us that the virus will select humans based on whether their immune systems are tampered-with or not. Very doomy!

1h 11m 10s
"ONLY THE UNVACCINATED WITH THEIR INNATE IMMUNITY INTACT WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE"

[link to www.bitchute.com (secure)]


 Quoting: S-man 79715523


Im not going to even try and understand the mechanism behind it.

But i would think it would take a few trys todo that.

Till that happens, the unvac are going to he jn for a world of pain first. Till it shifts to the vac side. Fun times ahead who ever you are.
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Just another random and rare collapse

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Its all fine


I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Pass me the Irn Bru



Omicron is everywhere

Borders shutting is an elephant
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Shutting borders means at least you don’t have to take care of foreign folks as your system falls apart.
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Help needed, any idea what this expert is saying? Need to view his full 15 posts, thanks.



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Here's the other thing about Marek's disease and variants.

The reason why vaccines caused super deadly variants in that case, was once a chicken is infected with the Mark's virus, it can be infected for life and can shed virus for life if it's vaccinated.

Before the vaccines, the chickens died at a rate of 80%... that other 20% cleared the virus.

After the vaccines, you had chickens living with the virus as that particular vaccine only prevented symptoms, and not transmission or prolonged infection.

With COVID, vaccinated people clear the virus... generally faster than non-vaccinated. There is LESS chance for the virus to evolve.

Being vaccinated is no different than being previously infected, or infected and fighting off the disease in a couple of weeks.

But you know who doesn't clear the virus? AIDS patients. They are the vaccinated chickens, incubating trillions of viral replication cycles until something nasty happens.

It's two completely different scenarios.
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I read somewhere over the last couple of days that they were trialing a pill version of a drug to conquer Covid in South Africa. That could have led to the development of this variant with all of the strange mutations. A virus will do what a virus has to do to survive, thus we have Omicron.
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It is suspected this variant might have emerged in an HIV positive person.
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1 player from Belenenses (soccer team from Portugal) went to South Africa ten ago and infected the entire team with the Omicron variant - total of 13 players
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Does this make the RO 100??? lol
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So have they all over reacted.

Are we in for some Marek’s, i guess that stop the issue of the no vac people seeing as they be first to go.


 Quoting: Roughwildfly


Bossche thinks it will be only the people with innate immunity who have *a chance* to survive...

1h 3m 30s:
Unvaxxed immunity will train to improvement.
Vaxed immunity gets worse with time.
You see this already in PHE data.

1h 10m 50s:
"So what we are going to do is, instead of the population exerting selection pressure on the virus, we are going to allow this virus to exert selection pressure on [humans] -- innate immunity of the host"

I believe he's trying to tell us that the virus will select humans based on whether their immune systems are tampered-with or not. Very doomy!

1h 11m 10s
"ONLY THE UNVACCINATED WITH THEIR INNATE IMMUNITY INTACT WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SURVIVE"

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 Quoting: S-man 79715523


Im not going to even try and understand the mechanism behind it.

But i would think it would take a few trys todo that.

Till that happens, the unvac are going to he jn for a world of pain first. Till it shifts to the vac side. Fun times ahead who ever you are.
 Quoting: Roughwildfly


Except the data continues to point to unvaxxed being over represented in hospital and deaths.
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Except the data continues to point to unvaxxed being over represented in hospital and deaths.
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The selection pressure put on the virus to evade the simple mRNA-generated antibodies will favor changes which unpick the lock.

The lower vaccinated fraction in hospital or dying only imples the vaccine is acting as a theraputic, NOT stopping transmission, and this transmission is what enables the "lock-pick" version to succeed.

Leaky vaccines = bad news.
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 Quoting: whitepiedtv


I read them. Someone gave a summary:

Early, incomplete data suggests #OmicronVariant is evading established immune responses in vaxed/previously infected individuals and is not spreading primarily due to a significant jump in transmissibility (R0).

Bassically, he is saying that given vax rate (though not high) and likelihood that everyone has had prior infection, that the rise in cases is less likely to be increased transmisibility but rather the variant evaded immunity from prior infection... all infections.

Or, another way to put it...

We are fucked.
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My first look: its a dumb formula and does not work.
He quotes 'X' when I think he means Rho in tweet #6.

Then he applies the ratio (1-Omega) / Omega
to the Increase in Transmissibility to get the degree of Immune Escape.

Now, "1-Omega" is =0 if Omega is 1.
So his immune escape fraction (1-Omega) / Omega would be zero.
Not logical.

On the other hand, if Omega =0, his immune escape fraction would be 1/0, i.e. infinity.

If Omega =0.1
The Immune escape = (1 - 0.1) / 0.1 = 9

Nine!? The level of immune evasion goes over 1? i.e. over 100%?
Does not make sense to me!

Never trust Biologists with Math! ;)

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I read them. Someone gave a summary:

Early, incomplete data suggests #OmicronVariant is evading established immune responses in vaxed/previously infected individuals and is not spreading primarily due to a significant jump in transmissibility (R0).

Bassically, he is saying that given vax rate (though not high) and likelihood that everyone has had prior infection, that the rise in cases is less likely to be increased transmisibility but rather the variant evaded immunity from prior infection... all infections.

Or, another way to put it...

We are fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65703376


Right, so *if* the increase in prevelance of Omicron is due mostly to immune escape, then the virus may have sacrificed other 'features' to improve its ability to transmit in the vaccinated or previously infected. It may thus be evolving to survive in 'vaccinated world';

Host specificity toward vaccinated?
Hopefully less pathogenic.

I'm rambling here, I am sure d_senti can put me straight!

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Well if this variant is something from the THE STAND panic will be coming worldwide only thing that will save you is in a Government bunker
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 Quoting: whitepiedtv


My first look: its a dumb formula and does not work.
He quotes 'X' when I think he means Rho in tweet #6.

Then he applies the ratio (1-Omega) / Omega
to the Increase in Transmissibility to get the degree of Immune Escape.

Now, "1-Omega" is =0 if Omega is 1.
So his immune escape fraction (1-Omega) / Omega would be zero.
Not logical.

On the other hand, if Omega =0, his immune escape fraction would be 1/0, i.e. infinity.

If Omega =0.1
The Immune escape = (1 - 0.1) / 0.1 = 9

Nine!? The level of immune evasion goes over 1? i.e. over 100%?
Does not make sense to me!

Never trust Biologists with Math! ;)
 Quoting: S-man


Hi S-man, thanks a lot, luckily your mathematic is superb, now I understand now. :)
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I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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UK has gone fill retard mode.

Boostets for all after 3 months

JC-0bhwg
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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UK has gone fill retard mode.

Boostets for all after 3 months

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hiding
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580 people in South Africa's Gauteng province were hospitalized with COVID-19 last week, up 330% from 2 weeks ago

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580 people in South Africa's Gauteng province were hospitalized with COVID-19 last week, up 330% from 2 weeks ago

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