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With all the bleakness here's some positive in the fight against the lab abomination from Walter M. Chestnut's sub stack.


Friday Hope: Bromelain, NAC and Spike Disintegration


A “Missile Defense” Approach: Neutralize Before the Enemy “Hits the Ground”
WALTER M CHESNUT
JAN 20


...In another study, bromelain at a concentration of 100 g/ml was found to be effective in dissolving SARS-COV-2 spikes and envelope proteins. When combined with 20 mg/ml of acetylcysteine, the SARS-COV-2 spike and envelope proteins are fully disintegrated.

An Analysis Based on Molecular Docking and Molecular Dynamics Simulation Study of Bromelain as Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Variants
[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

...What is Bromelain?

Bromelain, the key component of pineapple fruit and roots, is one of many active compounds found in pineapple that possesses therapeutic properties. Bromelain is made up of a variety of proteases, as well as phosphatase, glucosidase, peroxidase, cellulases, and glycoprotein. Minor thiol endopeptidase, ananain, comosain, protease inhibitors, and organically bound calcium are all present in pineapple bromelain.

Dissolving the Spike Protein is also enhanced by combining Bromelain with NAC. ...

What is NAC?

N-acetyl cysteine (NAC), as a nutritional supplement, is a greatly applied antioxidant in vivo and in vitro. NAC is a precursor of L-cysteine that results in glutathione elevation biosynthesis. It acts directly as a scavenger of free radicals, especially oxygen radicals. NAC is a powerful antioxidant. It is also recommended as a potential treatment option for different disorders resulted from generation of free oxygen radicals. ...


hfhf
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Thanks Dosha, I just completed buying the Bromelain (already have NAC), cheers. :-)
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Cheers to you too! I'll be getting some this weekend.
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With all the bleakness here's some positive in the fight against the lab abomination from Walter M. Chestnut's sub stack.


Friday Hope: Bromelain, NAC and Spike Disintegration


A “Missile Defense” Approach: Neutralize Before the Enemy “Hits the Ground”
WALTER M CHESNUT
JAN 20


...In another study, bromelain at a concentration of 100 g/ml was found to be effective in dissolving SARS-COV-2 spikes and envelope proteins. When combined with 20 mg/ml of acetylcysteine, the SARS-COV-2 spike and envelope proteins are fully disintegrated.

An Analysis Based on Molecular Docking and Molecular Dynamics Simulation Study of Bromelain as Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Variants
[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

...What is Bromelain?

Bromelain, the key component of pineapple fruit and roots, is one of many active compounds found in pineapple that possesses therapeutic properties. Bromelain is made up of a variety of proteases, as well as phosphatase, glucosidase, peroxidase, cellulases, and glycoprotein. Minor thiol endopeptidase, ananain, comosain, protease inhibitors, and organically bound calcium are all present in pineapple bromelain.

Dissolving the Spike Protein is also enhanced by combining Bromelain with NAC. ...

What is NAC?

N-acetyl cysteine (NAC), as a nutritional supplement, is a greatly applied antioxidant in vivo and in vitro. NAC is a precursor of L-cysteine that results in glutathione elevation biosynthesis. It acts directly as a scavenger of free radicals, especially oxygen radicals. NAC is a powerful antioxidant. It is also recommended as a potential treatment option for different disorders resulted from generation of free oxygen radicals. ...


hfhf
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Okay, that is very interesting indeed.

Because this...


[link to www.supplementworld.co.za (secure)]
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 84639559


Doom, Dosha,

your two posts prompred me to look at my Quercetin supplement..

Solgar
"Quercetin Complex with Ester-C plus"

[link to www.hollandandbarrett.ie (secure)]

This is the **exact** product that SOS or Bastetcat (I can't remember) recommended and swore it saved their husband from the pneumonia waaaaaay back.

I looked at the lable an lo-and-behold:
Vitamin-C,
Quercetin,
Rose Hips Powder,
Bromelain (50mg)

I already have the NAC so I think that's it sorted!!! :)
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Stumbled upon an interesting thread



I’m prevented from posting clinical data in an unapproved non-workplace environment, but when I say BUCKLE UP….BUCKLE UP!!

Are you referring to preparing for what’s coming re: Kraken/variants? Are things looking bad/worse?






We are seeing it now in sudden deaths and chronic illnesses.
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Stumbled upon an interesting thread



I’m prevented from posting clinical data in an unapproved non-workplace environment, but when I say BUCKLE UP….BUCKLE UP!!

Are you referring to preparing for what’s coming re: Kraken/variants? Are things looking bad/worse?






