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I was a victim of child psychological experimentation in the 80's and 90's

 
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
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My heart hurts for you OP. This kind of thing we never ever used to hear about, up till now, and it makes my head swim in misery.

I feel so happy that my parents were extremely and I do mean severely protective. They never left us with anyone, ever! We were always under their watchful eye. I could never leave the yard or cross the street. Albeit, at the time it pissed me off!

My dad was offered money to let me go to Hollywood to be in a movie in 1959 and he said HELL NO, told those people to never contact us again. I was going to be the next Natalie Woods, they told me. I had good parents.

Not sure how your parents work into this, but remember, God never gives you more than you can handle, and you’re here for a reason. You have a job to do to help others. Now you know what that reason is.

Do it! Get it right, get it done. And thank you ahead of time.

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Not sure qhy my fucking reply got fucking deleted


But OP.

any way to contact you in regards to this matter?

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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
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No I got plenty of those, to a point I have had part of my skull removed, I just left that part out, intentionally, cuz its too much to share...but thanks for bringing it up.
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
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No I got plenty of those, to a point I have had part of my skull removed, I just left that part out, intentionally, cuz its too much to share...but thanks for bringing it up.
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That's different - a brain injury is a REAL problem, a lot bigger than having your pee pee touched
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your story is a bit of a nightmare. i guess keep reminding yourself that none of this was your fault. i think you have a potential book or docu-style movie on the cusp.

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I am so, so very sad to hear this my friend.

Keep talking.
You need to work through this.
I am listening.
There are others here who have very similar memories.

You did nothing wrong.

Justice will be served eventually.
The Lord does not look upon child molesters fondly.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
I send you my unconditional love.
rose
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Amen. This is the way to be supportive.
God bless and heal you.
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That was Not a psychological experimentation.
If this happened, it was probably a cult just trying to hide their perversion with a simple pretext to keep silence…
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western society is run by a rainbow mafia snake witch cult full of lesbian baby murdrers and demonic sodomite pedo tyrant fascist enforcers whose daily occupation is policing the doublespeak mental prison clown world matrix control grid
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Statue of limitations begins after discovery of new facts associated with the claim.

So for example if you turned up a contract from the CIA for the research the statute begins tolling upon the discovery of new facts.

Some states give specific leeway to the statute for child abuse, New York for example re priest molestations.

You file a federal civil rights lawsuit, any reasonable claim opens the door to discovery, subpoenas for documents, etc..

Generally 42 US Code Section 1983.
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good info to share with op and others. the justice system needs to help people not fleece people. you shouldn't have to be wealthy to have competent attorneys on your side to get justice.
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western society is run by a rainbow mafia snake witch cult full of lesbian baby murdrers and demonic sodomite pedo tyrant fascist enforcers whose daily occupation is policing the doublespeak mental prison clown world matrix control grid
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funny and 99% have no clue because they are sheep who fall for emotional manipulation, like dogs and children, given little treats and praise for being good little minion

even now as their handlers are shooting them with their own dead childrens' cells and starving them out

epiclol
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72253329


No I got plenty of those, to a point I have had part of my skull removed, I just left that part out, intentionally, cuz its too much to share...but thanks for bringing it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80855589


That's different - a brain injury is a REAL problem, a lot bigger than having your pee pee touched
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fuck off bitch
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So you've hunted all those people down and made them pay.

Taken all this stuff public and sued the shit out of everyone.

No? You did nothing? pffft. BORING!
this movie sucks there's no ending. NEXT!
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I speak for all the children who received head injuries, dismemberment, became blind, deaf, or paraplegic, when i say that getting your pee pee touched is the worse thing that can happen to a kid at the hands of another. Yeah, sure
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fuck off
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I am so, so very sad to hear this my friend.

Keep talking.
You need to work through this.
I am listening.
There are others here who have very similar memories.

You did nothing wrong.

Justice will be served eventually.
The Lord does not look upon child molesters fondly.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
I send you my unconditional love.
rose
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Amen. This is the way to be supportive.
God bless and heal you.
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Thank you. rose
I pray for the healing of all whom are in need of healing in any way.

I’m not a victim of this kind of abuse myself.
I am very grateful for that.
I was just lending my support and stating that our friend is not alone.
I have seen many threads like this over the years.

I’m here to listen, support, and help in anyway that I can.

grouphug
Triteia
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If I was your parent and found out what they did to I would have put a bullet in their heads.
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Thank you for sharing your story. Talking about it is good therapy!
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After being sexually assaulted by my neighbor in 1987 I was then sexually assaulted by my first grade teacher the same year, her name was Mrs. Hill, teacher at Jackson elementary in Everett, Washington.