We are seeing it now in sudden deaths and chronic illnesses.
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If you read her thread she's still pushing the vaxx.
Working on it
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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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What are peoples expectations re excess deaths? To start rising rapidly or gradually, with random spurts depending on time of year and all the many other variables?

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What are peoples expectations re excess deaths? To start rising rapidly or gradually, with random spurts depending on time of year and all the many other variables?
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Rolling surges that stay above 12% but climb to 20-30% above normal as each wave of omicron washes through the vaccinated.
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Stumbled upon an interesting thread



I’m prevented from posting clinical data in an unapproved non-workplace environment, but when I say BUCKLE UP….BUCKLE UP!!

Are you referring to preparing for what’s coming re: Kraken/variants? Are things looking bad/worse?






We are seeing it now in sudden deaths and chronic illnesses.
 Quoting: lightning1977


If you read her thread she's still pushing the vaxx.
 Quoting: 3abzzybee


She is.... and I don't think anyone under the age of 70 should go near them. But the info on variants and the evolution currently being witnessed is unsettling
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PROFESSOR, my thinking is we will see deaths climb as we begin the 4th year of covid. most ppl are starting their 3rd year post vax and many of those aren't taking the boosters. this will lead to a surge in ppl being re-infected.

the propoganda by MSM is pushing for death to b normal at any age. i expect the high deaths to become noticable to the public by late spring and to have an affect on them by fall. b it via shortages, lack of city service workers, deaths of close relatives,etc.

i think by spring,we are due a cpl more merge outbreaks. i think a lot of news is being covered up. as long as MSM doesn't cover it, everything disappears.

that being said, we are in a very slow burn doom. govern's continue finding ways to kick this down the road and delay reality. the average person has no clue at the moment how bad things are. the shortage of workers and cracks in supply chain have little effect on individuals, but they are there and not getting better. for instance, the northeast has not had much snow. how bad the shortage of plow drivers is goes unnoticed.

most ppl have moved on to this is just a flu. they have no clue of the long term damage covid does to ppl. how fast or slow that damage becomes an issue to ones health is still unknown. it will vary but i expect from now to yr 5 ppl will start to realize their health has suffered. with the social distancing and masks wearing, many avoided covid the 1st year. for many, the 3rd year post-infection starts this summer.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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i do plan to dust off the notebook and do an update on where we are this coming week as we end year 3 and begin the 4th year of covid,
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Good thread.



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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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i do plan to dust off the notebook and do an update on where we are this coming week as we end year 3 and begin the 4th year of covid,
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Going to be a rough few years ahead for sure.
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And that future looks a lot like the planets population suffering AIDS



EXPLOSIVE ADMISSION: German Health Minister warns that Covid causes incurable immune defiency...or as we we call it Covid acquired immune deficiency syndrome — CovidAids.
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And all around more signs of collapse and destruction.

I’d missed the Peru meltdown



Among the most striking visuals of Dina Boluarte’s short presidency in Peru. A tank breaking down the gate to the oldest university in the Americas, attempting to quash protests against her that have raged for as many days as she has been president
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With all the bleakness here's some positive in the fight against the lab abomination from Walter M. Chestnut's sub stack.


Friday Hope: Bromelain, NAC and Spike Disintegration


A “Missile Defense” Approach: Neutralize Before the Enemy “Hits the Ground”
WALTER M CHESNUT
JAN 20


...In another study, bromelain at a concentration of 100 g/ml was found to be effective in dissolving SARS-COV-2 spikes and envelope proteins. When combined with 20 mg/ml of acetylcysteine, the SARS-COV-2 spike and envelope proteins are fully disintegrated.

An Analysis Based on Molecular Docking and Molecular Dynamics Simulation Study of Bromelain as Anti-SARS-CoV-2 Variants
[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

...What is Bromelain?

Bromelain, the key component of pineapple fruit and roots, is one of many active compounds found in pineapple that possesses therapeutic properties. Bromelain is made up of a variety of proteases, as well as phosphatase, glucosidase, peroxidase, cellulases, and glycoprotein. Minor thiol endopeptidase, ananain, comosain, protease inhibitors, and organically bound calcium are all present in pineapple bromelain.

Dissolving the Spike Protein is also enhanced by combining Bromelain with NAC. ...

What is NAC?

N-acetyl cysteine (NAC), as a nutritional supplement, is a greatly applied antioxidant in vivo and in vitro. NAC is a precursor of L-cysteine that results in glutathione elevation biosynthesis. It acts directly as a scavenger of free radicals, especially oxygen radicals. NAC is a powerful antioxidant. It is also recommended as a potential treatment option for different disorders resulted from generation of free oxygen radicals. ...


hfhf
 Quoting: Dosha



Okay, that is very interesting indeed.