After the sexual assault I flipped out on her and attacked her in class some weeks after the assault.
She was able to convince everyone that I was retarded (her words) and I was sent to the special Ed program at another school.

My second grade teacher was a sadist, her name was Mrs. Green. Lowell elementary in Everett, Washington. She liked to antagonize us into outbursts and then restrain us by ripping us out of our chairs and slamming our backs onto the floor and pressing on our chest with her knee. She would laugh at us as our faces turned red.

The effects of this caused them to diagnose me as emotionally disturbed and I was sent to Luther Child Center/day treatment (now owned by compass health) and this is where the real horror began.

They would do different experiments on us to see how we react. They would take us on field trips and expose us to different situations to see how we responded.
I recall once being led down a path with a group of other Children where we view a man sitting naked on a bench with his clothing neatly folded beside him and reading a news paper.

Other experiments would involve sex play with the staff, including actual intercourse with a female staff member.
We were told individually that we weren't allowed to discuss our therapy, but kids talk and you could tell with the girls what had happened even if they refused to tell.

Sometimes they would lock us in closets. Sometimes we would be beaten.
All of it was regarded as therapy.

Of the few kids I stayed friends with all but one died through self destruction while we were teenagers. My last friend died at 27 because of drug abuse.

I have been told that because the statute of limitations has expired that I can't sue so I will never see justice.
So instead I have decided to begin talking about my experiences both to tell the story so that people know, but also because I now realize that I'm still suffering from what happened to me as a kid and I'm trying to come to terms with it.

My childhood was a long series of horrors and it destroyed me in many ways that I'm just now beginning to understand.
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'Green'....as I have said before, beware of this color name, along with 'red.' Examples: Dr. Green, Greenwald, Greenspan, Greenberg, Redstone, Redford, and variations with an umlaut over the vowel such as Rödenberg, Rödensten, Grönberg, etc. You can look up the characters with these names, what positions they hold, and follow this with Mk-Ultra research in how they use colors in their brainwashing techniques to create alternate personalities in their victims.
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Wow that's awful. So sorry.
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I don’t think there’s a statute of limitation on some of this; find a better lawyer and God bless you.
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72253329


No I got plenty of those, to a point I have had part of my skull removed, I just left that part out, intentionally, cuz its too much to share...but thanks for bringing it up.
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This hurts my heart so much.
I’m so very sorry.
I am listening and I hear you.
Keep talking.
Keep healing.
Keep Living.

You are loved very much.
I send you unconditional love.
hugs
Triteia
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This is sad and it happened a lot back then. You’re not alone. Many children have been imprisoned and tortured at sadistic and experimental institutions under the guise of “schools”. It happened at a school in Massachusetts called Judge Rosenberg Center. Just Google it and you can read about horrific stories similar to yours. This school in particular has prompted the outrage over electroshock therapy still being used as a behavioral treatment. There are also many stories of food being withheld as a way of “training” children to behave and rewards given based on good behavior and abuse and neglect for bad behavior.

It’s really quite sick. It seems there are a lot depraved adults who get off on this sort of thing. Just remember: it was never your fault. You never did anything to deserve any of it. You were unfortunately a victim of a dysfunctional and damaged system. Accept that as your truth and do everything you can to overcome it. You are not defined by what happened but rather how you choose to handle it. You’re worthy of a great life. Good luck, OP.
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Now you are the subject of psychological intimidation and experimentation by Fauci, the CDC, the WHO, The FDA etc etc.
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Sorry to hear what you went through.
I was subjected to a "therapeutic reform" school in the 80's. Now closed because of a multitude of illegal and abusive practices. The type of therapies they used there are illegal now but there are programs still using the remnants of it. By the time I broke my programming and realized and affirmed with other who attended the abuse my statute of limitations was over too.
It was an experiment to re-educate us into who they told us we should be. None of the kids were bad kids prior to being sent there. All of the families they came from had a lot of money. Many kids from famous families and political families. An example is the grandson of Margaret Singer and ambassadors children. It was indeed partially funded by a CIA program. I don't want to hijack your thread so I won't go into the types of abuse. Basically the experiment focused on controlling by means very similar to what you see occuring with covid and the media pitting people against eachother to control. They took slightly rebellious teens and tried to change their personality and control them by conning them into controlling eachother. There was also a focus on scaring the he'll out of us if we didn't comply. Comply or the other choice is far worse. Lots of isolation techniques and shaming and demoralizing tacktics.
---Thorbulla
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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The children given head injuries grieve for you - wanna cookie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72253329


No I got plenty of those, to a point I have had part of my skull removed, I just left that part out, intentionally, cuz its too much to share...but thanks for bringing it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80855589


This hurts my heart so much.
I’m so very sorry.
I am listening and I hear you.
Keep talking.
Keep healing.
Keep Living.