Because this...


[link to www.supplementworld.co.za (secure)]
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 84639559


Doom, Dosha,

your two posts prompred me to look at my Quercetin supplement..

Solgar
"Quercetin Complex with Ester-C plus"

[link to www.hollandandbarrett.ie (secure)]

This is the **exact** product that SOS or Bastetcat (I can't remember) recommended and swore it saved their husband from the pneumonia waaaaaay back.

I looked at the lable an lo-and-behold:
Vitamin-C,
Quercetin,
Rose Hips Powder,
Bromelain (50mg)

I already have the NAC so I think that's it sorted!!! :)
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Thanks very much - again:-)
It’s a question of methods. Everybody wants results, but nobody wants to do what they have to do to get them done.
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And that future looks a lot like the planets population suffering AIDS



EXPLOSIVE ADMISSION: German Health Minister warns that Covid causes incurable immune defiency...or as we we call it Covid acquired immune deficiency syndrome — CovidAids.
 Quoting: lightning1977


I believe that is likely reserved for the multiple vaxxed as their immunity is possibly permanently adversely impacted by changes in the adaptive immune system.

Van Der Bossche and others warned of this very early on.
Working on it
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PROFESSOR, my thinking is we will see deaths climb as we begin the 4th year of covid. most ppl are starting their 3rd year post vax and many of those aren't taking the boosters. this will lead to a surge in ppl being re-infected.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


JAZZ, this statement concerns me.

Did you see this study of 51,000 employees at Cleveland Clinic? As they are all working-age, in employment, and likely recieving similar exposure, it is also not significantly age-confounded either..

The dose-dependence is clear to see!
Moar vax = moar symptomatic covid.

Preprint (figure 2): [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

^This^ is not the only study. We saw it with our own eyes -and I made the plots from HSA data- (until they stopped publishing it, hmm!) The more doses people got, there was a surge in infections&disease in that group that built up rapidly, and lasted approx. 6-8 months.

Who knows how long the surge will last, or even if it will return to baseline after 4,5,or more shots? :(

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And that future looks a lot like the planets population suffering AIDS



EXPLOSIVE ADMISSION: German Health Minister warns that Covid causes incurable immune defiency...or as we we call it Covid acquired immune deficiency syndrome — CovidAids.
 Quoting: lightning1977



Wu Flu bat aids.


As we said all along. Then the vaccines were rolled out and cemented the people's fates.
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I see till can’t get my head around why this guy can’t think the mRNA jab couldn’t be part of this ….





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i do plan to dust off the notebook and do an update on where we are this coming week as we end year 3 and begin the 4th year of covid,
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Going to be a rough few years ahead for sure.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 82475718


So UD how bad will it get????
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Infectious diseases experts are warning that almost all available antiviral medications are increasingly ineffective against the “soup” of Omicron descendants now circulating in Australia.
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i do plan to dust off the notebook and do an update on where we are this coming week as we end year 3 and begin the 4th year of covid,
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Going to be a rough few years ahead for sure.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 82475718


So UD how bad will it get????
 Quoting: ParamedicUK



Okay - So *IF* the world sits back, offers up a me culpa, and hits the entire globe for 14 months with IVM and HCQ? We can say that inside the next 7 years we will lose another 8 to 10% of the worlds population.


*IF* the gene theraputic agents are repeatedly given in an endless spiral?

By 2030 there will be around 1 to 1.5 billion people left.

And I am not kidding. With age, illness, sterility of the young?

It is an ELE unfolding.
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Infectious diseases experts are warning that almost all available antiviral medications are increasingly ineffective against the “soup” of Omicron descendants now circulating in Australia.
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IVM still has 9 of 11 pathways covered.

HCQ had omicron smashed down via 8 of 8 pathways.
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PROFESSOR, my thinking is we will see deaths climb as we begin the 4th year of covid. most ppl are starting their 3rd year post vax and many of those aren't taking the boosters. this will lead to a surge in ppl being re-infected.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


JAZZ, this statement concerns me.

Did you see this study of 51,000 employees at Cleveland Clinic? As they are all working-age, in employment, and likely recieving similar exposure, it is also not significantly age-confounded either..

The dose-dependence is clear to see!
Moar vax = moar symptomatic covid.

Preprint (figure 2): [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

^This^ is not the only study. We saw it with our own eyes -and I made the plots from HSA data- (until they stopped publishing it, hmm!) The more doses people got, there was a surge in infections&disease in that group that built up rapidly, and lasted approx. 6-8 months.