You are loved very much.
I send you unconditional love.
hugs
 Quoting: Triteia


The help I need is in telling my story.
When I talk about it or write about it a feeling of anxiety washes over me like I'm going to be in trouble.

The word comply or compliance are trigger words for me. A lot of the abuse I suffered was geared to gain my compliance with other abuse.

"This is the consequence for your refusal to comply" that word comply was the root word for so much horror for me.
Refusing to have sex with the counselor was Refusing to comply with therapy.
That would get you locked in a tile walled closet or if you tried to fight, restrained in painful submission holds that made you feel like your arm would pop out of socket or would crush the air out of your lungs.
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Sorry to hear what you went through.
I was subjected to a "therapeutic reform" school in the 80's. Now closed because of a multitude of illegal and abusive practices. The type of therapies they used there are illegal now but there are programs still using the remnants of it. By the time I broke my programming and realized and affirmed with other who attended the abuse my statute of limitations was over too.
It was an experiment to re-educate us into who they told us we should be. None of the kids were bad kids prior to being sent there. All of the families they came from had a lot of money. Many kids from famous families and political families. An example is the grandson of Margaret Singer and ambassadors children. It was indeed partially funded by a CIA program. I don't want to hijack your thread so I won't go into the types of abuse. Basically the experiment focused on controlling by means very similar to what you see occuring with covid and the media pitting people against eachother to control. They took slightly rebellious teens and tried to change their personality and control them by conning them into controlling eachother. There was also a focus on scaring the he'll out of us if we didn't comply. Comply or the other choice is far worse. Lots of isolation techniques and shaming and demoralizing tacktics.
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All of the kids in my experience came from poverty and broken homes. We were the throwaway kids that no one cared about.
Some of us were because of disabilities unable to speak, while others were extremely intelligent.

They had different experiments for different kids. The smartest kids were the ones who were beaten, raped and trained to comply.
Some kids never had that happen. Some of them were always treated kindly. It seems that the more disabled a kid was, the less horror they went through.
It was the kids who tried to resist who got the worst of it.
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Re: I was a victim of child psychological experimentation in the 80's and 90's
MANDELA EFFECT, none of it happened

OP is full of shit and a known attention whore
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I was abused by my Mother's friends husband as a 7 or 8 year old child.

Then abused by middle school athletes in early teens and the school would do nothing.

I began getting phone calls at home (on a landline) from one a MUCH older male who knew me from school, knew personal stuff, would say super sick shit to me on the phone, I never told my parents and so never learned who he was. But he threatened me like you wouldn't believe to the point I was afraid to leave my house.

Btw. I was in a segregated program for 'gifted students' that they used to give us in the 70's that once you tested into it, you were pretty much starred for the rest of your education and kept separated from 'other students' and they were all told basically how much smarter you were than them, therefore, you got a lot of hate back.

Buried all this mentally until I had a TIA that unlocked my childhood like it happened yesterday. Why I could not recall a lot of this before I think is a mix of things, but I still can't recall the outings and things I did with the other kids in this group, except for one fossil dig.

Needless to say, I'm 53 and in therapy. 2 of these people are likely dead, maybe more. I'll Keep Going. Fuck them.
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Very similar experience with TIA! Unlocked all kinds of forgotten trauma.
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The catalyst for all of my experiences was Mrs. Hill and what she did.
It's possible she had done this many times before, but I was the only kid who reacted with violence.

I tried to tell a police officer who came to my school. I told him that I didn't like it when Mrs. Hill poked me. He laughed.

Then after I lost my shit in class, some women in the office asked why I did what I did? And I tried to tell her and nothing came of it.

When Mrs. Green was beating the shit out of another boy shortly into Second grade I ran out of class to the office and tried to tell about it.

I was called a liar and I was in trouble for leaving class without permission. I learned that no one cared and that no one would help and I stopped trying to tell anyone because no one believed me anyway.
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I believe you Op, the Seattle area was a very spooky place in the 70’s/80’s/90’s. I will send you positive healing energy. hf





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