Who knows how long the surge will last, or even if it will return to baseline after 4,5,or more shots? :(
 Quoting: S-man


bad wording on my part. i don't think vax of any kind will help with/without boosters. the ppl who took the 1st doses of vax think they are immune and covid is just a flu. so leading to more exposures and infections.

what we don't know is what will happen to those ppl who took the vax in the early stages of the Great Experiment or how they will fair as their vax wears off. it goes without saying that they can b infected, but how much damage was done to their immune systems with just 2 shots?

we have several issues in play at once. wearing off of original shots- many of these ppl took the shots 2 yrs ago but have not taking more shots since. and we have ppl with multiple re-infections.
-----------------------------------------------

i'm in a weird camp of my own. i think covid did mutate down as the wave spread east to west across the US. actually from the time it spread out from CHINA to ITALY and thereafter. that's not to say it is benign by any means. but the effects aren't immediate. those infected ppl are damaged and have ongoing health issues that can creep up on them. these u see with excess deaths. explained away due to rising heart related deaths or other diseases.

since covid is a bio-lab created , it can mutate right back up to b deadly. it may do this tomorrow or might wait a decade. therein lies the million dollar question of when.

plus we have merges as covid was still in development when it escaped the lab. it combines easily with other viruses. thou most merges die out on their own, i do think bad merges will go global. we have seen a few already.

not all vaxes were the same. it was an experiment to find a true vaccine. of course, the 1 that worked won't b shared with the public. and anyone who did get a good vax, will need a booster to counter it. makes things complex as the effects we see will vary a lot.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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not all vaxes were the same. it was an experiment to find a true vaccine. of course, the 1 that worked won't b shared with the public.
 Quoting: JAZZz50



Point 1: No, not at all. The prion generation alone shows this is 100% wrong.

They are binary weapons. Phase 1 was lay the seeds. Phase 2, water the garden. Phase 3 is the reaping what was sown.

The only thing so far that has a 98%+ success rate is blood ozone therapy.

That is it.

Seriously bad part of that is if you get infected and the proteins start unfolding? You have hours, literally, to get into treatment.

You would have to have a unit and medical team on standby 24/7


This is why the elites are so fucking scared - yes they brought IVM and HCQ in the hundreds of tonnes. Yes they have blood ozone therapy, but nothing bar nothing prevents or cures prions.

Nothing. Ever.
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Point 2? I 100% agree with.


The 'cure' will never, ever ever be made public.


That aside? There was a massive, massive push to genetically modify and alter mankind in a permanent fashion - and THAT should be scaring the ever living fuck out of people.

A world of people free of ANY innate immune system...
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"After daily administration of Bromelain of up to 750 mg/kg in dogs, no toxicity was found
after six months. The lethal dose (LD50) of bromelain is greater than 10000 mg/kg in mice.
No carcinogenic or teratogenic effects were observed in rats with dosages of 1500
"


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

You can eat spoonfulls of that stuff. Very handy as the effect is dose-dependent.
Not like Quercitin, which is mutagenic and has an LD50 of 160mg/kg ...
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Lc suffering doctor reporting in. Wanted to respond to the gentleman I believe it was doom who insisted I get raw Amish milk. Well have 4 quarts enroute. Also does anybody have an idea if mms or methylene blue is something I should invest in. My main remaining syntoms after 15 months are neuro based. Waxing and waning neuralgia mental duress felt as electric brain sensations and emotinal releases.
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Lc suffering doctor reporting in. Wanted to respond to the gentleman I believe it was doom who insisted I get raw Amish milk. Well have 4 quarts enroute. Also does anybody have an idea if mms or methylene blue is something I should invest in. My main remaining syntoms after 15 months are neuro based. Waxing and waning neuralgia mental duress felt as electric brain sensations and emotinal releases.
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Excellent news on the milk.


You really got put through the fucking mill and then some.
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Lc suffering doctor reporting in. Wanted to respond to the gentleman I believe it was doom who insisted I get raw Amish milk. Well have 4 quarts enroute. Also does anybody have an idea if mms or methylene blue is something I should invest in. My main remaining syntoms after 15 months are neuro based. Waxing and waning neuralgia mental duress felt as electric brain sensations and emotinal releases.
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Guanfacine and N-acetylcysteine


I have a novelist friend in the US of A who suffered as you are.

Her MD set her on Guanfacine / NAC and she is well enough mentally to now do 3, 4 thousand words a day where as she was at 50, 100 words.





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